Has GGG parted ways with Tom Loeffler???

[Enlightened-One]

Terrance Crawford is worth 3 million.

Forget about the rest of the fights he's competed in throughout the entirety of his career, he earned about $7m for his last two bouts alone. Your figures are wrong. You've embellished the situation, as his net worth is at least double the figure you've quoted (based on Forbes figures from November 2018).

Please do your research and revise your opinion accordingly.

The vast majority of GGG’s wealth were a direct result of events promoted by Matchroom and GBP, not Tom Loeffler.

EO, you aren’t going to make me explain the difference between net worth and earnings are you really? You claim to be so bright and cut and paste up there with some of the best but you really seem to struggle with simple terms like “founder” of a company and “net worth”. These shouldn’t be so difficult if you just took a few breaths in between hitting the buzzer on s retort. It’s not a race. We’d all appreciate you a little more if you took more time and looked up some word definition or terms.

GGG’s net worth is $30 million according to several of the net worth sites that have been proven to be accurate. You need to understand the differences between what numbers that your searching for ok. I don’t feel we should argue about this one. You just don’t know the difference between net worth and earnings. Net worth already figures in fees and payments to networks, the team and promoters. Use your head man.

I provided an article that makes a mockery of the figure you quoted. Another forum poster found their own separate source that also undermined your claims. I don't need to answer the rest of your comments, because you quoted a fictitious figure.

[Enlightened-One]

Terrance Crawford is worth 3 million. Put that into perspective when analyzing a managers performance. And just because Loeffler’s names not on the ring apron, it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t deserve credit for getting his boxer to the top level mega fight 2 years in a row.

GGG and Kovalev paved the way for a huge market for future Russian/Ukrainian talents. There’s no way Loma would be where he’s at right now without GGG creating the pathway. GGG has been one of the top paid boxers for last 2 years and everyone that contributed to his success deserves the credit. Most especially Loeffler.

So apart from understating Terence Crawford’s net wealth, are you spretending that Tom Loeffler deserves credit for the success that Sergey Kovalev and Vasyl Lomachenko gained throughout their careers?

I know deep down even you don’t believe that!

I honestly don't know enough about the topic to comment.

Caldo is pretending that (due to his affiliation with GGG), Tom Loeffler should receive credit for the success that Vasyl Lomachenko and Sergey Kovalev achieved throughout their careers, even though he actually had no dealings with them whatsoever!

He’s pretending that GGG inspired those guys, because he’s (roughly) from the same geographical region, whilst conveniently forgetting the fact that there are other Eastern European/Asian fighters that came before GGG, such as: Kostya Tzyu, Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko, Andrew Golota, Nikolay Valuev, Louis Kaplan, Benny Bass, Vic Darchinyan, Orzubek Nazarov, Artur Grigorian, Sultan Ibragimov, Vasily Jirov etc.

Basically, he’s saying that anyone affiliated to GGG, such as Tom Loeffler, should receive sh¡t loads of praise for the achievements for other fighters, even if they’ve never met those men! FFS! How stupid can you get?

[caldo2025]

The vast majority of his wealth was generated from bouts promoted by Matchroom and Golden Boy - not solely by Tom Loeffler.

Imagine what GGG’s wealth would have been had his career been handled by boxing content providers, such as Bob Arum, Al Haymon, Oscar De La Hoya or Eddie Hearn?

Terrance Crawford is worth 3 million. Put that into perspective when analyzing a managers performance. And just because Loeffler’s names not on the ring apron, it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t deserve credit for getting his boxer to the top level mega fight 2 years in a row.

GGG and Kovalev paved the way for a huge market for future Russian/Ukrainian talents. There’s no way Loma would be where he’s at right now without GGG creating the pathway. GGG has been one of the top paid boxers for last 2 years and everyone that contributed to his success deserves the credit. Most especially Loeffler.

So apart from understating Terence Crawford’s net wealth, are you pretending that Tom Loeffler deserves credit for the success that Sergey Kovalev and Vasyl Lomachenko gained throughout their careers?

I know deep down even you don’t believe that!

I’m no Loeffler die hard or anything but can we agree that GGG is the biggest Russian boxing success in America in the history of the sport? Don’t say Wladimir bc it’s not close. GGG is beloved here and his worth and demand shows this.

So how in the world could you say that Loeffler had nothing to do with it. He was part of the unthinkable here, he helped create a large fan base in a region that has never even come close to liking Russian athletes of any kind. Do you realize how hard that is? I’d go as far as to say that there’s been some genius involved It honestly. Give the guy credit that he’s due.

