Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte in the works?

[Enlightened-One]

I’ve been reading recent rumours about Tyson Fury’s handlers allegedly speaking to Eddie Hearn about the possibility of a bout with Dillian whyte...

Assuming that Anthony Joshua is facing either Deontay Wilder or Jarrell Miller next, then would Dillian Whyte really risk the AJ mega-payday in preference to face Tyson Fury instead?

I personally doubt the rumours are true, but it’s a bout that I’d be rather excited to see, even though I’d expect Tyson Fury to score a one-sided decision victory over his fellow Brit.

Thoughts?

[oogiebe]

I’ve been reading recent rumours about Tyson Fury’s handlers allegedly speaking to Eddie Hearn about the possibility of a bout with Dillian whyte...

Assuming that Anthony Joshua is facing either Deontay Wilder or Jarrell Miller next, then would Dillian Whyte really risk the AJ mega-payday in preference to face Tyson Fury instead?

I personally doubt the rumours are true, but it’s a bout that I’d be rather excited to see, even though I’d expect Tyson Fury to score a one-sided decision victory over his fellow Brit.

Thoughts?

Nope!

[tiny_acres]

I’ve been reading recent rumours about Tyson Fury’s handlers allegedly speaking to Eddie Hearn about the possibility of a bout with Dillian whyte...

Assuming that Anthony Joshua is facing either Deontay Wilder or Jarrell Miller next, then would Dillian Whyte really risk the AJ mega-payday in preference to face Tyson Fury instead?

I personally doubt the rumours are true, but it’s a bout that I’d be rather excited to see, even though I’d expect Tyson Fury to score a one-sided decision victory over his fellow Brit.

Thoughts?

I can't see this fight happening.
The only way I would accept anyother fight for Joshua next besides Whyte. Is if it is Wilder or Fury.
And we know that is not going to happen any time soon.
Whyte has jumped through enough hoops to get the shot no matter how much most do not want to see it.
Whyte is deserving of the shot and if he doesn't get it he needs to leave Hearn.

[KiwiRider]

It's probably just a contingency plan if the Joshua Wilder fight happens.
I kinda feel for Whyte, Eddie seems to feed him to anyone willing to fight him, without his career actually going anywhere. He earned his #1 mandatory to Wilder ages ago, and his #1 to AJ not long after. Eddie must know deep down that Whyte Joshua doesn't sell.

[Lackeos]

This fight would be cool. Doesn't matter if a title is officially on the line; fans know that the winner of this fight is elite. It would be a highly lucrative fight as well, I suspect. I'd also probably prefer the Fury - Whyte match-up to the Joshua - Whyte match-up, only because it is the more unexplored of the two match-ups. We haven't seen the ideal version of Joshua - Whyte, but we've seen A version of it.

[DrDuke]

They are 2 biggest guys out there deserving a shot. However, Fury is more logical to face Wilder, while Whyte - Joshua. If they fight each other instead, it will be interesting anyway, but Whyte doesn't have much chances of winning really.

[Pukka Cheese]

Whyte - Sky + Hearn.
Fury - BT + Warren.

I dont see them working together to help the other make a big PPV so how would it work?

[Enlightened-One]

Whyte - Sky + Hearn.
Fury - BT + Warren.

I dont see them working together to help the other make a big PPV so how would it work?

For sure there are similarities between the Sky-BT situation that we previously witnessed during the HBO-Showtime “cold war”, but there are three ways in which this politically-challenging situation can be overcome:

• Tyson Fury becomes a mandatory challenger for one of AJ’s belts, with the promotion of the bout going to a purse bid, which means that the highest bidder between Eddie Hearn and Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn will gain control over the event

• BT & Sky collaborate and they both cover the PPV event. Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn and Eddie Hearn have both already stated that they’d be willing to consider exploring this option

• Queensberry and Matchroom negotiate the deal, without any intervention from external sources, as per the Saunders-Andrade bout, resulting in a mutually-beneficial agreement between both parties.

