Scott Harrison was pulled out of the St.Clair fight...

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 May 2006, 07:50

Whatever their profession be it popstar, actor, footballer, boxer they have got it better than 99.99% of the rest of the world so sort it out fcuking tosspots.

ABA Boxing · Post by **ABA Boxing** » 17 May 2006, 08:03

I agree if they cant handle it get the hell out.

Im quite happy to take over all there troubles along with there bank accounts! Just hand it over and be on your way!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 17 May 2006, 08:04

nickd wrote:Depressed? Makes me laugh all these famous people with money rolling in left right and centre are always fuckin depressed. TRY DOING A 9-5 LIKE 90% OF THE REST OF THE WORLD YA FCUKIN CNUTS!

Robbie Williams was crying depression just weeks after signing £80million record deal. What a twat!

As has been inconclusively proven recently, money DOES NOT buy happiness. What you have to realise is that most celebrities, are by the very fact that they want or in most cases NEED to be famous are fucked up already.

You should watch that program about the happiness formula on BBC, it's very interesting. It's proven that the things that make us happy by and large, and things than money cannot buy.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 May 2006, 08:05

Money cant buy happiness true but it fuckin helps. The opposite is true though not having any money is certainly depressing although thankfully not been there in a long time myself! These wankers dont know when they're born.

El Raincoat · Post by **El Raincoat** » 17 May 2006, 08:14

I'm seething they've cancelled it. I'm supposed to be going over for that. Apparently Danny Williams is now on the card but he'll be up against some bum. There looking for another bout but i can't see it being to great at this late notice. FUMING.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 17 May 2006, 08:18

nickd wrote:Money cant buy happiness true but it fuckin helps. The opposite is true though not having any money is certainly depressing although thankfully not been there in a long time myself! These wankers dont know when they're born.

Well, what this new theory seems to prove, is that over a certain amount of money (and it's really not a great deal £10,000 a year over and above living expenses), extra money does not increase people's feelings of happiness. However, having a large social network, being married, having a career you enjoy doing, etc, are all BIG factors.

Nothing most of us didn't know already.

fist · Post by **fist** » 17 May 2006, 08:38

nickd wrote:Depressed? Makes me laugh all these famous people with money rolling in left right and centre are always fuckin depressed. TRY DOING A 9-5 LIKE 90% OF THE REST OF THE WORLD YA FCUKIN CNUTS!

Robbie Williams was crying depression just weeks after signing £80million record deal. What a twat!

Ignorant nob. What does money have to do with depression? Money is not an intervention for mental health problems, it cannot alter deficits in seratonin. Yes money helps, but al the money in the world will not cure a person who suffers from mental illness. Most people at some point in their life suffer mental health problems, only difference with famous people is that we get know about it, cos they are in the public eye. But to criticise them for being mentaly unwell is fornicating madness.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 May 2006, 08:45

fist wrote:
nickd wrote:Depressed? Makes me laugh all these famous people with money rolling in left right and centre are always fuckin depressed. TRY DOING A 9-5 LIKE 90% OF THE REST OF THE WORLD YA FCUKIN CNUTS!

Robbie Williams was crying depression just weeks after signing £80million record deal. What a twat!
Ignorant nob. What does money have to do with depression? Money is not an intervention for mental health problems, it cannot alter deficits in seratonin. Yes money helps, but al the money in the world will not cure a person who suffers from mental illness. Most people at some point in their life suffer mental health problems, only difference with famous people is that we get know about it, cos they are in the public eye. But to criticise them for being mentaly unwell is fornicating madness.

Ignorant?

You really believe Harrison is depressed? Booze and drugs more likely. As with most of these celebs.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 17 May 2006, 08:50

Yes but why would he go out on the razzle a few days before a big fight, having already put in months of hellish work to make weight ( going by the photo ) and thow it all away for the sake of a drink with the lads?