Ps-let’s not forget that GGG was the most avoided boxer since Mike Tyson. Loeffler still got his fighter to the top even still. Remarkable.

[Enlightened-One]

Terrance Crawford is worth 3 million. Put that into perspective when analyzing a managers performance. And just because Loeffler’s names not on the ring apron, it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t deserve credit for getting his boxer to the top level mega fight 2 years in a row.

GGG and Kovalev paved the way for a huge market for future Russian/Ukrainian talents. There’s no way Loma would be where he’s at right now without GGG creating the pathway. GGG has been one of the top paid boxers for last 2 years and everyone that contributed to his success deserves the credit. Most especially Loeffler.

So apart from understating Terence Crawford’s net wealth, are you pretending that Tom Loeffler deserves credit for the success that Sergey Kovalev and Vasyl Lomachenko gained throughout their careers?

I know deep down even you don’t believe that!

I’m no Loeffler die hard or anything but can we agree that GGG is the biggest Russian boxing success in America in the history of the sport? Don’t say Wladimir bc it’s not close. GGG is beloved here and his worth and demand shows this.

So how in the world could you say that Loeffler had nothing to do with it. He was part of the unthinkable here, he helped create a large fan base in a region that has never even come close to liking Russian athletes of any kind. Do you realize how hard that is? I’d go as far as to say that there’s been some genius involved It honestly. Give the guy credit that he’s due.

Ps-let’s not forget that GGG was the most avoided boxer since Mike Tyson. Loeffler still got his fighter to the top even still. Remarkable.

I’m not interested solely in America, since boxing is a global sport and besides (in terms of the US) there were other fighters that were (roughly) from the same geographical Eastern European/Asian region that came before GGG, such as: Kostya Tzyu, Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko, Andrew Golota, Nikolay Valuev, Louis Kaplan, Benny Bass, Vic Darchinyan, Orzubek Nazarov, Artur Grigorian, Sultan Ibragimov, Vasily Jirov etc.

And regardless, Tom Loeffler may have assisted with GGG’s career, but Gennady’s biggest bouts were promoted by Eddie Hearn and Oscar De La Hoya. You can’t pretend otherwise.

Sergey Kovalev is about the same age as GGG and actually gained his first fully-fledged world title before GGG did.

I’m sure a small part of Vasyl Lomachenko may have been inspired by GGG’s sporting success, but not due to anything Tom Loeffler has done. And because the Ukraine is only about five or six years younger than the Kazakh, he probably received more inspiration from his fellow countrymen (the Klitschko’s) or perhaps a small Eatern European fighter like Kostya Tzyu.

Tom Loeffler only speaks English anyway. He didn’t play any part in the success of the careers of Sergey Kovalev or Vasyl Lomachenko, directly or by proxy of his affiliation with GGG.

PS-let's not forget that there is no evidence of financial offers submitted by Tom Loeffler to GGG's rivals that were subsequently rejected. In order for a fighter to blatantly "duck", they have to reject the offer of the fight. If one has never been made, then there is no reason to say "NO". People have attempted to undermine this claim, but every single one of them have failed to do so, since no one can cite any evidence.

Put it this way, GGG may feel that the jockstraps sold by M&S are so comfortable, they he deems them as being essential underwear for his fights, since he refuses to compete without them. Does this mean that the person that sews the clothes together to produce these garments should be praised for the sporting accomplishments of Sergey Kovalev and Vasyl Lomachenko?

This is a serious question, since it seems you’re clearly overstating Tom Loeffler’s influence in the sport.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Like I said previously. The last 3 GGG bout we’re promoted by GGG Promotions. Founded by Golovkin. Loeffler was just running things at GGG Promotions and helping with negotiations. It’s clear that GGG had a huge day in the Canelo rematch negotiations.

It’s not like Golovkin was under contract to 360 Promotions and Loeffler was promoting him. Last time that happened was before Golovkin’s contract expired with K2 Promotions (Tom was Head of K2)..

I think Golovkin’s last fight with K2 was the first Canelo fight.

Let’s be honest, any K2/GGG Promotions ONLY cards, never paid GGG close to $2m.. he only got more when it was co-promotions. Like GBP or Matchroom.