You’re right though, it’ll be a tricky fight to orchestrate, but it’s certainly feasible.

[Noxy]

It's probably just a contingency plan if the Joshua Wilder fight happens.
I kinda feel for Whyte, Eddie seems to feed him to anyone willing to fight him, without his career actually going anywhere. He earned his #1 mandatory to Wilder ages ago, and his #1 to AJ not long after. Eddie must know deep down that Whyte Joshua doesn't sell.

I think it sells better than it would have done a year ago. Whyte has firmly established himself as a top title contender and made a lot of dough. I don't think Fastcar has done too badly by him.

[StillUK]

Hmm it would be interesting if that does happen to be the case, IMO i agree with some of the other posters that it's likely just a contingency if a few other things play out.

guys I just started positing and am learning how to use this site so looking forward to getting in to some conversations going forward.

I cant seem to figure out how to start a post though?

[Enlightened-One]

It's probably just a contingency plan if the Joshua Wilder fight happens.
I kinda feel for Whyte, Eddie seems to feed him to anyone willing to fight him, without his career actually going anywhere. He earned his #1 mandatory to Wilder ages ago, and his #1 to AJ not long after. Eddie must know deep down that Whyte Joshua doesn't sell.

I think it sells better than it would have done a year ago. Whyte has firmly established himself as a top title contender and made a lot of dough. I don't think Fastcar has done too badly by him.

Dillian Whyte has already headlined three PPV events against the likes of Anthony Joshua, Joseph Parker and Dereck Chisora. He’s also appeared on the undercard of several PPV events, such as: Joshua-Breazeale, Joshua-Molina, Joshua-Takam & Crawford-Indongo. He’s also headlined his own events that were staged in London’s prestigious 02 Arena.

Put it this way, several months ago, Eddie Hearn submitted an offer in the region of $7m to $8m to Deontay Wilder to face Dillian Whyte, at a point in time when the American’s average payday was merely $1.28m.

I actually believe that if Dillian Whyte possessed ownership of the WBC belt, which Mauricio Sulaiman seems to be doing his upmost to prevent, then 'The Body Snatcher' would be included amongst the top-three commercial draws in the heavyweight division and probably within the top-five for the entire sport itself.

It seems really weird to make such a claim, because Dillian Whyte seems underappreciated by fight fans in general, but the Brit is a really big draw in the UK.

[tiny_acres]

It's probably just a contingency plan if the Joshua Wilder fight happens.
I kinda feel for Whyte, Eddie seems to feed him to anyone willing to fight him, without his career actually going anywhere. He earned his #1 mandatory to Wilder ages ago, and his #1 to AJ not long after. Eddie must know deep down that Whyte Joshua doesn't sell.

I think it sells better than it would have done a year ago. Whyte has firmly established himself as a top title contender and made a lot of dough. I don't think Fastcar has done too badly by him.

Dillian Whyte has already headlined three PPV events against the likes of Anthony Joshua, Joseph Parker and Dereck Chisora. He’s also appeared on the undercard of several PPV events, such as: Joshua-Breazeale, Joshua-Molina, Joshua-Takam & Crawford-Indongo. He’s also headlined his own events that were staged in London’s prestigious 02 Arena.

Put it this way, several months ago, Eddie Hearn submitted an offer in the region of $7m to $8m to Deontay Wilder to face Dillian Whyte, at a point in time when the American’s average payday was merely $1.28m.

I actually believe that if Dillian Whyte possessed ownership of the WBC belt, which Mauricio Sulaiman seems to be doing his upmost to prevent, then 'The Body Snatcher' would be included amongst the top-three commercial draws in the heavyweight division and probably within the top-five for the entire sport itself.

It seems really weird to make such a claim, because Dillian Whyte seems underappreciated by fight fans in general, but the Brit is a really big draw in the UK.

Out of morbid curiosity do you know what ppv numbers Whyte had whole headlining those fee events?

[Enlightened-One]

I think it sells better than it would have done a year ago. Whyte has firmly established himself as a top title contender and made a lot of dough. I don't think Fastcar has done too badly by him.

