Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Roy Jones Jr. (the version that beat John Ruiz for the title) vs. prime Michael Dokes. Did Dokes have enough hand speed to not get completely outclassed in that area by the legendary RJJ and use his larger size and strength to carry the day?
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Dokes had enough handspeed and power to catch and KO Jones, unless Roy would have been too safe to take the decision in a rational way.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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I don't see it being close. A prepared prime Dokes would've been too much for the undersized RJJ.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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No way Roy beats Michael. There were several heavys from the early 80's time period that would make Roy hesitate with their handspeed, and Dokes may have been at the top of the list. Dokes has Roy out by the 3rd round.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Nile4000 wrote: 03 Jan 2019, 17:12 No way Roy beats Michael. There were several heavys from the early 80's time period that would make Roy hesitate with their handspeed, and Dokes may have been at the top of the list. Dokes has Roy out by the 3rd round.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Dynamite Dokes stops Roy
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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I don't think we ever saw a prime dokes. Incredibly inconsistent for obvious reasons. His best performance might be holy field. Jones would take a series, so would Ruiz. The dokes evander faced probably stops both.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Onetimeonly wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 03:57 I don't think we ever saw a prime dokes. Incredibly inconsistent for obvious reasons. His best performance might be holy field. Jones would take a series, so would Ruiz. The dokes evander faced probably stops both.
You may be right, actually. I may remember Dokes more for his potential, rather than his achievements.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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oogiebe wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 11:44
Onetimeonly wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 03:57 I don't think we ever saw a prime dokes. Incredibly inconsistent for obvious reasons. His best performance might be holy field. Jones would take a series, so would Ruiz. The dokes evander faced probably stops both.
You may be right, actually. I may remember Dokes more for his potential, rather than his achievements.
What he achieved wasn't that bad, though Don King had his back.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Nile4000 wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 16:39
oogiebe wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 11:44
Onetimeonly wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 03:57 I don't think we ever saw a prime dokes. Incredibly inconsistent for obvious reasons. His best performance might be holy field. Jones would take a series, so would Ruiz. The dokes evander faced probably stops both.
You may be right, actually. I may remember Dokes more for his potential, rather than his achievements.
What he achieved wasn't that bad, though Don King had his back.
The only controversial fight of Dokes that I remember was the extremely premature stoppage over Weaver.
Was there more that my old mind doesn't remember?
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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tiny_acres wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:52
Nile4000 wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 16:39
oogiebe wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 11:44
You may be right, actually. I may remember Dokes more for his potential, rather than his achievements.
What he achieved wasn't that bad, though Don King had his back.
The only controversial fight of Dokes that I remember was the extremely premature stoppage over Weaver.
Was there more that my old mind doesn't remember?
I saw that fight and I was heartbroken, as I became a Weaver fan after his fantastic last minute KO of Big John Tate. The rematch was a dud too, a draw.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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oogiebe wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:58
tiny_acres wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:52
Nile4000 wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 16:39

What he achieved wasn't that bad, though Don King had his back.
The only controversial fight of Dokes that I remember was the extremely premature stoppage over Weaver.
Was there more that my old mind doesn't remember?
I saw that fight and I was heartbroken, as I became a Weaver fan after his fantastic last minute KO of Big John Tate. The rematch was a dud too, a draw.
One of the most premature stoppages ever.
Disgusting job by ref
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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tiny_acres wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 20:26
oogiebe wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:58
tiny_acres wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:52

