A sincere question from an American fan

[MF DOOM]

I don't think Hatton would have beaten Cotto. Cotto was a beast at 140.

Maybe not, but the view was much more split at the time.

Cotto would have cleaned his fcking clock.

In your spectacularly uninformed opinion. And despite the fact that Cotto was dropped and rocked more than once against one of the undefeated and hungry fighters he faced as a titlist, in a fight where it looked like making weight was taking its toll, and taken the distance by the other.

[Boxerbeetle]

Yeah I always thought Cotto looked a bit fragile at 140 which was why I thought Hatton might well have broken him down (was it Corley who really shook him up?) Anyway, he looked much stronger after moving up.

[MF DOOM]

Yeah I always thought Cotto looked a bit fragile at 140 which was why I thought Hatton might well have broken him down (was it Corley who really shook him up?) Anyway, he looked much stronger after moving up.

Nonsense. Cotto was as strong as an ox at 140. He made the conscious decision to look like a refugee from Treblinka on the scales and the reason he was ushered off them wrapped in a towel was down to the fact that he is an avid James Brown fan.

[Boxerbeetle]

Yeah I always thought Cotto looked a bit fragile at 140 which was why I thought Hatton might well have broken him down (was it Corley who really shook him up?) Anyway, he looked much stronger after moving up.

Nonsense. Cotto was as strong as an ox at 140. He made the conscious decision to look like a refugee from Treblinka on the scales and the reason he was ushered off them wrapped in a towel was down to the fact that he is an avid James Brown fan.

Perhaps I was wrong, but I was convinced at the time that he could be fragile if pressured by someone like Hatton. Strong but fragile, the same as I always thought Kovalev was. Although yeah, in hindsight I was obviously wrong about Cotto.

[MF DOOM]

Yeah I always thought Cotto looked a bit fragile at 140 which was why I thought Hatton might well have broken him down (was it Corley who really shook him up?) Anyway, he looked much stronger after moving up.

Nonsense. Cotto was as strong as an ox at 140. He made the conscious decision to look like a refugee from Treblinka on the scales and the reason he was ushered off them wrapped in a towel was down to the fact that he is an avid James Brown fan.

Perhaps I was wrong, but I was convinced at the time that he could be fragile if pressured by someone like Hatton. Strong but fragile, the same as I always thought Kovalev was. Although yeah, in hindsight I was obviously wrong about Cotto.

I was messing about. He was struggling badly at the weight according to the experts, but RKY came along years later and cured him of all those problems. It is the miracle of Christmas.

[Boxerbeetle]

Nonsense. Cotto was as strong as an ox at 140. He made the conscious decision to look like a refugee from Treblinka on the scales and the reason he was ushered off them wrapped in a towel was down to the fact that he is an avid James Brown fan.

Perhaps I was wrong, but I was convinced at the time that he could be fragile if pressured by someone like Hatton. Strong but fragile, the same as I always thought Kovalev was. Although yeah, in hindsight I was obviously wrong about Cotto.

I was messing about. He was struggling badly at the weight according to the experts, but RKY came along years later and cured him of all those problems. It is the miracle of Christmas.

It is easy to view a fighter in a certain way after making your mind up about him though. I remember saying to my mates ‘see, always told you he was fragile!’ after Cotto got stopped by Margarito. Not my finest hour, considering what we learned afterwards

[MF DOOM]

Perhaps I was wrong, but I was convinced at the time that he could be fragile if pressured by someone like Hatton. Strong but fragile, the same as I always thought Kovalev was. Although yeah, in hindsight I was obviously wrong about Cotto.

I was messing about. He was struggling badly at the weight according to the experts, but RKY came along years later and cured him of all those problems. It is the miracle of Christmas.

It is easy to view a fighter in a certain way after making your mind up about him though. I remember saying to my mates ‘see, always told you he was fragile!’ after Cotto got stopped by Margarito. Not my finest hour, considering what we learned afterwards

I was gutted when he lost to Margarito, even more so in the aftermath. Shane cleaning the cheat's clock in great style was a brilliant feel good moment in boxing.

[Covfefe]

I don't think Hatton would have beaten Cotto. Cotto was a beast at 140.

Maybe not, but the view was much more split at the time.

Cotto would have cleaned his fcking clock.

Who was better than Hatton in the division when he beat Paulie??

[ALI]

I don't think Hatton would have beaten Cotto. Cotto was a beast at 140.

Agreed, i always thought Cotto would have handled him comfortably.

[Cojimar 1946]

I don't see how people can be sure Haye was the best of his era, he didn't face many of his most dangerous potential rivals.

[actjac]

Which is a shame as a fit, two-fisted Haye should have been a force at heavyweight. He got too right hand happy and didn’t get back to somewhere near his best until the Chisora fight, and by then it was far too late. Haye is a wasted talent IMO. One of the biggest disappointments during my time watching boxing.

Even now he tries to stay relevant. . . . and still there will be those British fans who can't let go and will call for a fight versus Joshua or Fury or Joyce or Dubois or even Wilder. . . . *sigh*

[Onetimeonly]

Which is a shame as a fit, two-fisted Haye should have been a force at heavyweight. He got too right hand happy and didn’t get back to somewhere near his best until the Chisora fight, and by then it was far too late. Haye is a wasted talent IMO. One of the biggest disappointments during my time watching boxing.

Even now he tries to stay relevant. . . . and still there will be those British fans who can't let go and will call for a fight versus Joshua or Fury or Joyce or Dubois or even Wilder. . . . *sigh*

He's retired, get a life.

[MF DOOM]

Which is a shame as a fit, two-fisted Haye should have been a force at heavyweight. He got too right hand happy and didn’t get back to somewhere near his best until the Chisora fight, and by then it was far too late. Haye is a wasted talent IMO. One of the biggest disappointments during my time watching boxing.

Even now he tries to stay relevant. . . . and still there will be those British fans who can't let go and will call for a fight versus Joshua or Fury or Joyce or Dubois or even Wilder. . . . *sigh*

I've not heard anyone call for Haye to fight on.