Classic fights I've watched recently

[oogiebe]

Lol, you can move on too. I'm just surprised you're so far off on a no brainer.

That's not moving on OTO...that's instigating! LMAO! And you are very good at that! lol!

[handsofstone]

Alexis Arguello vs Kevin Rooney


Arguello KOs former Mike Tyson trainer Rooney in the 2nd round of a non title fight, Arguello's first at Light Welterweight, sublime finish, the sweetest 1/2 your likely to see anywhere, Rooney come out bustling with that typical Cus peekaboo style and he was right in Arguello's face but Arguello was just immense, his quality was evident straight away, throwing and landing every shot in the book, he hurt Rooney a couple of times before the KO, hit him with some sickening left hooks to the body and stunned him with a right hand

The finish was right out of the top drawer, jab/cross right on the jaw of Rooney who was poleaxed, superb from Arguello

[handsofstone]

Jim Braddock vs Tommy Farr


Former World Heavyweight champ Braddock outpoints former title challenger Farr over 10 rounds, decent enough scrap, competitive and although I never scored it I thought Farr done enough to shade it, he was busier, worked the jab more and got in some clubbing shots from both hands to the body of Braddock and I thought Farr looked more comfortable up close, Braddock landed some sharp jabs himself and the occasional right hand, some nice uppercuts as well but overall I think Farr outhustled him

[handsofstone]

Henry Armstrong vs Barney Ross


Armstrong outpoints Ross over 15 to add the world Welterweight title to his Featherweight crown, only 20 mins of the fight available but from what I seen Armstrong won everything, he was busier, on the front foot and bullied the bigger Ross and he was always on the front foot, getting on the inside of Ross and battering away to the head and body with both hands, the longer the fight went on you could tell Ross was struggling to keep Armstrong off and he was hurt a couple of times from shots downstairs

Excellent performance from Armstrong he just wouldn't allow the much bigger Ross to manhandle him and he took the fight right to him from the start, his speed along with his sheer volume made it a long night for Ross and there was no doubt he lost his title

[chrisjs1985]

Henry Armstrong vs Barney Ross


Armstrong outpoints Ross over 15 to add the world Welterweight title to his Featherweight crown, only 20 mins of the fight available but from what I seen Armstrong won everything, he was busier, on the front foot and bullied the bigger Ross and he was always on the front foot, getting on the inside of Ross and battering away to the head and body with both hands, the longer the fight went on you could tell Ross was struggling to keep Armstrong off and he was hurt a couple of times from shots downstairs

Excellent performance from Armstrong he just wouldn't allow the much bigger Ross to manhandle him and he took the fight right to him from the start, his speed along with his sheer volume made it a long night for Ross and there was no doubt he lost his title

Amazing performance and win by Armstrong but I don't really think Ross was much bigger. Ross was a small welterweight. Both were really lightweights. Ross was undersized clearly in the McLarnin fights.

[handsofstone]

Henry Armstrong vs Barney Ross


Armstrong outpoints Ross over 15 to add the world Welterweight title to his Featherweight crown, only 20 mins of the fight available but from what I seen Armstrong won everything, he was busier, on the front foot and bullied the bigger Ross and he was always on the front foot, getting on the inside of Ross and battering away to the head and body with both hands, the longer the fight went on you could tell Ross was struggling to keep Armstrong off and he was hurt a couple of times from shots downstairs

Excellent performance from Armstrong he just wouldn't allow the much bigger Ross to manhandle him and he took the fight right to him from the start, his speed along with his sheer volume made it a long night for Ross and there was no doubt he lost his title

Amazing performance and win by Armstrong but I don't really think Ross was much bigger. Ross was a small welterweight. Both were really lightweights. Ross was undersized clearly in the McLarnin fights.

Aye I suppose your right mate, I was just amazed how small Armstrong was , he still looked like a Featherweight, incredible achievement

[Tony1244]

I watched Norton-Middleton last night.
Larry gave Ken some trouble.
Amazing the fight occurred a few months before Ali-Norton 3.
That could never happen today.

