'WHY ALWAYS THE BLACK FIGHTERS EXPECTED TO ACT A CERTAIN WAY TO SELL A FIGHT?' - TERENCE CRAWFORD

[caldo2025]

Dude, everyone here knows that you’re racist as well as misogynist. The funny thing is, I don’t even think that you’re even done with collecting these labels. You must have more negativity than that in your angry little virgin body. You probably hate old people, little people, overweight people, garden nomes? Come on let’s hear some more hate buddy! There must be something else you guys talked about at your Hitler Youth rally last night?

There’s one idiot that continually speaks out against black people and women on this site and it’s you. It’s not the place for it. We all want to talk Boxing, not your hate menu and agenda.

What you've just said has never happened in any version of reality! You must have dreamt it up, because you cannot possibly cite any proof of me being a bigoted or prejudiced in any shape or form!

Your slanderous words actually made me laugh, because this is what you’ve resorted to, simply because you’re frustrated about me making a complete mockery of your allegations against Max Kellerman.

So instead of attacking the argument, you attack the arguer, but you can’t even get that right, can you? You keep lying! I honestly don't know why you keep punishing yourself!

I’ve got way better things to do then to put myself through reading ur crap a second time proving you wrong for, what is now 4 topics in a row? I have never owned someone so consistently than I have owned you.

It’s easy for you and your lover Janamb or whatever his stupid name is to criticize people for being sensitive to racism. None of your family were hung from trees or whipped every other day of their lives. You guys just continue living in your WHITE POWER worlds while the realists will continue to point out your naiveties until we just get tired of hearing your tired old bits. I’m almost jealous of your ignorance. Almost.

[Enlightened-One]

Dude, everyone here knows that you’re racist as well as misogynist. The funny thing is, I don’t even think that you’re even done with collecting these labels. You must have more negativity than that in your angry little virgin body. You probably hate old people, little people, overweight people, garden nomes? Come on let’s hear some more hate buddy! There must be something else you guys talked about at your Hitler Youth rally last night?

There’s one idiot that continually speaks out against black people and women on this site and it’s you. It’s not the place for it. We all want to talk Boxing, not your hate menu and agenda.

What you've just said has never happened in any version of reality! You must have dreamt it up, because you cannot possibly cite any proof of me being a bigoted or prejudiced in any shape or form!

Your slanderous words actually made me laugh, because this is what you’ve resorted to, simply because you’re frustrated about me making a complete mockery of your allegations against Max Kellerman.

So instead of attacking the argument, you attack the arguer, but you can’t even get that right, can you? You keep lying! I honestly don't know why you keep punishing yourself!

I’ve got way better things to do then to put myself through reading ur crap a second time proving you wrong for, what is now 4 topics in a row? I have never owned someone so consistently than I have owned you.

It’s easy for you and your lover Janamb or whatever his stupid name is to criticize people for being sensitive to racism. None of your family were hung from trees or whipped every other day of their lives. You guys just continue living in your WHITE POWER worlds while the realists will continue to point out your naiveties until we just get tired of hearing your tired old bits. I’m almost jealous of your ignorance. Almost.

At least you’re admitting to lying, because it should be easy to provide examples of my alleged “racist” and “misogynist” comments, especially considering you claim that I’m an “idiot that continually speaks out against black people and women”, but you’re unable to do this, aren’t you?

BECAUSE IT NEVER FṸCKḬNG HAPPENED!!!

It’s also rather interesting to see you inadvertently admitting to being a member of the snowflake generation.

You should tearfully demand the BoxRec forum administrators and moderators to create a separate “Safe Place” board to specifically cater for overly-sensitive cry-baby bữllshḯttḛrs like you!

For the record, I believe in treating people as individuals – not racial identities! It’s a shame you can’t do the same.

[caldo2025]

What you've just said has never happened in any version of reality! You must have dreamt it up, because you cannot possibly cite any proof of me being a bigoted or prejudiced in any shape or form!

