DEONTAY WILDER VS. TYSON FURY TRACKING AT OVER 300,00 PAY-PER-VIEW BUYS

[bigman1968]

https://www.ringtv.com/549226-deontay-w ... view-buys/

The forum's prediction was

[Evander]

PPV was way too expensive.
Didn't buy it haven't seen it and they remain in the positions they were previous to the fight.
It wasn't that big that they can't leak the fight to everyone.

[bigman1968]

PPV was way too expensive.
Didn't buy it haven't seen it and they remain in the positions they were previous to the fight.
It wasn't that big that they can't leak the fight to everyone.

In Israel it was on channel that can be rented for 12 sheqels/day....less than 4 usd

[Enlightened-One]

Here's the prediction I made on the 29th October (in a separate thread) about the amount of PPV buys the Wilder-Fury event would achieve:

Tyson Fury has done an excellent job of selling himself to the US market and I am becoming increasingly convinced that his bout against Deontay Wilder will achieve in the region of 350K to 400K PPV buys in the US.

The Brit might have even more fans in attendance at the Staples Centre than ‘The Bronze Bomber’.

This event will likely achieve far in excess of one million buys if we combined the total units of PPV buys sold in both the UK and the US, which means it’ll be considered a huge commercial success.

It appears that what I've said is on track to come to fruition - it might do in the region of 350K.

[Ruthless-RKO]

17,000 in attendance.. Over 300,000 for first time US PPV.. (both of them)..

Not bad at all..

It was never gonna do over 1 million.

I know a lot of Brit's stayed up and probably paid for the BT PPV.. So yeah, like EO said above, combined, it might just have cracked 1 million.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Both Ward-Kovalev PPV's combined did 290k buys. That was horribly marketed.

Wilder-Fury was built much better. Needed 250k to break even and it's done around 320k.

[bigman1968]

17,000 in attendance.. Over 300,000 for first time US PPV.. (both of them)..

Not bad at all..

It was never gonna do over 1 million.

I know a lot of Brit's stayed up and probably paid for the BT PPV.. So yeah, like EO said above, combined, it might just have cracked 1 million.

700,000 ppv sold in UK? Hard to believe

[Boxing Prospect]

No way it did 700k in the UK

[bigman1968]

No way it did 700k in the UK

It was at 5 AM! No more than 30,000-50,000 of hardcore boxing fans.

[jamamb]

320k seems solid, though far way off hws being back in the us as the biggest stars

[Ruthless-RKO]

320k seems solid, though far way off hws being back in the us as the biggest stars

Because there aren't any big HW names in the US.. After Wilder, who is it? Miller? Breazeale? Szpilka? Kownacki?

Shannon Briggs is more known that those guys.

[Enlightened-One]

320k seems solid, though far way off hws being back in the us as the biggest stars

Because there aren't any big HW names in the US.. After Wilder, who is it? Miller? Breazeale? Szpilka? Kownacki?

Shannon Briggs is more known that those guys.

I agree.

The American domination of the heavyweight division essentially ceased from the year 2000. And I’d argue that from 2002 onwards, which equates to last seventeen years, there weren’t any US heavyweights attracting sizable TV audience figures.

From 2007 onwards, it’s rare to find more than one American listed amongst The RING’s annual top-ten heavyweight ratings.

Today, only Deontay Wilder and Jarrell Miller were actually born and raised in the US, with neither man attracting big audience figures or having headlined a PPV event prior to last weekend.

[Ruthless-RKO]

320k seems solid, though far way off hws being back in the us as the biggest stars

Because there aren't any big HW names in the US.. After Wilder, who is it? Miller? Breazeale? Szpilka? Kownacki?

Shannon Briggs is more known that those guys.

I agree. :

Most big/tall American athletes, that weight over 200 pounds.. You'll find them taking up other sports such as Basketball. Am I correct?

Wilder himself started out with Basketball I think.. It's a less risk sport..

[bigman1968]

Because there aren't any big HW names in the US.. After Wilder, who is it? Miller? Breazeale? Szpilka? Kownacki?

Shannon Briggs is more known that those guys.

I agree. :

Most big/tall American athletes, that weight over 200 pounds.. You'll find them taking up other sports such as Basketball. Am I correct?

Wilder himself started out with Basketball I think.. It's a less risk sport..

Less risk, much more money on the table and huge benefit of NCAA programs, at "amateur" level!
Same at football and, (the NCAA part) wresling!

[Ruthless-RKO]

Less risk, much more money on the table and huge benefit of NCAA programs, at "amateur" level!
Same at football and, (the NCAA part) wresling!

Who would you say was the best US heavyweight from 2000-2009?

One who at least competed at HW for over 5 years ..