[dickbelden]

net worth of GGG https://www.celebritynetworth.com/riche ... net-worth/

net worth of terence crawford https://www.celebritynetworth.com/riche ... net-worth/

[Enlightened-One]

Like I said previously. The last 3 GGG bout we’re promoted by GGG Promotions. Founded by Golovkin. Loeffler was just running things at GGG Promotions and helping with negotiations. It’s clear that GGG had a huge day in the Canelo rematch negotiations.

It’s not like Golovkin was under contract to 360 Promotions and Loeffler was promoting him. Last time that happened was before Golovkin’s contract expired with K2 Promotions (Tom was Head of K2)..

I think Golovkin’s last fight with K2 was the first Canelo fight.

Let’s be honest, any K2/GGG Promotions ONLY cards, never paid GGG close to $2m.. he only got more when it was co-promotions. Like GBP or Matchroom.

Out of interest, I wonder if you can help me…

What I don’t get is Caldo’s assertion that Vasyl Lomachenko and Sergey Kovalev owe a huge debt of gratitude to Tom Loeffler, due to the way he promoted GGG’s career?

As far as I’m concerned, Tom Loeffler has never been involved in the careers of Vasyl Lomachenko or Sergey Kovalev.

You’re particularly bright, perhaps you can help me understand the logic?

I mean, Tom Loeffler can only speak English and he wasn’t the main promoter for GGG’s biggest bouts and nor did he make that many attempts to orchestrate fights by submitting financial offers to Golovkin’s big-name rivals, instead he waited for other promoters to make the first move.

[Ruthless-RKO]

What I don’t get is Caldo’s assertion that Vasyl Lomachenko and Sergey Kovalev owe a huge debt of gratitude to Tom Loeffler, due to the way he promoted GGG’s career?

As far as I’m concerned, Tom Loeffler has never been involved in the careers of Vasyl Lomachenko or Sergey Kovalev.

Lmfao! WTF has Loeffler got to do with Loma and Kov?

The only link between GGG and Kov I can think of is the fact that Abel Sanchez trained them both. I don’t think there is any link between Loma and Loeffler.

[Enlightened-One]

What I don’t get is Caldo’s assertion that Vasyl Lomachenko and Sergey Kovalev owe a huge debt of gratitude to Tom Loeffler, due to the way he promoted GGG’s career?

As far as I’m concerned, Tom Loeffler has never been involved in the careers of Vasyl Lomachenko or Sergey Kovalev.

Lmfao! WTF has Loeffler got to do with Loma and Kov?

The only link between GGG and Kov I can think of is the fact that Abel Sanchez trained them both. I don’t think there is any link between Loma and Loeffler.

Read Caldo's words. I spat my drink out with laughter when I read them. I don't mind but he tried his hardest to defend his claims, but I think he's finally realised how futile his efforts are, since no one supports him on this.

[caldo2025]

So apart from understating Terence Crawford’s net wealth, are you pretending that Tom Loeffler deserves credit for the success that Sergey Kovalev and Vasyl Lomachenko gained throughout their careers?

I know deep down even you don’t believe that!

I’m no Loeffler die hard or anything but can we agree that GGG is the biggest Russian boxing success in America in the history of the sport? Don’t say Wladimir bc it’s not close. GGG is beloved here and his worth and demand shows this.

So how in the world could you say that Loeffler had nothing to do with it. He was part of the unthinkable here, he helped create a large fan base in a region that has never even come close to liking Russian athletes of any kind. Do you realize how hard that is? I’d go as far as to say that there’s been some genius involved It honestly. Give the guy credit that he’s due.

Ps-let’s not forget that GGG was the most avoided boxer since Mike Tyson. Loeffler still got his fighter to the top even still. Remarkable.

I’m not interested solely in America, since boxing is a global sport and besides (in terms of the US) there were other fighters that were (roughly) from the same geographical Eastern European/Asian region that came before GGG, such as: Kostya Tzyu, Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko, Andrew Golota, Nikolay Valuev, Louis Kaplan, Benny Bass, Vic Darchinyan, Orzubek Nazarov, Artur Grigorian, Sultan Ibragimov, Vasily Jirov etc.

And regardless, Tom Loeffler may have assisted with GGG’s career, but Gennady’s biggest bouts were promoted by Eddie Hearn and Oscar De La Hoya. You can’t pretend otherwise.

Sergey Kovalev is about the same age as GGG and actually gained his first fully-fledged world title before GGG did.

I’m sure a small part of Vasyl Lomachenko may have been inspired by GGG’s sporting success, but not due to anything Tom Loeffler has done. And because the Ukraine is only about five or six years younger than the Kazakh, he probably received more inspiration from his fellow countrymen (the Klitschko’s) or perhaps a small Eatern European fighter like Kostya Tzyu.

