Hearn: Wilder-Fury PPV Number is Terrible, Absolutely Terrible

[TheGingerBomber]

Can’t believe this time last year I liked Hearn.

He’s becoming more bitter, he’s a big old Tory, he’s brought us terrible fight nights this year, and some crap PPV cards. He’s now focusing on the States, giving these Yanks what the Brits deserve, even that Italian fight night was more interesting than the Brook/Zerafa show.

The lack of honesty in boxing is remarkable.

[Boxerbeetle]

Can’t believe this time last year I liked Hearn.

He’s becoming more bitter, he’s a big old Tory, he’s brought us terrible fight nights this year, and some crap PPV cards. He’s now focusing on the States, giving these Yanks what the Brits deserve, even that Italian fight night was more interesting than the Brook/Zerafa show.

The lack of honesty in boxing is remarkable.

If you want honesty, you’re following the wrong sport

[lillywhite14]

Anyone care what this toff and his daddy say? Let the real men get on with the real fights and not the panto soap opera rubbish you put on

Fair point.

Make no mistake though, Warrrens boys are every bit as posh and spoilt.

I just can’t stand promoters. Absolute snakes bar none

[Onetimeonly]

Promoter Eddie Hearn has slammed down the reported pay-per-view numbers for the recent heavyweight collision between WBC champion Deontay Wilder and challenger Tyson Fury.

The very vocal promoter slammed the reported pay-per-view figures - stating that Dillian Whyte's recent pay-per-view with Joseph Parker did a high buyrate.

“It's now easier to make the Wilder fight vs other circumstances,” said Hearn to The Independent.

“So if Wilder would have won devastatingly, he would have been a f****** nightmare. Everyone thought he lost so he drew and although his stock has gone up because he is well-known, it's not like he was this phenomenon.

“To do 300,000 buys is terrible, absolutely terrible. 300,000 is absolutely abysmal. Dillian Whyte against Joseph Parker did more than 300,000 buys in England. I mean we're talking about across the US. You can't say it's good. Canelo and Golovkin have just done 1.2 million and they're middleweights.”

But what Hearn neglects are the revenue figures.

Wilder-Fury, at a price range of $74.99, brought in $24.3 million in pay-per-view revenue. While Whyte-Parker, which retailed for a third of that price at £19.95, only brought in $8.1 million in revenue under the same buy number as Wilder-Fury.

Half the revenue here goes to the cable/satellite providers.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Promoter Eddie Hearn has slammed down the reported pay-per-view numbers for the recent heavyweight collision between WBC champion Deontay Wilder and challenger Tyson Fury.

The very vocal promoter slammed the reported pay-per-view figures - stating that Dillian Whyte's recent pay-per-view with Joseph Parker did a high buyrate.

“It's now easier to make the Wilder fight vs other circumstances,” said Hearn to The Independent.

“So if Wilder would have won devastatingly, he would have been a f****** nightmare. Everyone thought he lost so he drew and although his stock has gone up because he is well-known, it's not like he was this phenomenon.

“To do 300,000 buys is terrible, absolutely terrible. 300,000 is absolutely abysmal. Dillian Whyte against Joseph Parker did more than 300,000 buys in England. I mean we're talking about across the US. You can't say it's good. Canelo and Golovkin have just done 1.2 million and they're middleweights.”

But what Hearn neglects are the revenue figures.

Wilder-Fury, at a price range of $74.99, brought in $24.3 million in pay-per-view revenue. While Whyte-Parker, which retailed for a third of that price at £19.95, only brought in $8.1 million in revenue under the same buy number as Wilder-Fury.

Half the revenue here goes to the cable/satellite providers.

With everything paid to cable providers etc. The fight broke even and everyone was paid.

[tiny_acres]

But what Hearn neglects are the revenue figures.

Wilder-Fury, at a price range of $74.99, brought in $24.3 million in pay-per-view revenue. While Whyte-Parker, which retailed for a third of that price at £19.95, only brought in $8.1 million in revenue under the same buy number as Wilder-Fury.

This sums up the facts. Hearn is using figured yo distort the truth. He did not lie he just used tactics that politicians use.
So dollar for dollar 325k buys in America are close to 1 million buys in Britain.
It's comparing Apple's to oranges

How many buys would Whyte-Parker have done had it been in the UK for £50 a buy? Imagine.

Twelve. Not 1200 just 12

[tiny_acres]

Promoter Eddie Hearn has slammed down the reported pay-per-view numbers for the recent heavyweight collision between WBC champion Deontay Wilder and challenger Tyson Fury.

The very vocal promoter slammed the reported pay-per-view figures - stating that Dillian Whyte's recent pay-per-view with Joseph Parker did a high buyrate.

“It's now easier to make the Wilder fight vs other circumstances,” said Hearn to The Independent.