[bigman1968]

Less risk, much more money on the table and huge benefit of NCAA programs, at "amateur" level!
Same at football and, (the NCAA part) wresling!

Who would you say was the best US heavyweight from 2000-2009?

One who at least competed at HW for over 5 years ..

Hard to name even one

[bigman1968]

Less risk, much more money on the table and huge benefit of NCAA programs, at "amateur" level!
Same at football and, (the NCAA part) wresling!

Who would you say was the best US heavyweight from 2000-2009?

One who at least competed at HW for over 5 years ..

And in UK they have only soccer...and tall big guys mostly are not good for soccer-)

[Ruthless-RKO]

Hard to name even one

Some candidates:

Evander Holyfield (retired in 2011)
Mike Tyson (retired in 2005)
Chris Byrd (retired in 2009)
John Ruiz (retired in 2010)
Hasim Rahman (retired in 2014)
Shannon Briggs (Last active in 2016)

Roy Jones might have achieved the most.

Best names I could think off, even then, most have their success in the 1990's and were past prime in 2000's.

Byrd probably achieved the most from the above, along with Rahman, with his Lewis win. But these were more of one hit wonders.

[Enlightened-One]

Hard to name even one

Some candidates:

Evander Holyfield (retired in 2011)
Mike Tyson (retired in 2005)
Chris Byrd (retired in 2009)
John Ruiz (retired in 2010)
Hasim Rahman (retired in 2014)
Shannon Briggs (Last active in 2016)

Roy Jones might have achieved the most.

Best names I could think off, even then, most have their success in the 1990's and were past prime in 2000's.

Byrd probably achieved the most from the above, along with Rahman, with his Lewis win. But these were more of one hit wonders.

Chris Byrd (2000 to 2005) and John Ruiz (2001 to 2006) were both multiple times world heavyweight champions and considered amongst the top-ten rated fighters of the division for six years apiece.

Hasim Rahman had a decent career also (2000 to 2002 and 2004 to 2005), as he was a former world champion and considered amongst the top-ten world-rated fighters of that division for five years.

Personally-speaking, Chris Byrd might have been the most accomplished American heavyweight during that decade.

I don’t feel that any of the names that we’ve mentioned were commercially big draws between 2000 and 2010.

[Onetimeonly]

Both Ward-Kovalev PPV's combined did 290k buys. That was horribly marketed.

Wilder-Fury was built much better. Needed 250k to break even and it's done around 320k.

It wasn't marketed for shit here. Considering all the outlets CBS has.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Chris Byrd (2000 to 2005) and John Ruiz (2001 to 2006) were both multiple times world heavyweight champions and considered amongst the top-ten rated fighters of the division for six years apiece.

Hasim Rahman had a decent career also (2000 to 2002 and 2004 to 2005), as he was a former world champion and considered amongst the top-ten world-rated fighters of that division for five years.

Personally-speaking, Chris Byrd might have been the most accomplished American heavyweight during that decade.

I don’t feel that any of the names that we’ve mentioned were commercially big draws between 2000 and 2010.

No, non were commercially successful.

RJJ drew 500k ppv buys against Ruiz.. That was probably the most successful off all the names mentioned, apart from Tyson-Lewis..

[Ruthless-RKO]

Both Ward-Kovalev PPV's combined did 290k buys. That was horribly marketed.

Wilder-Fury was built much better. Needed 250k to break even and it's done around 320k.

It wasn't marketed for poo here. Considering all the outlets CBS has.

No personalities or crowd pleasing styles.

[Onetimeonly]

Both Ward-Kovalev PPV's combined did 290k buys. That was horribly marketed.

Wilder-Fury was built much better. Needed 250k to break even and it's done around 320k.

It wasn't marketed for poo here. Considering all the outlets CBS has.

No personalities or crowd pleasing styles.

I was talking about last week. And you'd be lucky if 100 Americans could id Briggs from a picture.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I was talking about last week. And you'd be lucky if 100 Americans could id Briggs from a picture.

Ah.. It was decent here. Every other bus stop has a poster..

Also, I reckon more Brits know Briggs than Merican's..

Boxing is not what is once was in US.. Probably ranked #5 best sport?

[Heretic]

I was talking about last week. And you'd be lucky if 100 Americans could id Briggs from a picture.

Ah.. It was decent here. Every other bus stop has a poster..

Also, I reckon more Brits know Briggs than Merican's..

Boxing is not what is once was in US.. Probably ranked #5 best sport?

Nah I don't think its even that high.

Football
Basketball
Baseball
Hockey

Then I think games like Tennis and Golf will easily beat boxing.

If you count motorsports then probably you get few more before boxing.

Probably some others that I can't think of right now too.

Of course it depends on the criteria used. If you go by people participating then many track and field sports are easily ahead too. If you rank by viewing figures then boxing just might fit in top 10.