Just because he likes a drink? No way, he's obviously got some serious mental issues he needs to deal with. Booked into the Priory apparently.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 17 May 2006, 08:57

nickd wrote:
fist wrote:
nickd wrote:Depressed? Makes me laugh all these famous people with money rolling in left right and centre are always fuckin depressed. TRY DOING A 9-5 LIKE 90% OF THE REST OF THE WORLD YA FCUKIN CNUTS!

Robbie Williams was crying depression just weeks after signing £80million record deal. What a twat!
Ignorant nob. What does money have to do with depression? Money is not an intervention for mental health problems, it cannot alter deficits in seratonin. Yes money helps, but al the money in the world will not cure a person who suffers from mental illness. Most people at some point in their life suffer mental health problems, only difference with famous people is that we get know about it, cos they are in the public eye. But to criticise them for being mentaly unwell is fornicating madness.
Ignorant?

You really believe Harrison is depressed? Booze and drugs more likely. As with most of these celebs.

And it doesn't occur to you that people who abuse drink and drugs in many cases have underlying problems?

As MW said, for him to go on the raz that close to a fight, he obviously isn't thinking straight, he just cost himself a shed load of money, might lose his title and may end up being ditched by his promoter.

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 17 May 2006, 09:01

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
nickd wrote:Depressed? Makes me laugh all these famous people with money rolling in left right and centre are always fuckin depressed. TRY DOING A 9-5 LIKE 90% OF THE REST OF THE WORLD YA FCUKIN CNUTS!

Robbie Williams was crying depression just weeks after signing £80million record deal. What a twat!
As has been inconclusively proven recently, money DOES NOT buy happiness. What you have to realise is that most celebrities, are by the very fact that they want or in most cases NEED to be famous are fucked up already.

You should watch that program about the happiness formula on BBC, it's very interesting. It's proven that the things that make us happy by and large, and things than money cannot buy.

A nice curry with tandori rottis make me happy for udner a fiver

Moneys not the be all and end all but remembering back when I couldn't do anything because I had so little cash and I always fought with my ex over money.....money can certainly avert a great deal of unhappyness as countless people on the breadline always stressing and worrying over money will testify too

Phenomenal-Nutrition · Post by **Phenomenal-Nutrition** » 17 May 2006, 09:05

Having said that many problems all the money in the world won't make go away. I think allot of people have problems coping with life, thats why alcohols so popular.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 17 May 2006, 09:26

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
nickd wrote:Depressed? Makes me laugh all these famous people with money rolling in left right and centre are always fuckin depressed. TRY DOING A 9-5 LIKE 90% OF THE REST OF THE WORLD YA FCUKIN CNUTS!

Robbie Williams was crying depression just weeks after signing £80million record deal. What a twat!
As has been inconclusively proven recently, money DOES NOT buy happiness. What you have to realise is that most celebrities, are by the very fact that they want or in most cases NEED to be famous are fucked up already.

You should watch that program about the happiness formula on BBC, it's very interesting. It's proven that the things that make us happy by and large, and things than money cannot buy.
A nice curry with tandori rottis make me happy for udner a fiver

Moneys not the be all and end all but remembering back when I couldn't do anything because I had so little cash and I always fought with my ex over money.....money can certainly avert a great deal of unhappyness as countless people on the breadline always stressing and worrying over money will testify too

Yes, this is true, however, it's also been found that when people no long er worry over money, they start worrying about much bigger issues which are harder to address, and become depressed. Someone living in a society where the only concern is to have enough to eat, get laid, and build your own house, has fornicate all to worry about, and most of their time is taken up with just living.

Trouble is, sting comes along and tries to save them, and the next thing you know their walking 50 miles to the nearest town to get crates of Coca Cola and buying Sattelite dishes and fridges to keep their Coke in, then the other tribespeople start worrying that they don't have a dish, or a fridge, or crate of coke, and the whole thing fucks up.