Dillian Whyte has already headlined three PPV events against the likes of Anthony Joshua, Joseph Parker and Dereck Chisora. He’s also appeared on the undercard of several PPV events, such as: Joshua-Breazeale, Joshua-Molina, Joshua-Takam & Crawford-Indongo. He’s also headlined his own events that were staged in London’s prestigious 02 Arena.

Put it this way, several months ago, Eddie Hearn submitted an offer in the region of $7m to $8m to Deontay Wilder to face Dillian Whyte, at a point in time when the American’s average payday was merely $1.28m.

I actually believe that if Dillian Whyte possessed ownership of the WBC belt, which Mauricio Sulaiman seems to be doing his upmost to prevent, then 'The Body Snatcher' would be included amongst the top-three commercial draws in the heavyweight division and probably within the top-five for the entire sport itself.

It seems really weird to make such a claim, because Dillian Whyte seems underappreciated by fight fans in general, but the Brit is a really big draw in the UK.

Out of morbid curiosity do you know what ppv numbers Whyte had whole headlining those fee events?

Whyte apparently generated 420K buys versus AJ and 474K buys against Parker. I don’t know the figures for the Chisora rematch, but my guess is around the 500K mark, even though this event clashed with the Warrington-Frampton PPV that was being televised at precisely the same time.

I could be wrong though, but my guess is based on the typical (average) Sky Box Office buys since May 2015, which is around the 690K mark, as I expect the BT PPV to cannibalise the Whyte-Chisora figure to a certain degree.

[Rob3_142]

Whyte is certainly one of the more underrated fighters in popularity. Hearn simply would not be handing him PPV headlines if he wasn't shifting buys. They only get so many a year, so he's obviously getting the nod for some reason.

In respect to the OP, I think it's hearsay and rumour and no more. I fully expect Fury and Wilder to take the rematch, and Joshua to take on Whyte. I respect Whyte's guts for taking high risk fights whilst he's waiting for the mandatory slot, but this might be a step too far.

I'm not sure where Whyte goes next if he doesn't get Wilder or Joshua next.

[tiny_acres]

Whyte is certainly one of the more underrated fighters in popularity. Hearn simply would not be handing him PPV headlines if he wasn't shifting buys. They only get so many a year, so he's obviously getting the nod for some reason.

In respect to the OP, I think it's hearsay and rumour and no more. I fully expect Fury and Wilder to take the rematch, and Joshua to take on Whyte. I respect Whyte's guts for taking high risk fights whilst he's waiting for the mandatory slot, but this might be a step too far.

I'm not sure where Whyte goes next if he doesn't get Wilder or Joshua next.

[KiwiRider]

Hmm it would be interesting if that does happen to be the case, IMO i agree with some of the other posters that it's likely just a contingency if a few other things play out.

guys I just started positing and am learning how to use this site so looking forward to getting in to some conversations going forward.

I cant seem to figure out how to start a post though?

Ahh, yeah gidday mate
I think it takes a wee while to start a thread. Not too long, a week or so. Hang in there, and enjoy

[oogiebe]

Hmm it would be interesting if that does happen to be the case, IMO i agree with some of the other posters that it's likely just a contingency if a few other things play out.

guys I just started positing and am learning how to use this site so looking forward to getting in to some conversations going forward.

I cant seem to figure out how to start a post though?

Just dive in! We're all a bunch of teddy bears! g'luck to ya!

[StillUK]

Thanks man. been reading posts on this site on the sidelines for a while, im a huge fan so thought its time to jump in!

[danconnollyeire]

I think Dillian would take it as if he won (he wouldn't but in theory), he'd see himself above AJ and Wilder as some kinda faux xhampion who beat the guy who beat Wilder (in reality) and Wlad. I can't see Fury getting out of bed for it though. It either Wilder, AJ or an easy keep busy

[Thomastearns]

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/1 ... tyson-fury

Interesting views from Whyte regarding all his main rivals, (apart from Ortiz). Looks like he's willing to face any of them.