Your slanderous words actually made me laugh, because this is what you’ve resorted to, simply because you’re frustrated about me making a complete mockery of your allegations against Max Kellerman.

So instead of attacking the argument, you attack the arguer, but you can’t even get that right, can you? You keep lying! I honestly don't know why you keep punishing yourself!

I’ve got way better things to do then to put myself through reading ur crap a second time proving you wrong for, what is now 4 topics in a row? I have never owned someone so consistently than I have owned you.

It’s easy for you and your lover Janamb or whatever his stupid name is to criticize people for being sensitive to racism. None of your family were hung from trees or whipped every other day of their lives. You guys just continue living in your WHITE POWER worlds while the realists will continue to point out your naiveties until we just get tired of hearing your tired old bits. I’m almost jealous of your ignorance. Almost.

At least you’re admitting to lying, because it should be easy to provide examples of my alleged “racist” and “misogynist” comments, especially considering you claim that I’m an “idiot that continually speaks out against black people and women”, but you’re unable to do this, aren’t you?

BECAUSE IT NEVER FṸCKḬNG HAPPENED!!!

It’s also rather interesting to see you inadvertently admitting to being a member of the snowflake generation.

You should tearfully demand the BoxRec forum administrators and moderators to create a separate “Safe Place” board to specifically cater for overly-sensitive cry-baby bữllshḯttḛrs like you!

For the record, I believe in treating people as individuals – not racial identities! It’s a shame you can’t do the same.

Let’s see, you have taken Broner’s side In every one of those court cases saying that the girls lying. You love Adonis even though he was a pimp, claiming that there’s no evidence even though he was convicted of it. These are just from memory. If I had no life like you and just sitting around all day instead of working, I’d find more.

You are constantly speaking out about the “race card” like you’ve just been through so much of it and it hurts. Awwwww....poor you. You’ve really had it tough ha buddy. You are clueless to what happens in the big world. You only know what’s happening in your small white neighborhood. I bet you haven’t seen anyone but white people so far today? You will lie and claim to have but we all know you’re lying. You are a clueless dude.

[oogiebe]

I’ve got way better things to do then to put myself through reading ur crap a second time proving you wrong for, what is now 4 topics in a row? I have never owned someone so consistently than I have owned you.

It’s easy for you and your lover Janamb or whatever his stupid name is to criticize people for being sensitive to racism. None of your family were hung from trees or whipped every other day of their lives. You guys just continue living in your WHITE POWER worlds while the realists will continue to point out your naiveties until we just get tired of hearing your tired old bits. I’m almost jealous of your ignorance. Almost.

At least you’re admitting to lying, because it should be easy to provide examples of my alleged “racist” and “misogynist” comments, especially considering you claim that I’m an “idiot that continually speaks out against black people and women”, but you’re unable to do this, aren’t you?

BECAUSE IT NEVER FṸCKḬNG HAPPENED!!!

It’s also rather interesting to see you inadvertently admitting to being a member of the snowflake generation.

You should tearfully demand the BoxRec forum administrators and moderators to create a separate “Safe Place” board to specifically cater for overly-sensitive cry-baby bữllshḯttḛrs like you!

For the record, I believe in treating people as individuals – not racial identities! It’s a shame you can’t do the same.

Let’s see, you have taken Broner’s side In every one of those court cases saying that the girls lying. You love Adonis even though he was a pimp, claiming that there’s no evidence even though he was convicted of it. These are just from memory. If I had no life like you and just sitting around all day instead of working, I’d find more.

You are constantly speaking out about the “race card” like you’ve just been through so much of it and it hurts. Awwwww....poor you. You’ve really had it tough ha buddy. You are clueless to what happens in the big world. You only know what’s happening in your small white neighborhood. I bet you haven’t seen anyone but white people so far today? You will lie and claim to have but we all know you’re lying. You are a clueless dude.

