Usyk vs Povetkin/Ortiz/Lebedev

[Mexi-Box]

lol, ya sure, the same expert who was utterly shocked warrington could beat frampton

like i said kid, its okay, we all get them wrong, just like you butchered ito vs chupra too. im sure there are plenty more youve gone wrong and also plenty youve got right. thats the game kid. i will never deny that its the same way for me too

lol, styles make fights is such a cop out here, there is nothing in lebs style that is making him tough for usyk right now. its a shutout / late stoppage job

As I said, I can be perfect in my predictions too if I pussy-foot around like you do with them. Yeah, saying "oh, they both looked good and I like so-and-so fighter" is now putting it all out there. Yeah, that's what is absolutely hilarious. As I said, you don't do anything but favor the favorite and pussyfoot around 50-50 fights. That's what's hilarious about you trying to up yourself.

Lebedev is a hard-hitting, athletic fighter. Usyk is typically bothered by fighters like that. You don't understand styles make fights because you know dick about boxing. He schools slow plodders like Ortiz.

As I said, Povetkin is the toughest guy on that list, Lebedev is second, and Ortiz gets stomped.

[oogiebe]

Stylistically, it isn't. What makes Ortiz tough? He's slow, hittable, and gasses at a slow pace. How does that equate to being a tough fight to someone who has an iron chin, is one of the most athletic boxers currently, and has p4p defense? Usyk fought and beat better HW's than Ortiz in WSB.

WSB was six or so years ago! Are you going by Usyk over a very inexperienced Joyce?!! Ortiz would have 30 LBS or so over Usyk, but he's crafty with all kinds of experience and still can smack. You love these old and fading fighters (Korabov/Lebidev) and then you diss Ortiz. Boy I can't figure you out at all. Usyk needs a relatively easy first fight at HW to see how it feels. Anyway, You'll see once his first match is set.

You act like Joyce was the only fighter Usyk schooled.

Ortiz has 30 lbs. of fat on his old bones. I know talent when I see it. Korobov and Lebedev are leagues more talented than Ortiz.

Ortiz has a thin resume. He's living off his win over Jennings ages ago. Take out that win over Jennings and who is Ortiz's best win, Malik Scott (who Chisora beat)? He's not been fighting on the same level as Pulev or even Whyte. Fanboys are the ones that seem all over Ortiz when he's done nothing other than get stopped by Wilder. Somehow that's more impressive than a CW who is arguably still undefeated and was the #1 at one point. Can you say the same about Ortiz? He was never close to the #1 HW.

Stop acting like a fanboy and act like a boxing fan.

Wow...you really are quite emotional...

[Mexi-Box]

WSB was six or so years ago! Are you going by Usyk over a very inexperienced Joyce?!! Ortiz would have 30 LBS or so over Usyk, but he's crafty with all kinds of experience and still can smack. You love these old and fading fighters (Korabov/Lebidev) and then you diss Ortiz. Boy I can't figure you out at all. Usyk needs a relatively easy first fight at HW to see how it feels. Anyway, You'll see once his first match is set.

You act like Joyce was the only fighter Usyk schooled.

Ortiz has 30 lbs. of fat on his old bones. I know talent when I see it. Korobov and Lebedev are leagues more talented than Ortiz.

Ortiz has a thin resume. He's living off his win over Jennings ages ago. Take out that win over Jennings and who is Ortiz's best win, Malik Scott (who Chisora beat)? He's not been fighting on the same level as Pulev or even Whyte. Fanboys are the ones that seem all over Ortiz when he's done nothing other than get stopped by Wilder. Somehow that's more impressive than a CW who is arguably still undefeated and was the #1 at one point. Can you say the same about Ortiz? He was never close to the #1 HW.

Stop acting like a fanboy and act like a boxing fan.

Wow...you really are quite emotional...

If you feel that way about what I wrote, go ahead. Nothing I can really say as this is all a written word.

[oogiebe]

You act like Joyce was the only fighter Usyk schooled.

Ortiz has 30 lbs. of fat on his old bones. I know talent when I see it. Korobov and Lebedev are leagues more talented than Ortiz.

Ortiz has a thin resume. He's living off his win over Jennings ages ago. Take out that win over Jennings and who is Ortiz's best win, Malik Scott (who Chisora beat)? He's not been fighting on the same level as Pulev or even Whyte. Fanboys are the ones that seem all over Ortiz when he's done nothing other than get stopped by Wilder. Somehow that's more impressive than a CW who is arguably still undefeated and was the #1 at one point. Can you say the same about Ortiz? He was never close to the #1 HW.

