CRAWFORD just offered KHAN PPV title fight-

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do we think he will take the fight ? $5 million guarantee + PPV upside !
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Interesting, but not what we all want.
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I'd be fine with this instead of collazo.
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Indeed!
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Sucks that all the big names we want to see Crawford tangle with at 147 are all under a different promotional banner meaning we'll probably never get to see all the fights we all want to see him in.

Either that or we won't see them until they're well past their sell by date.
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amir will be brutalized if it happens
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ironbeard wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 17:14Indeed!
Looks like bud rejected Luis.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:08
ironbeard wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 17:14Indeed!
Looks like bud rejected Luis.
Luis has agreed the terms. Crawford hasn’t signed yet. I think he just wants to keep his options open.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:12
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:08
ironbeard wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 17:14Indeed!
Looks like bud rejected Luis.
Luis has agreed the terms. Crawford hasn’t signed yet. I think he just wants to keep his options open.
He obviously told Bob to get him something better.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 19:46
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:12
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:08

Looks like bud rejected Luis.
Luis has agreed the terms. Crawford hasn’t signed yet. I think he just wants to keep his options open.
He obviously told Bob to get him something better.
TC wants some PPV money. Mind you he earned over $3m his last fight. Wilder and Fury were guaranteed $4m and $3m respectively for their PPV. Obviously will make much more though.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:08
ironbeard wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 17:14Indeed!
Looks like bud rejected Luis.
That would be great news. Bud’s no longer a kid. He should not be wasting time with journeymen.
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ironbeard wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 23:17
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:08
ironbeard wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 17:14Indeed!
Looks like bud rejected Luis.
That would be great news. Bud’s no longer a kid. He should not be wasting time with journeymen.
Journeymen is a little harsh, I'd say Collazo is at least what you'd call a "fringe contender", but I get your point. It's not a meaningful fight for Crawford, and wouldn't advance his career one bit. No reason to keep fighting stay busy fights, when that's essentially all he's been fighting anyway.
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Khan's just a journeyman these days.

It's a better fight to sell than Collazo though
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I'm not remotely interested in seeing Crawford fight Khan never mind on PPV.
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ewenhay wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 03:56 Khan's just a journeyman these days.

It's a better fight to sell than Collazo though
Khan is no journeyman. FFS, this site throws that term around too much.
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No he isn't but neither do I regard him as a legitimate threat to the elite of the Welterweight division.
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candyslim wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 04:52 No he isn't but neither do I regard him as a legitimate threat to the elite of the Welterweight division.
I wouldn't call him a legit threat either. He's not the biggest WW. He can surely box. He's definitely a world level contender.
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Welterweight is one of the most talent stacked division in boxing and despite that, division sucks ....
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This is a weird situation! :-?

Amir Khan is advised by Al Haymon, and the scope of his scope of influence over the Brit’s career relates exclusively to bouts staged in the US.

Haymon is also the head honcho of the PBC, which is the primary boxing content provider for Fox & Showtime.

Terence Crawford is promoted by Top Rank, which is the primary boxing content provider for ESPN.

Amir Khan is promoted by Eddie Hearn, with Matchroom being the primary boxing content provider for Sky & DAZN.

DAZN, Fox-Showtime and ESPN are TV network rivals in the US and if Khan faces Crawford, it’ll inevitably be staged on American shores and televised by ESPN, since the offer came from Top Rank.

As recently as three weeks ago, Eddie Hearn confirmed that fresh talks were being held to stage a bout between Kell Brook and Khan, but yesterday the news broke of the offer from Top Rank for Amir to face Terence Crawford instead.

Could Amir Khan be using Bob Arum’s offer as a negotiating tactic to force Matchroom to improve the terms they offered for the Kell Brook fight, because I have no doubt that 'King Khan' will inevitably opt to accept the biggest payday provided by the highest-bidder?

The thing is… if Khan does face Terence Crawford and subsequently loses, the Kell Brook fight will probably still be there.

Put it this way, both men would have recently lost to one of the top-two ranked middleweight champions and also one the top-two ranked welterweight champions in quick succession.