Tom Loeffler only speaks English anyway. He didn’t play any part in the success of the careers of Sergey Kovalev or Vasyl Lomachenko, directly or by proxy of his affiliation with GGG.

PS-let's not forget that there is no evidence of financial offers submitted by Tom Loeffler to GGG's rivals that were subsequently rejected. In order for a fighter to blatantly "duck", they have to reject the offer of the fight. If one has never been made, then there is no reason to say "NO". People have attempted to undermine this claim, but every single one of them have failed to do so, since no one can cite any evidence.

Put it this way, GGG may feel that the jockstraps sold by M&S are so comfortable, they he deems them as being essential underwear for his fights, since he refuses to compete without them. Does this mean that the person that sews the clothes together to produce these garments should be praised for the sporting accomplishments of Sergey Kovalev and Vasyl Lomachenko?

This is a serious question, since it seems you’re clearly overstating Tom Loeffler’s influence in the sport.

Obviously, there have been pro boxers from the same geographic area before but your argument loses all merit if you can't recognize the true success of GGG's career and the fan base that he's acquired from absolutely everywhere. He's a household name here in the states. He's done commercials in prime time for Nike on American TV.

You Russians can't stand America and I understand why and how but you also can't argue that the top of the sport of Boxing, almost every boxers goal and i don't care where you're from, is to fight in Las Vegas on a PPV Event in front of the world. That's "making it" in Boxing. If you don't know that then i can't help you. GGG's done it twice. He's been to the very top and you can't go any further than that. No one on your list has even come close to reaching these marks that GGG has so it's honestly no comparison whatsoever. GGG is the VERY first Russian Boxer....never mind Boxer... he's the VERY FIRST RUSSIAN ATHLETE that has crossed over and become marketable on Madison Avenue.

That's Number one.

Number two...because of your hard on for this guy Loeffler for some reason, you think that GGG succeeded IN SPITE of the poor job that Loeffler did? Before almost every GGG fight on HBO, we've heard from Loeffler. He's been with GGG all of the way so to be so ignorant as to discredit because of a personal feeling towards someone that you have never met and who couldn't care less about you, you think that you have the facts in hand to dictate how much credit GGG"s whole team has in the totality of his success?

That's ridiculous man. Loeffler was by this guys side from the start before he ended up being the greatest Russian fighter in history but you don't think that he deserves credit of any kind. That's rich. You have done lost your marble son. I think we can stop here because you're mad. Did Loeffler bang your Mom and not call her after or something? This is a strange soap box to be on for years. You should see someone about it.

[caldo2025]

What I don’t get is Caldo’s assertion that Vasyl Lomachenko and Sergey Kovalev owe a huge debt of gratitude to Tom Loeffler, due to the way he promoted GGG’s career?

As far as I’m concerned, Tom Loeffler has never been involved in the careers of Vasyl Lomachenko or Sergey Kovalev.

Lmfao! WTF has Loeffler got to do with Loma and Kov?

The only link between GGG and Kov I can think of is the fact that Abel Sanchez trained them both. I don’t think there is any link between Loma and Loeffler.

Do you goons even watch the sport? How many PPV fights in Vegas or NYC were Russian Boxers doing prior to GGG and Kovalev? These two have clearly paved the way for the others. If you don't see that then you and EO should just put Loeffler's picture up in EO's Mom's Basement and throw some darts at it tonight and have fun. I'm fairly certain that you guys can't read well and to compound the issue, you can't understand simple topics.

So you are saying that Lomachenko hasn't benefited from any of GGG's success in main stream? Like None? What am i doing wasting my time responding to idiots. I swore i'd stop doing it but you keep pulling me back in because your stupidity actually shocks me to tell you the truth.

[Ruthless-RKO]

And regardless, Tom Loeffler may have assisted with GGG’s career, but Gennady’s biggest bouts were promoted by Eddie Hearn and Oscar De La Hoya. You can’t pretend otherwise.

Sergey Kovalev is about the same age as GGG and actually gained his first fully-fledged world title before GGG did.

Imagine GGG didn’t go down that shïtty WBA route.

Universum were screwing him as well.

And yes.. whilst K2/GGG co-promoted the big events.. they were:

Matchroom Boxing/GBP in association with K2/GGG Promotions.