[handsofstone]

Henry Armstrong vs Ceferino Garcia 1+2


Armstrong beats Garcia by 15 round decision to retain his World Welterweight title, only 10 mins available which is sh1t and impossible to gauge how the whole fight went but from the little I seen Armstrong looked the much better fighter, he's a buzzsaw, was smaller than Garcia but he got right in his face up close and banged away with both hands, he hurt Garcia with a flurry in the 7th and the only success I seen Garcia have was in the 15th at the end when both guys traded before the bell


Garcia draws with Armstrong over 10 in the rematch in a defence of his World Middleweight title, bit if a strange one this where beforehand one of the commissions wouldn't sanction this as a defence for Garcia as title fights had to be contested over 15 and this was agreed for 10 rounds for whatever reason, it was decided Armstrong would have to KO Garcia to win the title, it ended a draw and TBH Armstrong got robbed, he was by far the better fighter, bullied the bigger Garcia again, like all Armstrong fights it was up close and fought wholly in the pocket where Armstrong battered Garcia to the body, clubbed him with right hands and short lefts on the inside and uppercuts through the middle, Garcia's best shot was the right uppercut but really Armstrong was relentless, right in his face and just kept pumping out the punches, tough night for Garcia but he kept his title and Armstrong was robbed of becoming the first 4 weight champ which was a shame

[handsofstone]

Barney Ross vs Tony Canzoneri 2


Ross outpoints Canzoneri over 15 to retain his World Lightweight and Light Welterweight titles, he'd already outpointed Canzoneri to win the titles 3 months previous but none of its available on youtube, Ross won this one comfortably for me, Canzoneri finished the stronger and had his best moments in the later stages of the fight, he was the aggressor, hands by his side which was rare for a fighter back then and he attacked in spurts, Ross for the most part was able to time the lunges of Canzoneri though and counter him with the right hand coming in, he was the more textbook of the boxers and his jab was key and a big factor in him outboxing Canzoneri, competitive fight but Ross's early work ensured he got the win in the end

[chrisjs1985]

Floyd Patterson-George Chuvalo

This was the Ring's "Fight of the Year" for 1965 but doesn't get mentioned quite as much as some other classic heavyweight fights. They fight at a good pace with Chuvalo committing to a vicious body assault and Patterson showing great offense and landing a lot of shots on Chuvalo who was made of granite. Some really great rounds of two-way action like the 8th and the 10th where they go toe-to-toe.

[handsofstone]

Max Baer vs King Levinsky 2


Baer outpoints Levinsky for the second time over 20 rounds, again with most fights of this time I had to make do with highlights but from what I seen Levinsky looked the better man, only 11 mins of the fight available so Baer could've easily deserved it but all the big shots come from Levinsky, he couldn't miss with the right hand over the top of the much taller Baer, time and again he nailed him clean with it, Baer had a little success with the jab but it was pawing and he looked slow, clumsy an wide open for the overhand right

[Ambling Alp II]

Barney Ross vs Tony Canzoneri 2


Ross outpoints Canzoneri over 15 to retain his World Lightweight and Light Welterweight titles, he'd already outpointed Canzoneri to win the titles 3 months previous but none of its available on youtube, Ross won this one comfortably for me, Canzoneri finished the stronger and had his best moments in the later stages of the fight, he was the aggressor, hands by his side which was rare for a fighter back then and he attacked in spurts, Ross for the most part was able to time the lunges of Canzoneri though and counter him with the right hand coming in, he was the more textbook of the boxers and his jab was key and a big factor in him outboxing Canzoneri, competitive fight but Ross's early work ensured he got the win in the end

Those two and McLarnin had some great fights. These guys were so skilled and gave so much effort.

[chrisjs1985]

Barney Ross vs Tony Canzoneri 2


Ross outpoints Canzoneri over 15 to retain his World Lightweight and Light Welterweight titles, he'd already outpointed Canzoneri to win the titles 3 months previous but none of its available on youtube, Ross won this one comfortably for me, Canzoneri finished the stronger and had his best moments in the later stages of the fight, he was the aggressor, hands by his side which was rare for a fighter back then and he attacked in spurts, Ross for the most part was able to time the lunges of Canzoneri though and counter him with the right hand coming in, he was the more textbook of the boxers and his jab was key and a big factor in him outboxing Canzoneri, competitive fight but Ross's early work ensured he got the win in the end

Those two and McLarnin had some great fights. These guys were so skilled and gave so much effort.

Very much so. I think all three would be top 20/25 all-time on most lists. They were that good.

