Miller vs. Parker, who wins ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 26 Dec 2018, 14:31

It might be interesting. Who would win ? How ?

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 26 Dec 2018, 15:03

I think Parker is now underestimated. He can outwork and out hit Miller. Miller hasn't had a live body in front of him and Parker might just be the perfect foil.

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 26 Dec 2018, 15:15

Close call. Miller probably will be exposed against a good mover and Parker is a pretty good mover, but still he somehow is too passive against top guys, thus his movement isn't so effective.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 26 Dec 2018, 15:19

DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:15 Close call. Miller probably will be exposed against a good mover and Parker is a pretty good mover, but still he somehow is too passive against top guys, thus his movement isn't so effective.

Historically I agree regarding Parker, but he's finding a new approach that's more aggressive. If he can really make that change (he's only 26), then I feel Miller would be in trouble here.

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 26 Dec 2018, 15:34

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:19
DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:15 Close call. Miller probably will be exposed against a good mover and Parker is a pretty good mover, but still he somehow is too passive against top guys, thus his movement isn't so effective.
Historically I agree regarding Parker, but he's finding a new approach that's more aggressive. If he can really make that change (he's only 26), then I feel Miller would be in trouble here.

Well, Parker's rebirth gotta be proved on the higher level.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 26 Dec 2018, 15:34

DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:34
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:19
DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:15 Close call. Miller probably will be exposed against a good mover and Parker is a pretty good mover, but still he somehow is too passive against top guys, thus his movement isn't so effective.
Historically I agree regarding Parker, but he's finding a new approach that's more aggressive. If he can really make that change (he's only 26), then I feel Miller would be in trouble here.
Well, Parker's rebirth gotta be proved on the higher level.

Right, thus my statement in bold.

boxing_rocks · Post by **boxing_rocks** » 26 Dec 2018, 16:20

If I had to bet, I would pick Miller even though he is still a dark horse.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 26 Dec 2018, 16:22

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 16:20 If I had to bet, I would pick Miller even though he is still a dark horse.

Someone had mentioned Takam. Not a bad choice for Usyk's first HW fight. He should win easily and get the feel of a bigger, although not taller opponent in the ring.

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 26 Dec 2018, 19:40

miller imo, though surprised almost all his picks in the poll are by stoppage. i think decision.

gregregegg · Post by **gregregegg** » 26 Dec 2018, 20:03

It wont happen, cause miller would never take am opponent like parker but cant believe Miller by KO is so popular on the pole. People are acting like parker has had a mayjor step back, he lost points to AJ, not a great preformance . and he lost close points to dillian but was knocked down by a head clash, witch changed the fight for sure and he managed to come back to the point where if there was a 3;30 minit round 12 he would of won.

Gennady mukzz · Post by **Gennady mukzz** » 26 Dec 2018, 20:06

Parker definitely, after those 2 losses , he now knows he needs to be more aggressive because he is already a great and skilled boxer when it comes to movement he just needs to be more aggressive

Onetimeonly · Post by **Onetimeonly** » 26 Dec 2018, 20:37

I went Parker by Dec but a stoppage wouldn't surprise me. Miller comes off as having a good chin and his stamina is good for today's soft pace.

dagilechia · Post by **dagilechia** » 27 Dec 2018, 07:06

close fight, Parker seems recently like he lacks will to win, he is very lazy, most likely Miller would win on points

Verdi · Post by **Verdi** » 27 Dec 2018, 08:36

Parker.

At the moment I see Miller as the new Butterbean. I'm happy to be proved wrong though.

candyslim · Post by **candyslim** » 27 Dec 2018, 09:32

I'd go with Miller although I do see Parker as having a very good chance. I would imagine this would go the distance whoever wins. I see Miller outworking him. Parker does have a tendency to switch off and coast.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 27 Dec 2018, 12:37

Parker is a good mover with tremendous hand peed.

Miller is huge, but he isn't a slouch, but he hasn't fought anyone.

Parker has mixed in far better company and I believe his experience at a higher level would be the deciding factor.

Parker UD.

Mexi-Box · Post by **Mexi-Box** » 27 Dec 2018, 15:25

I'll just go with Parker, but damn, he can lose or go close in fights he should win. He often comes in fat when he shouldn't too. If he comes in out of shape like he did against Ruiz Jr. and Huey, I think Miller might take it.

Either way, Parker is good on the backfoot, Miller is notoriously prone to being outboxed, and Parker's chin is iron. Parker should make an easy, dominant decision but it is Parker.

lillywhite14 · Post by **lillywhite14** » 27 Dec 2018, 15:27

Parker would beat all of them on his best night apart from Fury and Joshua. Wilser would be 50/50

Whyte got relatively lucky against Parker. Parker was coming off defeat and the headclash affected him. He’s quite frustrating is Joseph. Lacks confidence

dagilechia · Post by **dagilechia** » 27 Dec 2018, 15:29

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2018, 15:27 Whyte got relatively lucky against Parker. Parker was coming off defeat and the headclash affected him. He’s quite frustrating is Joseph. Lacks confidence

i agree and Whyte vs Parker was close anyway, i'd favour Parker in a rematch.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 27 Dec 2018, 15:30

dagilechia wrote: ↑27 Dec 2018, 15:29
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2018, 15:27 Whyte got relatively lucky against Parker. Parker was coming off defeat and the headclash affected him. He’s quite frustrating is Joseph. Lacks confidence
i agree and Whyte vs Parker was close anyway, i'd favour Parker in a rematch.

Parker will be back and better. He's only 26 and we haven't seen the best of him yet. Too talented.

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 27 Dec 2018, 15:33

parker lost to ruiz, hughie, and whyte for me, was mediocre vs cojanu, i guess i dont rate him as much as others seem to

Mexi-Box · Post by **Mexi-Box** » 27 Dec 2018, 15:35

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2018, 15:27 Parker would beat all of them on his best night apart from Fury and Joshua. Wilser would be 50/50

Whyte got relatively lucky against Parker. Parker was coming off defeat and the headclash affected him. He’s quite frustrating is Joseph. Lacks confidence

Agreed. He just lacks that extra drive/mentality to win. He's extremely frustrating because he's talented as hell, but he just doesn't want it enough. If I were him, I'd fire everyone and start from square-one again.

He has the potential to beat everyone, though.

dagilechia · Post by **dagilechia** » 27 Dec 2018, 15:37

yeah Parker had some very close fights, i had him vs:
-Takam: 115-113 Parker
-Ruiz: i have watched it twice, i had 114-114 and 115-113 Parker
-Hughie: 116-112 Parker
-Whyte: 113-112 Whyte

KiwiRider · Post by **KiwiRider** » 27 Dec 2018, 18:45

Verdi wrote: ↑27 Dec 2018, 08:36 Parker.

At the moment I see Miller as the new Butterbean. I'm happy to be proved wrong though.

Butterbean

How about Coffebean?

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 27 Dec 2018, 18:46

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 Dec 2018, 18:45
Verdi wrote: ↑27 Dec 2018, 08:36 Parker.

At the moment I see Miller as the new Butterbean. I'm happy to be proved wrong though.
Butterbean
How about Coffebean?

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