“So if Wilder would have won devastatingly, he would have been a f****** nightmare. Everyone thought he lost so he drew and although his stock has gone up because he is well-known, it's not like he was this phenomenon.

“To do 300,000 buys is terrible, absolutely terrible. 300,000 is absolutely abysmal. Dillian Whyte against Joseph Parker did more than 300,000 buys in England. I mean we're talking about across the US. You can't say it's good. Canelo and Golovkin have just done 1.2 million and they're middleweights.”

But what Hearn neglects are the revenue figures.

Wilder-Fury, at a price range of $74.99, brought in $24.3 million in pay-per-view revenue. While Whyte-Parker, which retailed for a third of that price at £19.95, only brought in $8.1 million in revenue under the same buy number as Wilder-Fury.

Half the revenue here goes to the cable/satellite providers.

With everything paid to cable providers etc. The fight broke even and everyone was paid.

According to Showtime 250,000 was break even

[Ruthless-RKO]

Half the revenue here goes to the cable/satellite providers.

With everything paid to cable providers etc. The fight broke even and everyone was paid.

According to Showtime 250,000 was break even

So they did 75k more buys than than. Nearly $6 in revenue. Then on top of that the live gate.

[Ricky]

This sums up the facts. Hearn is using figured yo distort the truth. He did not lie he just used tactics that politicians use.
So dollar for dollar 325k buys in America are close to 1 million buys in Britain.
It's comparing Apple's to oranges

How many buys would Whyte-Parker have done had it been in the UK for £50 a buy? Imagine.

Twelve. Not 1200 just 12

Sky had to cancel Khan vs Paul McCloskey because it only sold about 50 buys. Ended up on some wierd channel than picked it up.

[Ruthless-RKO]

How many buys would Whyte-Parker have done had it been in the UK for £50 a buy? Imagine.

Twelve. Not 1200 just 12

Sky had to cancel Khan vs Paul McCloskey because it only sold about 50 buys. Ended up on some wierd channel than picked it up.

Prime time.

It ended up doing more than 100k.. shouldn’t have been a PPV anyway.

[tiny_acres]

How many buys would Whyte-Parker have done had it been in the UK for £50 a buy? Imagine.

Twelve. Not 1200 just 12

Sky had to cancel Khan vs Paul McCloskey because it only sold about 50 buys. Ended up on some wierd channel than picked it up.

Most cards are not deserving of ppv

[jamamb]

obvously 300 wasnt terrble.....thats a respectable number for sure...but certanly no mega fight number

[jamamb]

300k buys is crap though, considering some on here are so convinced that Fury & Wilder are such massive draws despite all evidence to the contrary.

Not at all. Canelo did 300k against Liam Smith. That fight was sold on Canelo’s name alone. That’s poor for a Canelo fight. This was Wilder and Fury’s first time on PPV. Let’s not forget 10 million who watched via illegal streams.

It’s all about the revenue.

We had predictions on here that it would do over 1 million buys!

ya there were some ppl sayng around 1m and that ppl who doubted that didnt now anything .

tbf 200-300 was the most selected range i recall on a current scene poll

[Ruthless-RKO]

Twelve. Not 1200 just 12

Sky had to cancel Khan vs Paul McCloskey because it only sold about 50 buys. Ended up on some wierd channel than picked it up.

Most cards are not deserving of ppv

Yeh. Doesn’t matter if Matchroom want to bulk up the undercard like they tend to do.. a PPV’s main attraction is always the main event. People mostly have always bought a PPV for the main event.

People always defend the Brook-Gavin card because the undercard was good. I couldn’t give a flying fück to be honest.

Even the Joshua-Whyte card. Have to admit the undercard was decent. How many people bought that for anything other than the main event?

[leejonesjnr]

Sky had to cancel Khan vs Paul McCloskey because it only sold about 50 buys. Ended up on some wierd channel than picked it up.

Most cards are not deserving of ppv

Yeh. Doesn’t matter if Matchroom want to bulk up the undercard like they tend to do.. a PPV’s main attraction is always the main event. People mostly have always bought a PPV for the main event.

People always defend the Brook-Gavin card because the undercard was good. I couldn’t give a flying fück to be honest.

Even the Joshua-Whyte card. Have to admit the undercard was decent. How many people bought that for anything other than the main event?

Don’t talk nonsense, people buy PPVs for Dave Allen

[tiny_acres]

Not at all. Canelo did 300k against Liam Smith. That fight was sold on Canelo’s name alone. That’s poor for a Canelo fight. This was Wilder and Fury’s first time on PPV. Let’s not forget 10 million who watched via illegal streams.

It’s all about the revenue.

