Does Archie Moore have the most career knockout wins?

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Does Archie Moore have the most career knockout wins?

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Hall of famer Archie Moore has 132 career knockout victories. Is that the most ever?

What active boxer has the most KO's?
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Archie Moore has 143 KOs.....the most ever
Record was 196-26-8
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chuck9788 wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 09:37Does Archie Moore have the most career knockout wins?


Hall of famer Archie Moore has 132 career knockout victories. Is that the most ever?

What active boxer has the most KO's?
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/17871
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saul farrah 58
sor has 41
wilder and pac both 39

search is on :yay:
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jamamb wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 12:50 saul farrah 58
sor has 41
wilder and pac both 39

search is on :yay:
The thread topic is dead, since I already provided the answer in my previous post: Billy Bird = 138 KO's.

The forum moderators might as well lock the thread and move it to the historical BoxRec board.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 13:57
jamamb wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 12:50 saul farrah 58
sor has 41
wilder and pac both 39

search is on :yay:
The thread topic is dead, since I already provided the answer in my previous post: Billy Bird = 138 KO's.

The forum moderators might as well lock the thread and move it to the historical BoxRec board.
Thread not dead...I've seen Moore given credit for 141 ko's (ESPN). Also, another poster asked what active boxer has the most KO's as of now.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 13:57
jamamb wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 12:50 saul farrah 58
sor has 41
wilder and pac both 39

search is on :yay:
The thread topic is dead, since I already provided the answer in my previous post: Billy Bird = 138 KO's.

The forum moderators might as well lock the thread and move it to the historical BoxRec board.
op also asked about active boxers, billy bird was born in the 1800s mate
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oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 13:59
Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 13:57
jamamb wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 12:50 saul farrah 58
sor has 41
wilder and pac both 39

search is on :yay:
The thread topic is dead, since I already provided the answer in my previous post: Billy Bird = 138 KO's.

The forum moderators might as well lock the thread and move it to the historical BoxRec board.
Thread not dead...I've seen Moore given credit for 141 ko's (ESPN).
You have to go with the consensus opinion, rather than cherry-pick a claim articulated by the minority.

For instance, Sam Langford technically had 126KO wins, but so many of his bouts weren't recorded that many boxing historians claim that the number is far in excess of 150.

So do we agree on an "official" number that reflects the general opinion or do we supposed the highest number quoted by a website?
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jamamb wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:00
Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 13:57
jamamb wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 12:50 saul farrah 58
sor has 41
wilder and pac both 39

search is on :yay:
The thread topic is dead, since I already provided the answer in my previous post: Billy Bird = 138 KO's.

The forum moderators might as well lock the thread and move it to the historical BoxRec board.
op also asked about active boxers, billy bird was born in the 1800s mate
Thread title mate and first question in the op's post. :TU: :lol:
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y wud u lock the thread and move it to history if he also asked about active boxers, we got another question to answer :yay:
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Re: Does Archie Moore have the most career knockout wins?

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Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:03
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 13:59
Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 13:57
The thread topic is dead, since I already provided the answer in my previous post: Billy Bird = 138 KO's.

The forum moderators might as well lock the thread and move it to the historical BoxRec board.
Thread not dead...I've seen Moore given credit for 141 ko's (ESPN).
You have to go with the consensus opinion, rather than cherry-pick a claim articulated by the minority.

For instance, Sam Langford technically had 126KO wins, but so many of his bouts weren't recorded that many boxing historians claim that the number is far in excess of 150.

So do we agree on an "official" number that reflects the general opinion or do we supposed the highest number quoted by a website?
The post has three or four figures for Moore's KO mark. What consensus? What source are you calling official? ESPN is the US's biggest sports network, not just some website. Stop talking out yer arse FFS.
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jamamb wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 12:50 saul farrah 58
sor has 41
wilder and pac both 39

search is on :yay:
Krzysztof Włodarczyk has 39 KOs as well
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Wisaksil Wangek (41), Nare Yianleang (42), Roberto Valenzuela (58), Saul Farah (58), Sirimongkhon Iamthuam (61)

Is that the end of thread or can someone find an active boxer with more than 61 KO's? :lol:
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138 KOs Billy Bird
132 KOs Archie Moore
129 KOs Young Stribling
126 KOs Sam Langford
121 KOs Buck Smith
114 KOs Kid Azteca
113 KOs Alabama Kid
111 KOs George Odwell
109 KOs Sugar Ray Robinson
106 KOs Peter Maher
104 KOs Sandy Saddler
101 KOs Henry Armstrong
100 KOs Joe Gans
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Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:15 Wisaksil Wangek (41), Nare Yianleang (42), Roberto Valenzuela (58), Saul Farah (58), Sirimongkhon Iamthuam (61)

Is that the end of thread or can someone find an active boxer with more than 61 KO's? :lol:
You, know EO, it's not so much what you say. It's the obnoxious way you say it. END OF THREAD
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Though some say WIlde has hundreds more than on boxrec, so while they may never be known, he may well have had the most.