The only controversial fight of Dokes that I remember was the extremely premature stoppage over Weaver.
Was there more that my old mind doesn't remember?
I saw that fight and I was heartbroken, as I became a Weaver fan after his fantastic last minute KO of Big John Tate. The rematch was a dud too, a draw.
One of the most premature stoppages ever.
Disgusting job by ref
I blame all wrong doing back then on Don King! :OhYes:
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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I would think Dokes would be too beastly for Roy Jones. I'm not sure RJJ could beat anyone who was a heavyweight champ in the 80s. Perhaps Berbick on one of his weird nights?
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Tuan_Jim wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 08:55 I would think Dokes would be too beastly for Roy Jones. I'm not sure RJJ could beat anyone who was a heavyweight champ in the 80s. Perhaps Berbick on one of his weird nights?
Motivated Dokes would walk through RJJ. "Too beastly," yes.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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tiny_acres wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:52
Nile4000 wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 16:39
oogiebe wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 11:44
You may be right, actually. I may remember Dokes more for his potential, rather than his achievements.
What he achieved wasn't that bad, though Don King had his back.
The only controversial fight of Dokes that I remember was the extremely premature stoppage over Weaver.
Was there more that my old mind doesn't remember?
The draw with ocasio was a robbery and he got a gift in the Weaver rematch.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Onetimeonly wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:42
tiny_acres wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:52
Nile4000 wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 16:39

What he achieved wasn't that bad, though Don King had his back.
The only controversial fight of Dokes that I remember was the extremely premature stoppage over Weaver.
Was there more that my old mind doesn't remember?
The draw with ocasio was a robbery and he got a gift in the Weaver rematch.
That was pretty bad scoring in the rematch, which made it a dud for me, in that another controversy. The fight itself had some really exciting rounds. Most ringside observers had it for Weaver. I'd have to rewatch the Ocasio fight to comment, as I really don't remember it.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Ocasio dominated and got robbed at home.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Onetimeonly wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 14:27 Ocasio dominated and got robbed at home.
I'll take your word for it, as I have no interest in watching. Thanks! :TU:
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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oogiebe wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 14:29
Onetimeonly wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 14:27 Ocasio dominated and got robbed at home.
I'll take your word for it, as I have no interest in watching. Thanks! :TU:
It's a good fight, just a garbage decision.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 14:42
oogiebe wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 14:29
Onetimeonly wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 14:27 Ocasio dominated and got robbed at home.
I'll take your word for it, as I have no interest in watching. Thanks! :TU:
It's a good fight, just a garbage decision.
Got it.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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tiny_acres wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:52
Nile4000 wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 16:39
oogiebe wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 11:44
You may be right, actually. I may remember Dokes more for his potential, rather than his achievements.
What he achieved wasn't that bad, though Don King had his back.
The only controversial fight of Dokes that I remember was the extremely premature stoppage over Weaver.
Was there more that my old mind doesn't remember?
As Onetimeonly mentioned, Ocasio I, though the stoppage of Lynn Ball looked kind of weird.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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Onetimeonly wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:42
tiny_acres wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:52
Nile4000 wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 16:39

What he achieved wasn't that bad, though Don King had his back.
The only controversial fight of Dokes that I remember was the extremely premature stoppage over Weaver.
Was there more that my old mind doesn't remember?
The draw with ocasio was a robbery and he got a gift in the Weaver rematch.
At Weaver rematch Dokes was rationally outboxing Weaver for the majority of the fight. I don't get, how people are so sure about Weaver being robbed, but not Dokes,
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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DrDuke wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 17:54
Onetimeonly wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:42
tiny_acres wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:52

The only controversial fight of Dokes that I remember was the extremely premature stoppage over Weaver.
Was there more that my old mind doesn't remember?
The draw with ocasio was a robbery and he got a gift in the Weaver rematch.
At Weaver rematch Dokes was rationally outboxing Weaver for the majority of the fight. I don't get, how people are so sure about Weaver being robbed, but not Dokes,
Seriously, Duke. Watch it again and score it. It was a pretty good watch so it won't suck if anything.
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Re: Roy Jones Jr. vs. Michael Dokes

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DrDuke wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 17:54
Onetimeonly wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:42
tiny_acres wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 19:52

The only controversial fight of Dokes that I remember was the extremely premature stoppage over Weaver.
Was there more that my old mind doesn't remember?
The draw with ocasio was a robbery and he got a gift in the Weaver rematch.
At Weaver rematch Dokes was rationally outboxing Weaver for the majority of the fight. I don't get, how people are so sure about Weaver being robbed, but not Dokes,
Not the fight I saw.
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