Lenny · Post by **Lenny** » 17 May 2006, 10:00

From Secondsout

Talented Joan Guzman received a great deal of criticism when he withdrew from his mandated WBO super-featherweight title challenge against champ Scott Harrison. The fight, originally set for March, was rescheduled for this weekend in Belfast but Guzman - point blank not believing Harrison's pull-out excuse of a mouth infection - refused the rescheduled date and fought on a Golden Boy undercard instead.

Now, with Harrison's well-reported troubles resulting in his unsurprising final withdrawal from the Belfast card, Team Guzman feel vindicated.

Guzman said: "First of all, I hope that Scott Harrison gets whatever medical and professional help he needs to straighten out his life. For him and his family, that is more important than boxing. Second, I know there was criticism of me, my manager and my promoters when we decided, after three postponements by Harrison and his promoter allegedly, to fight Javier Jauregui on the De La Hoya v Mayorga HBO PPV show at the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas.

"Can there be any doubt that Team Guzman made the right choice in adding Golden Boy Promotions to co-promote me along with Sycuan Ringside Promotions? I could be sitting in Belfast today having trained off an on since last October for a world title that we believed would never happen. As it turns out, the real victim is challenger Gary St. Clair. I trusted in my manager, Jose Nunez, and my co-promoters and they were 100 percent correct. I look forward to my next fight under the banner of Golden Boy and Sycuan. And I wish Scott Harrison a great recovery from whatever demons he is battling."

Manager Jose Nunez added: "Our decision to fight in Las Vegas is completely vindicated now. We don't hit a man when he is down so we won't insult Scott Harrison. But allegedly and Frank Maloney played games with us and with Guzman's career, moving the date and even switching the site from Glasgow to Belfast. You can't play with people's (careers) like that.

"I will point out that Sycuan VP Scott Woodworth made an amazing prediction. When Warren moved the title bout from March 25 to May 20 and from Scotland to Belfast, Woodworth told me and Joan that Harrison would pull out of the fight two or three days before the actual event was to take place. I already asked Scott to give me next year's Super Bowl winner. Thank God we are now in good hands with Mr. De La Hoya and Sycuan and Guzman received tremendous exposure on HBO pay-per-view. The best is yet to come for Joan Guzman."

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 17 May 2006, 13:28

Terence wrote:I'm with Nick on this. You just read it and feel like screaming: "be a man and sort yourself out lad!"

Harrison should have been pragmatic, he felt down and di dwhatever he was doing, he should have imgined life without his title, his earning capabilities and the stuff it can bring his family, then seen if he was still depressed. He had everything in his grasp to take by the balls and now will probably be stripped of all he worked for.

there have been plenty of fighters before who have had issues and problems and fought thru them: Chavez was a boozer late in his career but rarely pulled out of fights. Duran was a party animal but always (in his prime) presented himself fit and ready - even if he did pul out against SRL with 'stomach cramps'.

Still, would boxing/ITV have benefitted from Harrison 'doing a McCall' on saturday night and refusing to box whilst weeping uncontrollably? No.

He has thrown away a decent career with good earning potential. Lets hope he can come back and concentrate on boxing and not boozing once again.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 17 May 2006, 13:41

nickd wrote:Money cant buy happiness true but it fuckin helps. The opposite is true though not having any money is certainly depressing although thankfully not been there in a long time myself! These wankers dont know when they're born.

Sod loads of money an 18 year old Thai Bride would make me happy.

Paul Powler · Post by **Paul Powler** » 17 May 2006, 13:49

Errr.... let's see.... Warren MUST have gotten wind of this sh*t before Tuesday... but he continued to sell tickets to us Irish fans... and now to save face (and his ass) he is saying he's thinking of suing Harrison, who is clearly one buger short of a Happy Meal... class act, that Frank...

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 17 May 2006, 13:53

If Scotts probem was bugle and not booze, as some have inferred, then at least he has a good roll model in SRL.