[Ruthless-RKO]

What I don’t get is Caldo’s assertion that Vasyl Lomachenko and Sergey Kovalev owe a huge debt of gratitude to Tom Loeffler, due to the way he promoted GGG’s career?

As far as I’m concerned, Tom Loeffler has never been involved in the careers of Vasyl Lomachenko or Sergey Kovalev.

Lmfao! WTF has Loeffler got to do with Loma and Kov?

The only link between GGG and Kov I can think of is the fact that Abel Sanchez trained them both. I don’t think there is any link between Loma and Loeffler.

Do you goons even watch the sport? How many PPV fights in Vegas or NYC were Russian Boxers doing prior to GGG and Kovalev? These two have clearly paved the way for the others. If you don't see that then you and EO should just put Loeffler's picture up in EO's Mom's Basement and throw some darts at it tonight and have fun. I'm fairly certain that you guys can't read well and to compound the issue, you can't understand simple topics.

So you are saying that Lomachenko hasn't benefited from any of GGG's success in main stream? Like None? What am i doing wasting my time responding to idiots. I swore i'd stop doing it but you keep pulling me back in because your stupidity actually shocks me to tell you the truth.

Doesn’t matter where you come from.. success is also calculated on who guides your career or promotes it.

[oogiebe]

What I don’t get is Caldo’s assertion that Vasyl Lomachenko and Sergey Kovalev owe a huge debt of gratitude to Tom Loeffler, due to the way he promoted GGG’s career?

As far as I’m concerned, Tom Loeffler has never been involved in the careers of Vasyl Lomachenko or Sergey Kovalev.

Lmfao! WTF has Loeffler got to do with Loma and Kov?

The only link between GGG and Kov I can think of is the fact that Abel Sanchez trained them both. I don’t think there is any link between Loma and Loeffler.

Do you goons even watch the sport? How many PPV fights in Vegas or NYC were Russian Boxers doing prior to GGG and Kovalev? These two have clearly paved the way for the others. If you don't see that then you and EO should just put Loeffler's picture up in EO's Mom's Basement and throw some darts at it tonight and have fun. I'm fairly certain that you guys can't read well and to compound the issue, you can't understand simple topics.

So you are saying that Lomachenko hasn't benefited from any of GGG's success in main stream? Like None? What am i doing wasting my time responding to idiots. I swore i'd stop doing it but you keep pulling me back in because your stupidity actually shocks me to tell you the truth.

If you're talking about paving the road, then you need to mention Wlad Klitchko. Before he was on the scene, there was no place for Eastern European boxers on the US and even Western European markets. They were considered boring to be frank. Too mechanical. Couldn't draw. So in that regard, the road was opened by Klitchko and paved by GGG. How's that?

Dos Vidanya (sp?) LOL!

[caldo2025]

Forget about the rest of the fights he's competed in throughout the entirety of his career, he earned about $7m for his last two bouts alone. Your figures are wrong. You've embellished the situation, as his net worth is at least double the figure you've quoted (based on Forbes figures from November 2018).

Please do your research and revise your opinion accordingly.

The vast majority of GGG’s wealth were a direct result of events promoted by Matchroom and GBP, not Tom Loeffler.

EO, you aren’t going to make me explain the difference between net worth and earnings are you really? You claim to be so bright and cut and paste up there with some of the best but you really seem to struggle with simple terms like “founder” of a company and “net worth”. These shouldn’t be so difficult if you just took a few breaths in between hitting the buzzer on s retort. It’s not a race. We’d all appreciate you a little more if you took more time and looked up some word definition or terms.

GGG’s net worth is $30 million according to several of the net worth sites that have been proven to be accurate. You need to understand the differences between what numbers that your searching for ok. I don’t feel we should argue about this one. You just don’t know the difference between net worth and earnings. Net worth already figures in fees and payments to networks, the team and promoters. Use your head man.

I provided an article that makes a mockery of the figure you quoted. Another forum poster found their own separate source that also undermined your claims. I don't need to answer the rest of your comments, because you quoted a fictitious figure.

Here you go Moron:

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/riche ... net-worth/


Oh here's another one idiot:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/ ... arn-salary

Here's another one crackhead:
https://www.forbes.com/profile/gennady- ... 717a3b534f


Seriously? Those are the first 3 that even come up on Google. Are you high?

[ewenhay]

Caldo has a point in this one.

Loeffler deserves a lot of credit for Golovkin's career. It's disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Are we really saying that the guys who support fighters during the tough times and during the learning process on the way up mean nothing just because a richer promoter swoops in at the end and offers a few career high paydays?

