Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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ewenhay wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:33
Switch hitter wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:28 The whole things a joke......... trying to convince everyone the training was great blah blah blah. Kell has gone backwards and why all know why.
Why?
Really ???
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

Post by ewenhay »

I think he's taken the wrong fights at the wrong times.

When he beat Porter he shouldn't have went on the run of easy defences apart from the first mandatory which couldn't really be helped. He should have went after the big fights when he was at his peak. His best years have just slipped away making the wrong decisions.

Whilst Golovkin was a big fight and I'm sure a big pay day he should never have taken that fight. Got a broken orbital bone and god knows how much more damage physically and mentally.

No shame in the Spence defeat but he didn't give himself the best chance coming back down from middleweight against one of the world's up and coming fighters.

And now, all the chasing of Khan at this stage of his career is unbecoming and probably really mentally unfulfilling. He should have moved on from that one a while ago.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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ewenhay wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:33
Switch hitter wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:28 The whole things a joke......... trying to convince everyone the training was great blah blah blah. Kell has gone backwards and why all know why.
Why?
Think he is alluding to a lack of 'supplements' in his diet post the BJS fallout
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Brook should not fight the 154 champions. Even Liam Smith would do him.

Brook losing more weight would not be good for him either. Porter, Garcia, Thurman, Spence would all fûck him up.

Kell said he’d do the rehydration for Khan. But that was all just hype talk for me.

If not Khan next.. maybe someone else with a bit more than Zerafa will challenge Brook. Maybe even just beat him.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:38
rd350lc wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:34 Too much coming from Fewkes in the corner for me , simple clear instructions would have been better .

Kell flat as could be , probably cos it wasn't a big fight and he wasn't up for it .
Yeh. He was telling him too much shît. Kell has no respect for him. He did not listen. At least Fury listened to Davison.
Can’t remember what round it was maybe 9 or 10 but Brook was looking at Fewkes giving him instructions between rounds and seem to be thinking WTF is going on here?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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adamwillan wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:41
ewenhay wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:33
Switch hitter wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:28 The whole things a joke......... trying to convince everyone the training was great blah blah blah. Kell has gone backwards and why all know why.
Why?
Think he is alluding to a lack of 'supplements' in his diet post the BJS fallout
Ah. OK. I was genuinely asking why. I wasn't taking the piss
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Hearn’s Face at the end told the story. He knew Brook won but knew it was a poor performance.

Brook has peaked. On the slide for sure. The Rabchenko win was easy at 154, didn’t tell us anything. This fight he was taken the distance and he didn’t go the distance on purpose.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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adamwillan wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:41
ewenhay wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:33
Switch hitter wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:28 The whole things a joke......... trying to convince everyone the training was great blah blah blah. Kell has gone backwards and why all know why.
Why?
Think he is alluding to a lack of 'supplements' in his diet post the BJS fallout
:lol: :maybe:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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ewenhay wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:33
Switch hitter wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:28 The whole things a joke......... trying to convince everyone the training was great blah blah blah. Kell has gone backwards and why all know why.
Why?
Gone from a gym that churns out champions to someone who has never trained a pro boxer before.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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ewenhay wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:40 I think he's taken the wrong fights at the wrong times.

When he beat Porter he shouldn't have went on the run of easy defences apart from the first mandatory which couldn't really be helped. He should have went after the big fights when he was at his peak. His best years have just slipped away making the wrong decisions.

Whilst Golovkin was a big fight and I'm sure a big pay day he should never have taken that fight. Got a broken orbital bone and god knows how much more damage physically and mentally.

No shame in the Spence defeat but he didn't give himself the best chance coming back down from middleweight against one of the world's up and coming fighters.

And now, all the chasing of Khan at this stage of his career is unbecoming and probably really mentally unfulfilling. He should have moved on from that one a while ago.
He may well have beaten Spence if he hadn't had GGG - think what his career coulda been :cry:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

Post by MarkMcBurney »

ewenhay wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:43
adamwillan wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:41
ewenhay wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:33

Why?
Think he is alluding to a lack of 'supplements' in his diet post the BJS fallout
Ah. OK. I was genuinely asking why. I wasn't taking the piss
Unfortunately for the Ingle gym, VADA and UKAD were... :twisted:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

Post by handsofstone »

Thats about as poor as ive seen Brook ever, still had him winning 116-112 but after a brilliant 1st round where he nearly stopped Zerafa it was pretty much downhill, he did pick some nice shots, he does have that quality in his punches an that's what won him the rounds, some sharp lefts early on and in the second half he did eventually start landing some rights but you've gotta say on a whole he was far too poor defensively, no heads movement and ate jabs and right crosses all night, credit to Zerafa apart from being a tough cookie, he also had a great jab, some snaking right hands as well which caught Brook coming in time and again

Very poor from Brook, doesn't look big for a Super Welter, hopefully John Fewkes was blowing smoke in the ring afterwards because if hr was really impressed by that from Brook then it wont get better
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Eddie Hearn’s face said a thousand words tonight.

After Khan’s knockdown scare against Sam Vargas & Kell’s slugfest with Zerafa... both their stocks fell big time.

Khan Brook won’t do big PPV numbers now. They’d sell out the O2. That’s it. No stadium.

There was no signs of chocolate brownies tonight.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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kell looked very vocal in the corner after the fight, i can see him moving on, i reckon go america freddie roach
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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brilo33 wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:55 kell looked very vocal in the corner after the fight, i can see him moving on, i reckon go america freddie roach
And fight who? He has no options. Samuel Vargas would give him a good fight.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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This fight taught me that Zerafa vs. Vargas would be a good scrap!
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 20:09
brilo33 wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:55 kell looked very vocal in the corner after the fight, i can see him moving on, i reckon go america freddie roach
And fight who? He has no options. Samuel Vargas would give him a good fight.
your right, i dont think kell has more than a khan fight in him . wouldnt be worth it. for some reason i thinking of a young kell , but he aint any more
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 20:10 This fight taught me that Zerafa vs. Vargas would be a good scrap!
For sure!
I told you Zerafa was tough, but I didn't expect Brook to be quite that bad...
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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ewenhay wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:43
adamwillan wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:41
ewenhay wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:33

Why?
Think he is alluding to a lack of 'supplements' in his diet post the BJS fallout
Ah. OK. I was genuinely asking why. I wasn't taking the piss
Not supplements........ I was talking about his best training camp ever......
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

Post by mickey1975 »

skanksta wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 15:47 Quais Asfaq looked ok.
Kez is a multi titled junior and senior Olympian who has boxed all over the world. He’s slightly better than ok!
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

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brilo33 wrote: 08 Dec 2018, 19:55 kell looked very vocal in the corner after the fight, i can see him moving on, i reckon go america freddie roach
Kell said he tried Adam Etches out and then Fewkes. Two of his mates who haven't trained a pro boxer between them. The guy who he usually trained with was doing a good job. If he didn't want to pay him, I can't see him moving to LA.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Kell Brook vs. Michael Zerafa - 8 December 2018

Post by tobyh5 »

I did not even bother watching this and reading the rbr, I am glad. Brook is someone who I find exceptionally overrated and one who wasted a talent. I say overrated as a reference to what he could have achieved and not skillset.

No way of knowing how good he could have been as the career has been rubbish. When it can be argued that Carson Jones and Matthew Hatton are in your top five best wins, Senchenko is your second best win and your best win (Porter) is so heavily disputed, utter waste
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