Dominic Breazeale vs. Carlos Negrón - December 22, 2018

[candyslim]

Then my work here is done

[Lennox]

If Negron wasn't inactive and ranked by boxrec, where do you think he would be rated?
My guess is around 250-300

HE IS ranked 59 with the PBO pre-bout

[KiwiRider]

Brazeale better pull finger, according to the radio he is 3 down after 3

[Perseus]

Sloppy but entertaining fight.

[oogiebe]

Sloppy but entertaining fight.

It was all I could do not to change the channel. Breazeale sucks moose cocks and you know how big they are.

[DrDuke]

It was a decent scrap. Negron was fighting back, but Breazeale KOed him in a spectacular fashion eventually. Actually it's a contestant for KO of the day against Whyte-Chisora KO.

[oogiebe]

It was a decent scrap. Negron was fighting back, but Breazeale KOed him in a spectacular fashion eventually. Actually it's a contestant for KO of the day against Whyte-Chisora KO.

Do you really think it SHOULD have been a decent scrap? Negron is a nothing fighter who should have been trounced, not a ninth round KO.

[KiwiRider]

It was a decent scrap. Negron was fighting back, but Breazeale KOed him in a spectacular fashion eventually. Actually it's a contestant for KO of the day against Whyte-Chisora KO.

Do you really think it SHOULD have been a decent scrap? Negron is a nothing fighter who should have been trounced, not a ninth round KO.

It wasn't the sort of performance a #1 contender should have had against a rank outsider.

[candyslim]

Dom's skill-set is such that any opponent who box a little and punch a little is going to need to be worn down. A year of ring-rust isn't going to help matters either.

[oogiebe]

Dom's skill-set is such that any opponent who box a little and punch a little is going to need to be worn down. A year of ring-rust isn't going to help matters either.

Honestly, he never looked worse and he never looked better than what we saw last evening. He's crap, pure and simple.

[sweetviolenturge]

It was a decent scrap. Negron was fighting back, but Breazeale KOed him in a spectacular fashion eventually. Actually it's a contestant for KO of the day against Whyte-Chisora KO.

Do you really think it SHOULD have been a decent scrap? Negron is a nothing fighter who should have been trounced, not a ninth round KO.

No, the spectacular KO finish aside, it wasn't an impressive performance by Breazeale but a good portion of that was due to the solid effort put forth by Negron who I wouldn't disparage as being a "nothing fighter". He comes from an excellent amateur career in which he was an Olympian & he'd won the vast majority of his pro fights via KO. So, he was a dangerous opponent who displayed very good skills early on. Especially with his body attack which was world class for the first few rounds.
I think if matched properly Negron could still make a little noise in the division. Probably not as a contender but as a good gatekeeper/spoiler-type.
As for Breazeale, he did the important thing by winning & doing so via a highlight reel knock out. Which is enough to keep him in the position of being the 'BC's mandatory challenger. A status that will likely net him a title shot sometime this year.

[oogiebe]

It was a decent scrap. Negron was fighting back, but Breazeale KOed him in a spectacular fashion eventually. Actually it's a contestant for KO of the day against Whyte-Chisora KO.

Do you really think it SHOULD have been a decent scrap? Negron is a nothing fighter who should have been trounced, not a ninth round KO.

No, the spectacular KO finish aside, it wasn't an impressive performance by Breazeale but a good portion of that was due to the solid effort put forth by Negron who I wouldn't disparage as being a "nothing fighter". He comes from an excellent amateur career in which he was an Olympian & he'd won the vast majority of his pro fights via KO. So, he was a dangerous opponent who displayed very good skills early on. Especially with his body attack which was world class for the first few rounds.
I think if matched properly Negron could still make a little noise in the division. Probably not as a contender but as a good gatekeeper/spoiler-type.
As for Breazeale, he did the important thing by winning & doing so via a highlight reel knock out. Which is enough to keep him in the position of being the 'BC's mandatory challenger. A status that will likely net him a title shot sometime this year.

Fair points, but Negron should have been handled easier by the mandatory challenger. My point really is the Breazeale doesn't deserve the title shot and hasn't earned it. He's not even in my top 10 HW's today.

[DrDuke]

Yeah, I expected Breazeale to deal with Negron much faster, but it developed to a relatively competetive affair. Not too good situation for a potential contender indeed.

