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wouter
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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RKY wrote: 10 Oct 2018, 10:32Any reason why this is?
Because in case of a DQ a fight is not stopped because of superiority of one of the fighters, but because one of the participants broke the rules. Fans or fighters crying about perfect KO records being broken, should really get over it. Records are meant to be broken, anyway.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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wouter wrote: 10 Oct 2018, 11:13
RKY wrote: 10 Oct 2018, 10:32Any reason why this is?
Because in case of a DQ a fight is not stopped because of superiority of one of the fighters, but because one of the participants broke the rules. Fans or fighters crying about perfect KO records being broken, should really get over it. Records are meant to be broken, anyway.
But the fight ends within the distance. I have no doubt that a DQ should be a ko for the other guy - it's only logical.
Ambling Alp II
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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I have also always thought that a DQ should be counted as a KO.
Also always bothered me when occasionally you hear some say something to the effect of "You can't count that loss because it was a DQ". That is silly. You broke the rules, you should get a loss. Of course occasionally a DQ is total BS, but sometimes a TKO is also.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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Ambling Alp II wrote: 31 Oct 2018, 16:03 I have also always thought that a DQ should be counted as a KO.
Also always bothered me when occasionally you hear some say something to the effect of "You can't count that loss because it was a DQ". That is silly. You broke the rules, you should get a loss. Of course occasionally a DQ is total BS, but sometimes a TKO is also.
Shouldn't that be for the commission to decide whether they count it as a KO or not?

What you're complaining of is just people speaking out of ignorance when they say that, but I don't see how a DQ can be equated with a knockout. They're both stoppages, but DQ doesn't involve the one suffering it being saved by the ref. More like the other way around.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by nmhz »

Not so much a suggestion but a question on something I'm sure has been considered - Why are the forum topics not organized into weight classes? Eg. Heavyweight, Middleweight etc.

The categories can become a real mess of threads, particularly when there is a major upcoming fight. Often posters start the same thread/poll in Current Scene and British/Irish and there are multiple threads on the same topic.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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There's little something that was fixed once in an update - but after another update, it reverted back to old ways...
It's order of Prizefighter tournament fights on fighters record. It's like final came first, then semi-final and then quarterfinal.
I think if that's not big deal, it should be reverted to real order :TU: .
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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my suggestion is to allow disabling of the annoying feature that stops your post from going through if someone else posted in that thread while you were posting

it just becomes a nightmare to try to post in busy threads , especially round by round thread. it can take like 3-4-5 times of trying to post for the big fights.. and of course if we want to change our post 'in light of previous post' we can always go back and edit once our post is up
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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jamamb wrote: 15 Dec 2018, 18:54 my suggestion is to allow disabling of the annoying feature that stops your post from going through if someone else posted in that thread while you were posting

it just becomes a nightmare to try to post in busy threads , especially round by round thread. it can take like 3-4-5 times of trying to post for the big fights.. and of course if we want to change our post 'in light of previous post' we can always go back and edit once our post is up
x2!!!!
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Mastrangelos »

Question I'd like to put up is whether IBO Champions should be included in Champions List on the site?
It's not legimate title and I don't think there's need to give it any credibility by including it alongside 4 major titles. I understand some big name fighters hold it - alongside other, meaningful titles - but it's pretty much just a throphy. There's no mandatories, so it doesn't cost those guys anything to keep it.

4 titles considered "major" is already too much. Don't think anything good can come from people in boxing recognising newer organisations - trying to get in the mix - :brick: .
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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Mastrangelos wrote: 18 Dec 2018, 14:56 Question I'd like to put up is whether IBO Champions should be included in Champions List on the site?
It's not legimate title and I don't think there's need to give it any credibility by including it alongside 4 major titles. I understand some big name fighters hold it - alongside other, meaningful titles - but it's pretty much just a throphy. There's no mandatories, so it doesn't cost those guys anything to keep it.

4 titles considered "major" is already too much. Don't think anything good can come from people in boxing recognising newer organisations - trying to get in the mix - :brick: .
How about growing a nutsac and have BoxRec champions, like Ring Magazine has theirs, without regard to hellaciously criminal sanctioning bodies?
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Post by servo386 »

Hopefully I'm wrong and something like this exists but:

It would be really great if BoxRec could program a way for users to get an alert (email?) whenever a boxer they're watching schedules a new fight. I have a pretty extensive watch list and basically am always check to see who and when they're next fighting. It'd be awesome to get an alert about it.