Nothing much to disagree with there, but is he overestimating himself in his ability to adapt to the different styles they all bring?

[Enlightened-One]

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/1 ... tyson-fury

Interesting views from Whyte regarding all his main rivals, (apart from Ortiz). Looks like he's willing to face any of them.

Nothing much to disagree with there, but is he overestimating himself in his ability to adapt to the different styles they all bring?

Here's Whyte's recent comments about Luis Ortiz:

“But like I say, if Ortiz wants it, he can have it. But only if Deontay Wilder agrees to fight me next and nobody else. I’ll fight Luis Ortiz and I’ll run through him," Whyte said.

“He’s an old man, I’ll dismantle him. He’ll get tired and I’ll leave him in a bad way. A bad, bad way.”

I’d favour the Brit to outwork the Cuban and force a late stoppage.

I believe Luis Ortiz to be: a hyped-up; overrated; past-his-prime; multiple offending drug cheat; that was previously bestowed a premature honorary rite of passage to being regarded as the best heavyweight on the planet by many so-called boxing aficionados, without them requiring the need for verification by seeing the Cuban face the very best available opposition.

I don’t want to sound too harsh on the Luis Ortiz, because I don’t have any real reason to dislike him (barring testing positive for banned substances twice), but he has received an awful lot of hype from the media, such as HBO, Sky & Showtime, despite not having accomplished anything significant in the sport, coupled with delivering a few unimpressive displays over recent years, as well as being clearly older than his “official” age.

[Enlightened-One]

Dillian Whyte has already headlined three PPV events against the likes of Anthony Joshua, Joseph Parker and Dereck Chisora. He’s also appeared on the undercard of several PPV events, such as: Joshua-Breazeale, Joshua-Molina, Joshua-Takam & Crawford-Indongo. He’s also headlined his own events that were staged in London’s prestigious 02 Arena.

Put it this way, several months ago, Eddie Hearn submitted an offer in the region of $7m to $8m to Deontay Wilder to face Dillian Whyte, at a point in time when the American’s average payday was merely $1.28m.

I actually believe that if Dillian Whyte possessed ownership of the WBC belt, which Mauricio Sulaiman seems to be doing his upmost to prevent, then 'The Body Snatcher' would be included amongst the top-three commercial draws in the heavyweight division and probably within the top-five for the entire sport itself.

It seems really weird to make such a claim, because Dillian Whyte seems underappreciated by fight fans in general, but the Brit is a really big draw in the UK.

Out of morbid curiosity do you know what ppv numbers Whyte had whole headlining those fee events?

Whyte apparently generated 420K buys versus AJ and 474K buys against Parker. I don’t know the figures for the Chisora rematch, but my guess is around the 500K mark, even though this event clashed with the Warrington-Frampton PPV that was being televised at precisely the same time.

According to BARB, the Whyte-Chisora rematch has so far achieved 438K buys (i.e. based on the live viewing figures, so it excludes those that paid to watch the replay), which I personally consider to be particularly impressive, since this event clashed with the Warrington-Frampton PPV that was being televised at precisely the same time.

[boxing_rocks]

Whyte is afraid to fight Usyk. He says nobody knows who Usyk is. I bet after Usyk stopped Bellew in England, more people know who Usyk is than who Whyte is.

[oogiebe]

Whyte is afraid to fight Usyk. He says nobody knows who Usyk is. I bet after Usyk stopped Bellew in England, more people know who Usyk is than who Whyte is.

Probably.

[Rob3_142]

Whyte is afraid to fight Usyk. He says nobody knows who Usyk is. I bet after Usyk stopped Bellew in England, more people know who Usyk is than who Whyte is.

I'm not sure what you're basing that on. Whyte has headlined two PPVs and had a FOTY contender against Chisora and already locked horns with Joshua once. He's loud, English speaking and British.

Usyk has had one impressive win at cruiser against Bellew in the UK to his name. That's pretty much it.