Stop acting like a fanboy and act like a boxing fan.

Wow...you really are quite emotional...

If you feel that way about what I wrote, go ahead. Nothing I can really say as this is all a written word.

I just things got a little out of hand. Some folks just don't agree, so what? If we all agreed, the forum would suck. Yes?

[jamamb]

lol, ya sure, the same expert who was utterly shocked warrington could beat frampton

like i said kid, its okay, we all get them wrong, just like you butchered ito vs chupra too. im sure there are plenty more youve gone wrong and also plenty youve got right. thats the game kid. i will never deny that its the same way for me too

lol, styles make fights is such a cop out here, there is nothing in lebs style that is making him tough for usyk right now. its a shutout / late stoppage job

As I said, I can be perfect in my predictions too if I pussy-foot around like you do with them. Yeah, saying "oh, they both looked good and I like so-and-so fighter" is now putting it all out there. Yeah, that's what is absolutely hilarious. As I said, you don't do anything but favor the favorite and pussyfoot around 50-50 fights. That's what's hilarious about you trying to up yourself.

Lebedev is a hard-hitting, athletic fighter. Usyk is typically bothered by fighters like that. You don't understand styles make fights because you know dick about boxing. He schools slow plodders like Ortiz.

As I said, Povetkin is the toughest guy on that list, Lebedev is second, and Ortiz gets stomped.

lol nah, you could never be perfect in your predictions, as weve all seen

lebs not hitting all that hard these days, hasnt been sharp or fast or stopping weak opponents like mark flanagan or mike wilson, usyk easily deals with anything he has to offer.

[morm]

i want see Usyk vs Lebedev, and than next white Povetkin ... all this year

[Pukka Cheese]

Usyk needs a relatively easy first fight at HW to see how it feels.

How does he sell that to the UK though?
Noone wants to see him brain damage Dave Allen or dance circles around Chisora. Maybe he can murder big Pricey...
An 'easy fight' against a foreigner outside of the top 20 would be even worse.

I want to see Usyk take a big shot, from a top10 hw.... And happy to pay to see it

[candyslim]

The thing is most fights at heavyweight are easy fights for Usyk ... most but not all

[Enlightened-One]

Which one do you want to see most and how to do you see them going?
I think Lebedev would obviously be easiest but the other two are very tough debut's at heavyweight. He's obviously got the speed and stamina advantage but Ortiz has that size, and Povetkin has that skill and experience at Heavweight, and Pov has only lost when he's been significantly outsized.

Also, it would've been stupid for Parker to accept it in my opinion, Usyk does everything Parker does but better and Parker needs to rebuild and try some new things before challenging a very high level opponent again. Miller just turned down another fight...

A bout between Usyk and Povetkin is more likely than any of the other heavyweights mentioned in this tweet,.

Joseph Parker wasn’t offered the fight. According to the Kiwi’s manager, his team weren’t even contacted. Jarrell Miller won’t accept the bout, since he’s already guaranteed a shot at AJ.

I doubt that a Matchroom/DAZN/Sky fighter like Usyk will be given a shot at a Haymon/PBC/Showtime/Fox fighter like Luis Ortiz, especially considering the fact that the WBC is likely to provide the Cuban with another shot at Deontay Wilder soon.

[oogiebe]

Usyk needs a relatively easy first fight at HW to see how it feels.

How does he sell that to the UK though?
Noone wants to see him brain damage Dave Allen or dance circles around Chisora. Maybe he can murder big Pricey...
An 'easy fight' against a foreigner outside of the top 20 would be even worse.

I want to see Usyk take a big shot, from a top10 hw.... And happy to pay to see it

For Usyk, HW's from 10-15 are what I'm talking about. Not an easy opponent, an easier opponent than an top 5-8.

[Lackeos]

The Lebedev fight would probably be a decent career move if Usyk wants to further cement his claim of divisional dominance. I don't think it changes the equation a whole lot, but every bit helps when you're trying to move-up the ladder of top 10 all-time cruiserweights.

As a boxing fan and a hater of Usyk's hype (not Usyk himself), I'd be very pleased to see him in a fight with Povetkin or Ortiz. Very very pleased. But if I was managing him, I wouldn't aim for such a risky opponent in his first splash at heavyweight. Oh well. I'll take it.