Just a thought.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by dylanb123 »

I'm sorry but I think you have something seriously wrong with your algorithms for calculating a fighter's ranking. Please explain to me how on any parameter, Charlie Edwards can be ranked 21st P4P when Naoya Inoue is ranked 23rd? Naoya Inoue the undefeated, 17(15), 3 weight world champ? Disgraceful to have him outside of even the top 15.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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dylanb123 wrote: 27 Dec 2018, 09:35 I'm sorry but I think you have something seriously wrong with your algorithms for calculating a fighter's ranking. Please explain to me how on any parameter, Charlie Edwards can be ranked 21st P4P when Naoya Inoue is ranked 23rd? Naoya Inoue the undefeated, 17(15), 3 weight world champ? Disgraceful to have him outside of even the top 15.
The last top rated opponent Inoue boxed was Hernandez in 2014.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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What about considering WBA regular title a minor one?
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by way-o »

My suggestion- come out with an app and add a feature for me to mark fights I've seen and make personal notes. It could be stored locally, just have a backup/export/import type feature. :bag: :bag: :bag:
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way-o wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 22:09 My suggestion- come out with an app and add a feature for me to mark fights I've seen and make personal notes. It could be stored locally, just have a backup/export/import type feature. :bag: :bag: :bag:
Although a nice thought apps costs a lot of money, as its a free site I can't see them spending big money on that.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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I can’t log out on my iOS devices. Whenever I press the icon to log out it takes me to my personal details page.....
Jens S
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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Why do you change the ratings all the time. It is unthrustworthy. It is about five times in just two months. Who is behind? Why?
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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Jens S wrote: 10 Jan 2019, 06:43 Why do you change the ratings all the time. It is unthrustworthy. It is about five times in just two months. Who is behind? Why?
We have a policy of updating the ratings whenever a more accurate algorithm is developed even if the improvement is a fraction of a fraction of a percent.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by Jens S »

Ok, that is your choice. How come you make the level of points, so that almost half the boxers in a division have zero points? It used to be much higher, so that fewer fighters would be a "0", Multiply by five, and you would be at the level it used to be. Then you could distinguish with lower ranked fighters as well. I think that would make the rankings mare usefull for the users.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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Jens S wrote: 10 Jan 2019, 07:51 Ok, that is your choice. How come you make the level of points, so that almost half the boxers in a division have zero points? It used to be much higher, so that fewer fighters would be a "0", Multiply by five, and you would be at the level it used to be. Then you could distinguish with lower ranked fighters as well. I think that would make the rankings mare usefull for the users.
There are 21661 active boxers listed with the p4p selection.

Ranked 10830 is Juan Carlos Garcia listed with 1 point. Look at his record. He only defeated debutants and won 1 bout against an opponent , who had a SD against a debutant.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/656554

How could we give those boxers more than 1 point?
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Post by Jens S »

They don't get 1,2,3 etc. points. When a fighter has 1 point, he might in reality have 0.57 or 0.86 or 1,43. So two fighters with the same number of points shown on the page may be quite different. Right now, these fighters look the same. If you multiply by 10. They would have 6, 9 and 14 points. There is no difference in there relative ranking, which the system builds upon. But for the user of Boxrec, it would be possible to see the difference.

I took multiplying by five as an example, because as I remember the level of points before, it was about that level. So in reality, there is no change in the ranking system. It is just about making it more userfriendly and give a better level of information.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

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If it were possible, an ability to run reports with more filters such as, age; size; ranking, etc. I realize that for the most part, running a lot of query's on a system can really make it stall, but I don't know what technology/platform you guys are utilizing. Thanks!
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by rcsauvag »

Can DAZN be added for television? This section makes it so easy to search for upcoming televised fights, but you cannot limit the searches for DAZN.
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Re: Suggestions for BoxRec

Post by JohnMcMinn »

This may be hard to implement, but I'd love to see an advanced search function. To be able to search for boxers by location, weight class, active years - things like that. Would be a great tool for research.
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