[oogiebe]

Caldo has a point in this one.

Loeffler deserves a lot of credit for Golovkin's career. It's disingenuous to suggest otherwise. Are we really saying that the guys who support fighters during the tough times and during the learning process on the way up mean nothing just because a richer promoter swoops in at the end and offers a few career high paydays?

Like Rocky with Tommy "Machine" Gunn. Just saying...

[Enlightened-One]

EO, you aren’t going to make me explain the difference between net worth and earnings are you really? You claim to be so bright and cut and paste up there with some of the best but you really seem to struggle with simple terms like “founder” of a company and “net worth”. These shouldn’t be so difficult if you just took a few breaths in between hitting the buzzer on s retort. It’s not a race. We’d all appreciate you a little more if you took more time and looked up some word definition or terms.

GGG’s net worth is $30 million according to several of the net worth sites that have been proven to be accurate. You need to understand the differences between what numbers that your searching for ok. I don’t feel we should argue about this one. You just don’t know the difference between net worth and earnings. Net worth already figures in fees and payments to networks, the team and promoters. Use your head man.

I provided an article that makes a mockery of the figure you quoted. Another forum poster found their own separate source that also undermined your claims. I don't need to answer the rest of your comments, because you quoted a fictitious figure.

Here you go Moron:

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/riche ... net-worth/


Oh here's another one idiot:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/ ... arn-salary

Here's another one crackhead:
https://www.forbes.com/profile/gennady- ... 717a3b534f


Seriously? Those are the first 3 that even come up on Google. Are you high?

You possess the sheer audacity of calling me a fûckîng idiot, but I only challenged the bûllshît figure you supplied about Terence Crawford.

In fact three other forum members provided their own links to this thread to articles they found that supported my stance.

Don’t be a fûckîng cûnt and lie to the forum by pretending you’ve proven me wrong, when all you’ve fûckîng proved is that you can’t read!

You lied and have chosen to dishonesty employ red herring debating tactics to distract the reader from discovering the nonsense you’ve written!

Quote my post that challenges your assertion about GGG’s net wealth.

If you can’t, then admit to the forum that you’re a lying cûnt and shut the fûck up!

Come on kiddo, I dare you to try harder and prove me wrong!

FFS! You claim that Vasyl Lomachenko and Sergey Kovalev both owe a huge debt of gratitude to Tom Loeffler, even though that promoter never worked with those men! I doubt he even spoke to them, other than saying “hi”, because Loeffler only speaks English.

Jesus fûckîng Christ! Are you not embarrassed?

I’m actually really looking forward, no excited, to read your reply, because you shouldn’t argue with someone if you can’t read!

[boxing_rocks]

Lmfao! WTF has Loeffler got to do with Loma and Kov?

The only link between GGG and Kov I can think of is the fact that Abel Sanchez trained them both. I don’t think there is any link between Loma and Loeffler.

Do you goons even watch the sport? How many PPV fights in Vegas or NYC were Russian Boxers doing prior to GGG and Kovalev? These two have clearly paved the way for the others. If you don't see that then you and EO should just put Loeffler's picture up in EO's Mom's Basement and throw some darts at it tonight and have fun. I'm fairly certain that you guys can't read well and to compound the issue, you can't understand simple topics.

So you are saying that Lomachenko hasn't benefited from any of GGG's success in main stream? Like None? What am i doing wasting my time responding to idiots. I swore i'd stop doing it but you keep pulling me back in because your stupidity actually shocks me to tell you the truth.

If you're talking about paving the road, then you need to mention Wlad Klitchko. Before he was on the scene, there was no place for Eastern European boxers on the US and even Western European markets. They were considered boring to be frank. Too mechanical. Couldn't draw. So in that regard, the road was opened by Klitchko and paved by GGG. How's that?

Dos Vidanya (sp?) LOL!

Don't forget Kostya and Vasily Jirov.

It is Russian, not Spanish: Do Svidanya.

[oogiebe]

If you're talking about paving the road, then you need to mention Wlad Klitchko. Before he was on the scene, there was no place for Eastern European boxers on the US and even Western European markets. They were considered boring to be frank. Too mechanical. Couldn't draw. So in that regard, the road was opened by Klitchko and paved by GGG. How's that?

Dos Vidanya (sp?) LOL!

Don't forget Kostya and Vasily Jirov.

It is Russian, not Spanish: Do Svidanya.

At least you knew what I meant! LOL!

