Best Coast wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 17:29
I agree totally. Dubois was actually supposed to fight today but had to pull out due to some kind of illness. I think Joyce should be included here, even though he is 33. Someone who only has 7 pro fights is STILL a prospect and FAR MORE LEGIT than guys like Jermaine Franklin ( ) Nathan Gorman ( ) and Tom Schwarz ( )
dubois hasnt been moved any faster then gorman even though there both 21-22 , dont know why youd agree that dubs one of the most fast tracked but then eye roll at gorman. lol do you think crap guys like dl jones were good tests because of there padded unbeaten record?
gorms now fighting the guy dubois was incidentally, hell have a better record then dub
I think Dubois is a better prospect than Gorman. Time will tell...
Dubois was as impressive against Kevin Johnson as Filip Hrgovic was and everyone here seems to agree that Hrgovic is the best current HW prospect. I'm not saying Dubois is in Hrgovic's league yet but I really believe he is a step above Gorman. He also has a bigger name outside Britain than Gorman and that should factor into which of the two gets a world title shot first. We'll see how it plays out...
..since you pulled out the common opponent thing......gorman destroyed sean turner in 3 even though hrgov had to go a full 8.
much larger difference there then with dub/hrg/johnson
sweetviolenturge wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 18:08
Despite the OP's obvious bias against Joe Joyce he's the highest profile prospect internationally & the furthest advanced fighter on this list ( with Hrgovic coming in at a very close second place though he hasn't expanded his profile outside of Europe yet as Joyce has ) so he's likely to get a title opportunity first.
I'm totally biased on Joyce, because he's over-hyped. Have you actually watched him fight?
Yes, sir, I've seen the majority of his fights that have been televised. And, yes. I agree he's still raw & rough around the edges but then so was George Foreman when he was beating the likes of Chuck Wepner, "Goyo" Peralta & even George Chuvalo. I'm not saying that Joyce is another Foreman though. Just that he has a similar style & power.
You don't see much of a future for him? That's cool. We all have our own opinions, likes & dislikes.
sweetviolenturge wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 18:08
Despite the OP's obvious bias against Joe Joyce he's the highest profile prospect internationally & the furthest advanced fighter on this list ( with Hrgovic coming in at a very close second place though he hasn't expanded his profile outside of Europe yet as Joyce has ) so he's likely to get a title opportunity first.
I'm totally biased on Joyce, because he's over-hyped. Have you actually watched him fight?
Yes, sir, I've seen the majority of his fights that have been televised. And, yes. I agree he's still raw & rough around the edges but then so was George Foreman when he was beating the likes of Chuck Wepner, "Goyo" Peralta & even George Chuvalo. I'm not saying that Joyce is another Foreman though. Just that he has a similar style & power.
You don't see much of a future for him? That's cool. We all have our own opinions, likes & dislikes.
You're seriously comparing Slo-Mo Joe Joyce to a young George Foreman who beat Wepner; Peralta; and Chuvalo??? I know you're not saying Joyce is another Foreman, but sir...have you lost your mind?
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