We had predictions on here that it would do over 1 million buys!

ya there were some ppl sayng around 1m and that ppl who doubted that didnt now anything .

tbf 200-300 was the most selected range i recall on a current scene poll

I honestly thought 600k plus.
Oh well I've been wrong more times than I can count

[Ruthless-RKO]

Most cards are not deserving of ppv

Yeh. Doesn’t matter if Matchroom want to bulk up the undercard like they tend to do.. a PPV’s main attraction is always the main event. People mostly have always bought a PPV for the main event.

People always defend the Brook-Gavin card because the undercard was good. I couldn’t give a flying fück to be honest.

Even the Joshua-Whyte card. Have to admit the undercard was decent. How many people bought that for anything other than the main event?

Don’t talk nonsense, people buy PPVs for Dave Allen

Of course.. him and David Price. He’s gonna really help the buys for Whyte-Chisora II..

[leejonesjnr]

Yeh. Doesn’t matter if Matchroom want to bulk up the undercard like they tend to do.. a PPV’s main attraction is always the main event. People mostly have always bought a PPV for the main event.

People always defend the Brook-Gavin card because the undercard was good. I couldn’t give a flying fück to be honest.

Even the Joshua-Whyte card. Have to admit the undercard was decent. How many people bought that for anything other than the main event?

Don’t talk nonsense, people buy PPVs for Dave Allen

Of course.. him and David Price. He’s gonna really help the buys for Whyte-Chisora II..

Dunno why I said that really, I quite like watching Dave Allen. David Price too.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Don’t talk nonsense, people buy PPVs for Dave Allen

Of course.. him and David Price. He’s gonna really help the buys for Whyte-Chisora II..

Dunno why I said that really, I quite like watching Dave Allen. David Price too.

I admit they can be good additions to a card.

[jamamb]

We had predictions on here that it would do over 1 million buys!

ya there were some ppl sayng around 1m and that ppl who doubted that didnt now anything .

tbf 200-300 was the most selected range i recall on a current scene poll

I honestly thought 600k plus.
Oh well I've been wrong more times than I can count

well at least unlike another poster you werent telling people they know nothing because they didnt think it would get anything close to 1m

[Stuarty]

We live in an age where we have to look at all the shíte behind the scenes because of the way things are played out! It's not just boxing either. I'm a football fan and when I was younger I couldn't have told you the names of any of the top clubs owners! Nowadays they're all more or less household fuckin names!

[Ruthless-RKO]

We live in an age where we have to look at all the shíte behind the scenes because of the way things are played out! It's not just boxing either. I'm a football fan and when I was younger I couldn't have told you the names of any of the top clubs owners! Nowadays they're all more or less household fuckin names!

You’re not wrong there mate. Just used to enjoy the football. That’s probably kids now days. I think as we get older we get an understanding of the business side of things. So we get more involved. Unfortunately?

[Stuarty]

We live in an age where we have to look at all the shíte behind the scenes because of the way things are played out! It's not just boxing either. I'm a football fan and when I was younger I couldn't have told you the names of any of the top clubs owners! Nowadays they're all more or less household fuckin names!

You’re not wrong there mate. Just used to enjoy the football. That’s probably kids now days. I think as we get older we get an understanding of the business side of things. So we get more involved. Unfortunately?

Yeah you're probably right mate. In saying that I still don't understand it all

I'm a Rangers fan and I'm still confused about all the shíte that happened to us the last few years

[tiny_acres]

We live in an age where we have to look at all the shíte behind the scenes because of the way things are played out! It's not just boxing either. I'm a football fan and when I was younger I couldn't have told you the names of any of the top clubs owners! Nowadays they're all more or less household fuckin names!

You’re not wrong there mate. Just used to enjoy the football. That’s probably kids now days. I think as we get older we get an understanding of the business side of things. So we get more involved. Unfortunately?

Yeah you're probably right mate. In saying that I still don't understand it all

I'm a Rangers fan and I'm still confused about all the shíte that happened to us the last few years

Here in the states all team sports have salary caps. We have to argue about if a player is going to get a contract extension or cut because they aren't deserving of the money.
The owners are as well known as the players and some owners are better known.
No matter how much I love having the knowledge of the internet at my finger tips. I miss the days of just watching sports without the financials and politics that we not only have to listen to. But must weigh them as well

[Stuarty]

You’re not wrong there mate. Just used to enjoy the football. That’s probably kids now days. I think as we get older we get an understanding of the business side of things. So we get more involved. Unfortunately?

Yeah you're probably right mate. In saying that I still don't understand it all

I'm a Rangers fan and I'm still confused about all the shíte that happened to us the last few years

Here in the states all team sports have salary caps. We have to argue about if a player is going to get a contract extension or cut because they aren't deserving of the money.
The owners are as well known as the players and some owners are better known.
No matter how much I love having the knowledge of the internet at my finger tips. I miss the days of just watching sports without the financials and politics that we not only have to listen to. But must weigh them as well

Yeah I miss that as well!