[candyslim]

Hopefully this is good for GGG and for boxing fans.

[Deleted_Scenes]

EO, you aren’t going to make me explain the difference between net worth and earnings are you really? You claim to be so bright and cut and paste up there with some of the best but you really seem to struggle with simple terms like “founder” of a company and “net worth”. These shouldn’t be so difficult if you just took a few breaths in between hitting the buzzer on s retort. It’s not a race. We’d all appreciate you a little more if you took more time and looked up some word definition or terms.

GGG’s net worth is $30 million according to several of the net worth sites that have been proven to be accurate. You need to understand the differences between what numbers that your searching for ok. I don’t feel we should argue about this one. You just don’t know the difference between net worth and earnings. Net worth already figures in fees and payments to networks, the team and promoters. Use your head man.

I provided an article that makes a mockery of the figure you quoted. Another forum poster found their own separate source that also undermined your claims. I don't need to answer the rest of your comments, because you quoted a fictitious figure.

Here you go Moron:

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/riche ... net-worth/


Oh here's another one idiot:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/ ... arn-salary

Here's another one crackhead:
https://www.forbes.com/profile/gennady- ... 717a3b534f


Seriously? Those are the first 3 that even come up on Google. Are you high?

I'd think twice before using the express as a source. It's a rag with a well earned reputation for making shít up as they go along.

Pretty much the worst 'newspaper' you can buy in Britain, with close competition from the sun, star and mail.

If they get something right, it's usually by accident.

[caldo2025]

I provided an article that makes a mockery of the figure you quoted. Another forum poster found their own separate source that also undermined your claims. I don't need to answer the rest of your comments, because you quoted a fictitious figure.

Here you go Moron:

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/riche ... net-worth/


Oh here's another one idiot:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/ ... arn-salary

Here's another one crackhead:
https://www.forbes.com/profile/gennady- ... 717a3b534f


Seriously? Those are the first 3 that even come up on Google. Are you high?

I'd think twice before using the express as a source. It's a rag with a well earned reputation for making shít up as they go along.

Pretty much the worst 'newspaper' you can buy in Britain, with close competition from the sun, star and mail.

If they get something right, it's usually by accident.

I just picked out the first few links with one of them being Forbes which is quality. Making EO look stupid is getting too easy. Like beating up a blind kid.

[caldo2025]

I provided an article that makes a mockery of the figure you quoted. Another forum poster found their own separate source that also undermined your claims. I don't need to answer the rest of your comments, because you quoted a fictitious figure.

Here you go Moron:

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/riche ... net-worth/


Oh here's another one idiot:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/ ... arn-salary

Here's another one crackhead:
https://www.forbes.com/profile/gennady- ... 717a3b534f


Seriously? Those are the first 3 that even come up on Google. Are you high?

You possess the sheer audacity of calling me a fûckîng idiot, but I only challenged the bûllshît figure you supplied about Terence Crawford.

In fact three other forum members provided their own links to this thread to articles they found that supported my stance.

Don’t be a fûckîng cûnt and lie to the forum by pretending you’ve proven me wrong, when all you’ve fûckîng proved is that you can’t read!

You lied and have chosen to dishonesty employ red herring debating tactics to distract the reader from discovering the nonsense you’ve written!

Quote my post that challenges your assertion about GGG’s net wealth.

If you can’t, then admit to the forum that you’re a lying cûnt and shut the fûck up!

Come on kiddo, I dare you to try harder and prove me wrong!

FFS! You claim that Vasyl Lomachenko and Sergey Kovalev both owe a huge debt of gratitude to Tom Loeffler, even though that promoter never worked with those men! I doubt he even spoke to them, other than saying “hi”, because Loeffler only speaks English.

Jesus fûckîng Christ! Are you not embarrassed?

I’m actually really looking forward, no excited, to read your reply, because you shouldn’t argue with someone if you can’t read!

Dude, are you a little Downsy? Be honest as I’d never insult a person mentally handicapped.

#1- Find where I said that GGG paved the way for KOVALEV. TRY TO FIND IT HERE OR ELSEWHERE. You can’t. Wanna know why? Because I never said and you just prove the ignorance that your reputation has always called for by proving that you don’t even read the other posts that you are conversing with. What’s the point of even doing this with you?

#2. I supplied you with GGG’s net worth and proof to back the estimated figures. You claimed he was worth less than that but I proved that you’re wrong.