Currently sitting at 99
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BitPlayer wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:20 Though some say WIlde has hundreds more than on boxrec, so while they may never be known, he may well have had the most.

Currently sitting at 99
I would believe that many of the old guard had more of a record than what we are aware of today. There seems to be a certain amount of disparity among historic figures, and 'lost' fights.
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Miguel Roman - 47, Jhonny Gonzalez - 54
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oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:19
Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:15 Wisaksil Wangek (41), Nare Yianleang (42), Roberto Valenzuela (58), Saul Farah (58), Sirimongkhon Iamthuam (61)

Is that the end of thread or can someone find an active boxer with more than 61 KO's? :lol:
You, know EO, it's not so much what you say. It's the obnoxious way you say it. END OF THREAD
It’s hard to be humorous via the written word, but if my cheeky comments upset you, then I apologise.

I'm right though, aren't I? Can anyone beat 61 KO's? :lol:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:25
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:19
Enlightened-One wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:15 Wisaksil Wangek (41), Nare Yianleang (42), Roberto Valenzuela (58), Saul Farah (58), Sirimongkhon Iamthuam (61)

Is that the end of thread or can someone find an active boxer with more than 61 KO's? :lol:
You, know EO, it's not so much what you say. It's the obnoxious way you say it. END OF THREAD
It’s hard to be humorous via the written word, but if my cheeky comments upset you, then I apologise.

I'm right though, aren't I? Can anyone beat 61 KO's? :lol:
We'll find out. It appears posters are still browsing the record books.
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oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:23
BitPlayer wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:20 Though some say WIlde has hundreds more than on boxrec, so while they may never be known, he may well have had the most.

Currently sitting at 99
I would believe that many of the old guard had more of a record than what we are aware of today. There seems to be a certain amount of disparity among historic figures, and 'lost' fights.
If you go search some old newspapers you quickly find how incomplete boxrec still is, I was looking into Paddy Duffy, and found on one card two unrecorded fights involving opponents of Ike Weir. Found a few for Duffy's opponents too.

A lot weren't even recorded at all, and are probably lost forever.
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BitPlayer wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:30
oogiebe wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:23
BitPlayer wrote: 15 Jan 2019, 14:20 Though some say WIlde has hundreds more than on boxrec, so while they may never be known, he may well have had the most.

Currently sitting at 99
I would believe that many of the old guard had more of a record than what we are aware of today. There seems to be a certain amount of disparity among historic figures, and 'lost' fights.
If you go search some old newspapers you quickly find how incomplete boxrec still is, I was looking into Paddy Duffy, and found on one card two unrecorded fights involving opponents of Ike Weir. Found a few for Duffy's opponents too.

A lot weren't even recorded at all, and are probably lost forever.
I can easily believe that.
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Off-topic, but rather interesting nonetheless: Suleyman Dag – 63 KO losses (stopped three times during 2018) :o
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Paddy Gorman is 9-9-1 on boxrec, from newspapers I put his record up to 19-11-2, he's someone who fought several important fighters.

Supposed record of Sam McVea before he fought Jack Fogarty
Los Angeles Herald, Volume XXX, Number 5, 6 October 1902
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d ... in-------1

Lee Haley 3 rounds
Tim Jackson 8 rounds
George Jones 2 rounds
Jim Flint 4 rounds
Mike Nolan 16 rounds
George Stewart 9 rounds
Tom Mckee 3 rounds
George Sullivan 7 rounds

Which would put him at 11-0 instead of 6-0 when he first fought Jack Johnson.
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• Most KO victories ever: Billy Bird = 138 KO's
• Most KO victories by an active fighter: Sirimongkhon Iamthuam = 61 KO's
• Most KO losses by ever: Simmie Black = 97 KO's ??? I can't find a worse record, but someone else might be able to
• Most KO losses by an active fighter: Suleyman Dag = 63 KO's
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