[chrisjs1985]

Floyd Patterson-Jimmy Ellis

A totally unfair decision. One of Patterson’s better post Liston efforts. Close in the early rounds until Patterson starts damaging Ellis and outfights him most the way. I had Patterson up by at least three rounds. Overall it’s a good fight with Ellis hanging tough too.

[handsofstone]

Max Baer vs Primo Carnera


Baer KOs Carnera in the 11th to become World Heavyweight champ, Carnera was down multiple times en route, first knockdown in the 1st big right hand over the top caught the giant Carnera and sent him down heavily, then a massive left hook had him down almost immediately afterwards, things got messy in the 2nd as Baer went for the finish and 3 times both men wrestled each other to the canvas, Carnera was having his best spell in the 3rd settling down on the jab and regaining his senses when right at the end Baer caught him with that big right again and sent him down

Carnera seemed to settle down again after that and outbox Baer using the jab and walking him down for the next few rounds, Baer was still always dangerous though with his haymakers and clipped Carnera a couple of times, Baer had Carnera down twice more in the 10th, first a right sent Carnera staggering into the ropes before collapsing and he was down again after a follow up onslaught, Carnera bravely got up and the bell saved him from being stopped there, in the 11th Carnera was down twice more from rights before the ref stopped the slaughter, I think he was gonna let it continue but Carnera's legs dipped as he was about to carry on and thankfully it was finally over, I count that 7 knockdowns but I know people may vary but 7 legit KDs IMO, either way it was a destructive performance from Baer

[oogiebe]

Max Baer vs Primo Carnera


Baer KOs Carnera in the 11th to become World Heavyweight champ, Carnera was down multiple times en route, first knockdown in the 1st big right hand over the top caught the giant Carnera and sent him down heavily, then a massive left hook had him down almost immediately afterwards, things got messy in the 2nd as Baer went for the finish and 3 times both men wrestled each other to the canvas, Carnera was having his best spell in the 3rd settling down on the jab and regaining his senses when right at the end Baer caught him with that big right again and sent him down

Carnera seemed to settle down again after that and outbox Baer using the jab and walking him down for the next few rounds, Baer was still always dangerous though with his haymakers and clipped Carnera a couple of times, Baer had Carnera down twice more in the 10th, first a right sent Carnera staggering into the ropes before collapsing and he was down again after a follow up onslaught, Carnera bravely got up and the bell saved him from being stopped there, in the 11th Carnera was down twice more from rights before the ref stopped the slaughter, I think he was gonna let it continue but Carnera's legs dipped as he was about to carry on and thankfully it was finally over, I count that 7 knockdowns but I know people may vary but 7 legit KDs IMO, either way it was a destructive performance from Baer

Carnera won something like three rounds.

[DrDuke]

Ken Norton vs Ron Stander

A huge gap in class was being well seen from the 1st round. Norton was outboxing and battering Stander. Ron was enough tough to stand his ground, but in the 5th the fight was finally stopped, which was an absolutely logical ending after such a one-sided affair.

[DrDuke]

Ken Norton vs Scott LeDoux

A great fight. It was a pretty intense tactical affair early, majorly a battle of the jabs, and it was pretty tough to score early, however, LeDoux was edging it a bit, as for me. But Norton began to take over and took a big mid-part of the fight with being an aggressor and more effective. It's said, that in the 8th Norton was thumbed in the eye, since when he began to have sight troubles, and maybe it was a decisive factor indeed, cause since the 8th it was all LeDoux. In the 10th and final round LeDoux knocked Norton down twice and after the second KD it could have easily been scored as a TKO, while the ref acted in a strange way, as if he was to stop the fight, but then he let it continue. It was the round's end anyway, what probably saved Norton from being stopped. If to score it by rounds, it could have been a draw indeed, but if to take points from Norton for being knocked down, LeDoux should have won.

[DrDuke]

Ken Norton vs Randall Cobb

An amazing clash of styles fight. A brawler Cobb vs a boxer Norton, where Norton's declined conditions were equaling it. It was a back-and-forth action, Norton was forced to establish a defensive style fighting a lot off the ropes early, which was a sound idea, but Norton's speed and reflexes weren't the same, so often Ken was failing to be elusive enough and Cobb had success. But after Cobb's early onslaught Randy was tired and Ken became more aggressive. However, closer to the end of the fight old Norton tired himself allowing Cobb to have success again. Norton pulled out the last round with his heart and guts. I scored the bout as a draw.