So where would you like to take this? What am I missing here? You’re not showing the ref enough this round so he’s gotta stop the fight. You call me a c”nt for owning you for the 3rd straight issue and that’s equivalent to leaving the ring before the post fight interviews. It’s low class, but low class is an upgrade for your less than stellar history here.

[Enlightened-One]

Here you go Moron:

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/riche ... net-worth/


Oh here's another one idiot:
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/ ... arn-salary

Here's another one crackhead:
https://www.forbes.com/profile/gennady- ... 717a3b534f


Seriously? Those are the first 3 that even come up on Google. Are you high?

You possess the sheer audacity of calling me a fûckîng idiot, but I only challenged the bûllshît figure you supplied about Terence Crawford.

In fact three other forum members provided their own links to this thread to articles they found that supported my stance.

Don’t be a fûckîng cûnt and lie to the forum by pretending you’ve proven me wrong, when all you’ve fûckîng proved is that you can’t read!

You lied and have chosen to dishonesty employ red herring debating tactics to distract the reader from discovering the nonsense you’ve written!

Quote my post that challenges your assertion about GGG’s net wealth.

If you can’t, then admit to the forum that you’re a lying cûnt and shut the fûck up!

Come on kiddo, I dare you to try harder and prove me wrong!

FFS! You claim that Vasyl Lomachenko and Sergey Kovalev both owe a huge debt of gratitude to Tom Loeffler, even though that promoter never worked with those men! I doubt he even spoke to them, other than saying “hi”, because Loeffler only speaks English.

Jesus fûckîng Christ! Are you not embarrassed?

I’m actually really looking forward, no excited, to read your reply, because you shouldn’t argue with someone if you can’t read!

Dude, are you a little Downsy? Be honest as I’d never insult a person mentally handicapped.

#1- Find where I said that GGG paved the way for KOVALEV. TRY TO FIND IT HERE OR ELSEWHERE. You can’t. Wanna know why? Because I never said and you just prove the ignorance that your reputation has always called for by proving that you don’t even read the other posts that you are conversing with. What’s the point of even doing this with you?

#2. I supplied you with GGG’s net worth and proof to back the estimated figures. You claimed he was worth less than that but I proved that you’re wrong.

So where would you like to take this? What am I missing here? You’re not showing the ref enough this round so he’s gotta stop the fight. You call me a c”nt for owning you for the 3rd straight issue and that’s equivalent to leaving the ring before the post fight interviews. It’s low class, but low class is an upgrade for your less than stellar history here.

YOU CANNOT FÛCKÎNG READ! YOU ARE ARGUING OVER CERTAIN POINTS THAT I NEVER BOTHERED TO ARGUE WITH!!!

QUOTE MY FÛCKÎNG WORDS IN FUTURE. AS IT’LL PROVE YOU’RE CHALLENGING SOMETHING I’VE ACTUALLY SAID!!!

TWO QUICK REPLIES THOUGH:

TOM LOEFFLER HAD ABSOLUTELY FÛCK ALL TO DO WITH THE SUCCESS THAT VASYL LOMACHENKO AND SERGEY KOVALEV GAINED DURING THEIR CAREERS. DON’T FÛCKÎNG PRETEND THAT YOU CLAIMED OTHERWISE, BECAUSE I CAN QUOTE YOUR FÛCKÎNG HIDEOUSLY MÔRÔNÎC WORDS!!!

ALSO, YOU CITED FÛCKÎNG BÛLLSHÎT FIGURES RELATED TO TERENCE CRAWFORD’S NET WORTH. FOUR FÛCKÎNG FORUM POSTERS DEBUNKED YOUR FÛCKÎNG STUPID CLAIMS!

YOU KEEP AGRESSIVELY CITING GGG’S NET WEALTH, BUT I’VE NEVER COMMENTED ON IT. SO WHO THE FÛCK ARE YOU ARGUING WITH? DON’T QUOTE THESE FIGURES TO ME EVER AGAIN, BECAUSE I’M NOT FÛCKÎNG INTERESTED, SINCE YOU’RE CLEARLY DEBATING WITH A FIGMENT OF YOUR IMAGINATION!!!

FINALLY, LEARN TO FÛCKÎNG READ YOU THICK TWÀT! YOU IGNORE WHAT PEOPLE SAY AND START ARGUING AGAINST THINGS THAT NOBODY FÛCKÎNG MENTIONED!

IF YOU THINK I’M WRONG ABOUT THIS, THEN QUOTE MY FÛCKÎNG WORDS, YOU ILLITERATE TWÀT!