[sweetviolenturge]

I see where you're coming from. Though I don't begrudge him his second title opportunity. Even though he doesn't really deserve it, of course. Especially since the WBC granted it to him based on his victory over Eric Molina. But, that's boxing politics for you...

[Ruthless-RKO]

Styles make fights.

[jamamb]

not sure its really stlyes, breazeales just a flawed guy whose looked not good or struggled several times now, vs kassi, mansour, izu, etc. even coming up when he was quickly stopping guys like consuerga he didnt look good.

part of it is just that hes slow and has an ugly style and is hittable. his strengths are there , in that hes big, strong, and resilient, but they dont look pretty.

[candyslim]

Dom's skill-set is such that any opponent who box a little and punch a little is going to need to be worn down. A year of ring-rust isn't going to help matters either.

Honestly, he never looked worse and he never looked better than what we saw last evening. He's crap, pure and simple.

It was the best of times. It was the worst of times, eh?

I have a soft spot for Dominic as I do for any fighter that has real balls (and frequently it's the less skilled fighters that win my admiration). I'm not impressed that he's sat on his arse for a year waiting for Wilder though, but I guess there's plenty would so the same. I just thought he was better than that.

I see where you're coming from. Though I don't begrudge him his second title opportunity. Even though he doesn't really deserve it, of course. Especially since the WBC granted it to him based on his victory over Eric Molina. But, that's boxing politics for you...

The only reason I begrudge him is that his shot should have been Whyte's. The WBC haven't even called Breazeale's mandatory yet. By the time they get around to their number one, Dillian Whyte, he'll be in a care-home at this rate.

[Lennox]

A case of two donkeys making a derby.

Brezealle is barely top 10, probably he is like a top 40 heavyweight. Negron probably barely top 100 from the quality depth of 10-20 years ago.

The difference atm is apart from the top 8 or so, it is a real crap-shoot who makes 9-40. If you look that the new guys like Joyce, kuzmin, Hgrovic, you can see a bright future in the HW div.

With no really good Americans or not enough..the rankings 11-40 are littered with the European fighters that have already bashed each other up.

On hindsight Joe Parker was not really a top 5 heavyweight but his wins and losses and caused a reasonable order to those in the top 10 and those not.

Finding the level for DB? I think Parker beats him, most of the new crop... not sure if Chisora beats him but I would bet Chisora beats him if I was forced to say.

[Mexi-Box]

A case of two donkeys making a derby.

Brezealle is barely top 10, probably he is like a top 40 heavyweight. Negron probably barely top 100 from the quality depth of 10-20 years ago.

The difference atm is apart from the top 8 or so, it is a real crap-shoot who makes 9-40. If you look that the new guys like Joyce, kuzmin, Hgrovic, you can see a bright future in the HW div.

With no really good Americans or not enough..the rankings 11-40 are littered with the European fighters that have already bashed each other up.

On hindsight Joe Parker was not really a top 5 heavyweight but his wins and losses and caused a reasonable order to those in the top 10 and those not.

Finding the level for DB? I think Parker beats him, most of the new crop... not sure if Chisora beats him but I would bet Chisora beats him if I was forced to say.

Parker/Chisora would be more competitive than Chisora/Breazeale. Chisora feasts on guys that are stupid enough to stand and trade with him. Unless Chisora comes in with no care like he's done before, he'll stop Breazeale.

[Lennox]

A case of two donkeys making a derby.

Brezealle is barely top 10, probably he is like a top 40 heavyweight. Negron probably barely top 100 from the quality depth of 10-20 years ago.

The difference atm is apart from the top 8 or so, it is a real crap-shoot who makes 9-40. If you look that the new guys like Joyce, kuzmin, Hgrovic, you can see a bright future in the HW div.

With no really good Americans or not enough..the rankings 11-40 are littered with the European fighters that have already bashed each other up.

On hindsight Joe Parker was not really a top 5 heavyweight but his wins and losses and caused a reasonable order to those in the top 10 and those not.

Finding the level for DB? I think Parker beats him, most of the new crop... not sure if Chisora beats him but I would bet Chisora beats him if I was forced to say.

Parker/Chisora would be more competitive than Chisora/Breazeale. Chisora feasts on guys that are stupid enough to stand and trade with him. Unless Chisora comes in with no care like he's done before, he'll stop Breazeale.

Yes I pretty much agree. DB would need to outbox DC from a distance. Over 10 rounds I think Dereck would get him.