Sugar Ray got into recreational hoovering during in his first retirement; he points to this as a reason behind his poor showing against Kevin Howard.

I know Harrison aint got the sugarman's skills but if he can come back half as well as he did then his career isnt necessarily up 5hit creek (although promoters might think twice before booking him..)

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 17 May 2006, 13:56

Terence wrote:I'm with Nick on this. You just read it and feel like screaming: "be a man and sort yourself out lad!"

Harrison should have been pragmatic, he felt down and di dwhatever he was doing, he should have imgined life without his title, his earning capabilities and the stuff it can bring his family, then seen if he was still depressed. He had everything in his grasp to take by the balls and now will probably be stripped of all he worked for.

You obviously have never experienced or known anyone who has experineced depression.... you don't decide to be depressed, just as you don't decide to have other illnesses... often heavy use of alcohol and drugs is caused by depression... if someone is smug and happy with themselves why would they want to get out of their heads... we actually live in a depressed society but most people are too dazed to realise it...

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 17 May 2006, 13:58

silkov wrote: we actually live in a depressed society but most people are too dazed to realise it...

I agree 100%

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 May 2006, 14:15

Well at the end of the day its hard to feel sorry for a guy like Harrison who not long ago was lording it around pubs lighting cigars with 50 pound notes. Now he's depressed? Boo fuckin hoo.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 17 May 2006, 14:31

nickd wrote:Well at the end of the day its hard to feel sorry for a guy like Harrison who not long ago was lording it around pubs lighting cigars with 50 pound notes. Now he's depressed? Boo fuckin hoo.

So you think that someone who is lighting cigars with £20 pound notes is healthy and happy do you?....

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 May 2006, 15:31

silkov wrote:
nickd wrote:Well at the end of the day its hard to feel sorry for a guy like Harrison who not long ago was lording it around pubs lighting cigars with 50 pound notes. Now he's depressed? Boo fuckin hoo.
So you think that someone who is lighting cigars with £20 pound notes is healthy and happy do you?....

He's done that sort of thing a fair bit in the past and he wasn't doing it because there was anything wrong with him he was doing it to be a flash bastard. Not so flash now. What goes around come around.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 17 May 2006, 15:46

nickd wrote:
silkov wrote:
nickd wrote:Well at the end of the day its hard to feel sorry for a guy like Harrison who not long ago was lording it around pubs lighting cigars with 50 pound notes. Now he's depressed? Boo fuckin hoo.
So you think that someone who is lighting cigars with £20 pound notes is healthy and happy do you?....
He's done that sort of thing a fair bit in the past and he wasn't doing it because there was anything wrong with him he was doing it to be a flash bastard. Not so flash now. What goes around come around.

His father has said that he's suffered from depression for years... its not the sort of thing that you just pick up in a week, people can struggle with it all their lives and it often leads to behaviour which is irrational etc... your rather gloating attitude smacks sadly of envy which is rather pathetic really... its easy to kick someone when their down isn't it...

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 17 May 2006, 16:39

silkov wrote:
nickd wrote:
silkov wrote: So you think that someone who is lighting cigars with £20 pound notes is healthy and happy do you?....
He's done that sort of thing a fair bit in the past and he wasn't doing it because there was anything wrong with him he was doing it to be a flash bastard. Not so flash now. What goes around come around.
His father has said that he's suffered from depression for years... its not the sort of thing that you just pick up in a week, people can struggle with it all their lives and it often leads to behaviour which is irrational etc... your rather gloating attitude smacks sadly of envy which is rather pathetic really... its easy to kick someone when their down isn't it...

Envy? Hardly. I'm more than happy with my lot. Everyone is entitled to their opinion ours differ on this subject obviously. But someone like Harrison who openly goes out and gloats about how loaded he is, talks down to everyone and generally behaves like a right pudendum gets no sympathy from me when it all goes pear shaped. Sorry if that riles anyone but Harrison has been an arsehole for a long time.