This would be more of a “Battle of Britain” type affair and would still be “big” enough, commercially, to warrant headlining a Sky Sports PPV event in the UK towards the end of 2019 (assuming Khan loses to Crawford beforehand).
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Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 06:47
Amir Khan is advised by Al Haymon, and the scope of his scope of influence over the Brit’s career relates exclusively to bouts staged in the US.
He just advises him though. It's not really a big issue. Khan isn't exclusive to Fox/Showtime. Sky would likely get the fight in the UK. However, Boxination usually show TR cards here.. Also, depending on Khan's contract withMatchroom.. Who knows what's in the terms. The event would be promoted by TR anyway. There was no issues with this when Khan fought Canelo on HBO.
Haymon is also the head honcho of the PBC, which is the primary boxing content provider for Fox & Showtime.

Terence Crawford is promoted by Top Rank, which is the primary boxing content provider for ESPN.

Amir Khan is promoted by Eddie Hearn, with Matchroom being the primary boxing content provider for Sky & DAZN.
Based on past similar deals/fights in the past, the fight would take place on ESPN in the US and Sky would likely have the rights in the UK.. IF Matchroom decide to co-promote, which they would as it's a big fight.

DAZN, Fox-Showtime and ESPN are TV network rivals in the US and if Khan faces Crawford, it’ll inevitably be staged on American shores and televised by ESPN, since the offer came from Top Rank.
Definitely.
As recently as three weeks ago, Eddie Hearn confirmed that fresh talks were being held to stage a bout between Kell Brook and Khan, but yesterday the news broke of the offer from Top Rank for Amir to face Terence Crawford instead.
Looked like things were going in the right direction, but nothing can really be done til after this weekend when Brook fights.
Could Amir Khan be using Bob Arum’s offer as a negotiating tactic to force Matchroom to improve the terms they offered for the Kell Brook fight, because I have no doubt that 'King Khan' will inevitably opt to accept the biggest payday provided by the highest-bidder?
$5m guaranteed in £ sterling is probably around the same guarantee he'll get against Brook before ppv revenue. He can inordinately use is to his advantage.
The thing is… if Khan does face Terence Crawford and subsequently loses, the Kell Brook fight will probably still be there.
The Brook fight is always gonna be there. Khan hasn't chased Brook, Brook has always chased Khan. Khan is basically Brook's only big-money fight. Brook isn't making that kind of money against anyone else at the moment and he see's Khan as an easy fight.

Khan knows, even if he loses, he'd have made good money, he get's to challenge for his first WW title in the process and Brook will STILL be calling him out. Khan would rather lose to Crawford and make good money than lost to Brook and make good money.. Because, even though it's past it's date, Khan vs. Brook still makes money.
This would be more of a “Battle of Britain” type affair and would still be “big” enough, commercially, to warrant headlining a Sky Sports PPV event in the UK towards the end of 2019 (assuming Khan loses to Crawford beforehand).
As I stated above. We agree on that. :TU:
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Pointless in terms of competition. Well, Khan can look decent early, but the guy with the skillset of Crawford will deliver a KO punch to Khan's glass jaw pretty quick.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 07:51As I stated above. We agree on that. :TU:
I think we agree on pretty much everything in relation to this matter. :TU:
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DrDuke wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 12:38 Pointless in terms of competition. Well, Khan can look decent early, but the guy with the skillset of Crawford will deliver a KO punch to Khan's glass jaw pretty quick.
That's actually how I see it. I think Khan will look fantastic early and then probably get stopped. People seem to forget Crawford/Dulorme. Dulorme was doing very good with his speed until his awful chin got tagged. Also, Gamboa was giving Crawford issues early.

It's a fight Crawford can't lose because he's facing another chinny, fast guy, but I think Khan will make him look bad for a while. I'm actually pretty hyped. I think Khan is probably Crawford's best/toughest opponent so far, which is a testament to his awful resume.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 21:37
DrDuke wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 12:38 Pointless in terms of competition. Well, Khan can look decent early, but the guy with the skillset of Crawford will deliver a KO punch to Khan's glass jaw pretty quick.
That's actually how I see it. I think Khan will look fantastic early and then probably get stopped. People seem to forget Crawford/Dulorme. Dulorme was doing very good with his speed until his awful chin got tagged. Also, Gamboa was giving Crawford issues early.

It's a fight Crawford can't lose because he's facing another chinny, fast guy, but I think Khan will make him look bad for a while. I'm actually pretty hyped. I think Khan is probably Crawford's best/toughest opponent so far, which is a testament to his awful resume.
Although Khan will be his best opponent only in the terms of the name.
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I’m not convinced that Khan could get by Horn, at this point.
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