[handsofstone]

Floyd Patterson-Jimmy Ellis

A totally unfair decision. One of Patterson’s better post Liston efforts. Close in the early rounds until Patterson starts damaging Ellis and outfights him most the way. I had Patterson up by at least three rounds. Overall it’s a good fight with Ellis hanging tough too.

Aye I thought Patterson probably done enough to win as well, he should've been credited with a knockdown in the 14th, Ellis probably had his best spell early doors, thought even at this stage of his their careers Patterson was still the quicker guy, Patterson was on the wrong end on too many bad decisions, the Maxim and both Quarry fights could've gone his way

[oogiebe]

Holmes-Norton

I'll say this: How no one went down in the 15th round is extraordinary! It came down who had the stronger will to win.

[chrisjs1985]

Floyd Patterson-Jimmy Ellis

A totally unfair decision. One of Patterson’s better post Liston efforts. Close in the early rounds until Patterson starts damaging Ellis and outfights him most the way. I had Patterson up by at least three rounds. Overall it’s a good fight with Ellis hanging tough too.

Aye I thought Patterson probably done enough to win as well, he should've been credited with a knockdown in the 14th, Ellis probably had his best spell early doors, thought even at this stage of his their careers Patterson was still the quicker guy, Patterson was on the wrong end on too many bad decisions, the Maxim and both Quarry fights could've gone his way

Yeah I felt he won those fights too.

[handsofstone]

Max Baer vs Tony Galento


Baer stops Galento after 7 rounds of a non title Heavyweight contest, real tough dirty fight, every rule in the book broken, head butts, low blows, rabbit punching, hitting on the break, holding and hitting you name it, they done it, Galento especially was the guiltier party, he had to make things rough against the much taller and skilful Baer, although to be to Baer he didn't mind getting his hands dirty, it was scrappy for the first few rounds and Galento done a good job of not allowing Baer to get into a rhythm, Galento just steamed in wailing away with both hands not caring about where his shots landed

The longer the fight went on even though Galento was as game as ever his work was becoming more laboured and predictable and Baer was starting to land counters with the right hand as Galento poured in, still it was a shock when Galento was pulled out on his stool after 7 rounds,

[oogiebe]

Max Baer vs Tony Galento


Baer stops Galento after 7 rounds of a non title Heavyweight contest, real tough dirty fight, every rule in the book broken, head butts, low blows, rabbit punching, hitting on the break, holding and hitting you name it, they done it, Galento especially was the guiltier party, he had to make things rough against the much taller and skilful Baer, although to be to Baer he didn't mind getting his hands dirty, it was scrappy for the first few rounds and Galento done a good job of not allowing Baer to get into a rhythm, Galento just steamed in wailing away with both hands not caring about where his shots landed

The longer the fight went on even though Galento was as game as ever his work was becoming more laboured and predictable and Baer was starting to land counters with the right hand as Galento poured in, still it was a shock when Galento was pulled out on his stool after 7 rounds,

Two Ton (a nickname not associated with his weight but for an excuse being late to a fight) Tony trained at his bar.

[handsofstone]

Max Baer vs Tony Galento


Baer stops Galento after 7 rounds of a non title Heavyweight contest, real tough dirty fight, every rule in the book broken, head butts, low blows, rabbit punching, hitting on the break, holding and hitting you name it, they done it, Galento especially was the guiltier party, he had to make things rough against the much taller and skilful Baer, although to be to Baer he didn't mind getting his hands dirty, it was scrappy for the first few rounds and Galento done a good job of not allowing Baer to get into a rhythm, Galento just steamed in wailing away with both hands not caring about where his shots landed

The longer the fight went on even though Galento was as game as ever his work was becoming more laboured and predictable and Baer was starting to land counters with the right hand as Galento poured in, still it was a shock when Galento was pulled out on his stool after 7 rounds,

Two Ton (a nickname not associated with his weight but for an excuse being late to a fight) Tony trained at his bar.

Yep Galento never looked much of a boxer, ive only seen his fights with Baer and Louis but he's a handful, fvck getting into a bar room brawl with him