Take it easy Caldo. It's not worth getting hot over. Unless you are a minority, you don't know how it feels. I agree.

[Enlightened-One]

I’ve got way better things to do then to put myself through reading ur crap a second time proving you wrong for, what is now 4 topics in a row? I have never owned someone so consistently than I have owned you.

It’s easy for you and your lover Janamb or whatever his stupid name is to criticize people for being sensitive to racism. None of your family were hung from trees or whipped every other day of their lives. You guys just continue living in your WHITE POWER worlds while the realists will continue to point out your naiveties until we just get tired of hearing your tired old bits. I’m almost jealous of your ignorance. Almost.

At least you’re admitting to lying, because it should be easy to provide examples of my alleged “racist” and “misogynist” comments, especially considering you claim that I’m an “idiot that continually speaks out against black people and women”, but you’re unable to do this, aren’t you?

BECAUSE IT NEVER FṸCKḬNG HAPPENED!!!

It’s also rather interesting to see you inadvertently admitting to being a member of the snowflake generation.

You should tearfully demand the BoxRec forum administrators and moderators to create a separate “Safe Place” board to specifically cater for overly-sensitive cry-baby bữllshḯttḛrs like you!

For the record, I believe in treating people as individuals – not racial identities! It’s a shame you can’t do the same.

Let’s see, you have taken Broner’s side In every one of those court cases saying that the girls lying. You love Adonis even though he was a pimp, claiming that there’s no evidence even though he was convicted of it. These are just from memory. If I had no life like you and just sitting around all day instead of working, I’d find more.

You are constantly speaking out about the “race card” like you’ve just been through so much of it and it hurts. Awwwww....poor you. You’ve really had it tough ha buddy. You are clueless to what happens in the big world. You only know what’s happening in your small white neighborhood. I bet you haven’t seen anyone but white people so far today? You will lie and claim to have but we all know you’re lying. You are a clueless dude.

You’re making stuff up.

You aren’t a victim, so don’t pretend you are, because you’re the only one lying and attacking others.

You can’t prove anything you’ve claimed, because it never fûckîng happened!

If you’re convinced I’m wrong or lying, then either fûckîng prove it or shut the fûck up you brainless twàt!

By the way, Max Kellerman didn’t say anything offensive to Terence Crawford!

[Best Coast]

That’s propably true. Wants to stir up politically charged conflict where there is none and use TC as his clown by trying to get TC to make incendiary statements as he sits back and enjoys the show. Sucks, I watch boxing to get away from all that nonsense this idiot wants to make it a part of boxing.

Exactly...you nailed it!! If you ever heard Kellerman's local radio show on ESPN-LA he has always tried to outflank co-host Marcellus Wiley by seeing who can inject the racial/political angle on a particular story first, (not that Wiley doesnt do enough of that on his own). It's like a competition between them to see who can put the best racial/political spin on an item. That's a big reason why ESPN has lost a lot of subscriptions/viewers in recent years because most people watch sports programming for the sports, NOT the politics.

That's one more thing that makes his rap video above so funny because on his sports talk shows Max consistently comes across as someone who wishes he was black.

Yeah, he tends to overrate black fighters and underrate all others. Talks like he knows things other don’t because he is a pernelle Whitaker fan boy. Please max, sweet pea was a great defensive fighter but offensively he was below average and many of his fights were unwatchable due to all his running around.

MaxiPad has always been a shameless Sweet Pea nuthugger. I remember how upset he got when De La Hoya won a decision over Whitaker in their fight where Pernell's most significant moves were clowning and shaking his booty.

[caldo2025]

At least you’re admitting to lying, because it should be easy to provide examples of my alleged “racist” and “misogynist” comments, especially considering you claim that I’m an “idiot that continually speaks out against black people and women”, but you’re unable to do this, aren’t you?

BECAUSE IT NEVER FṸCKḬNG HAPPENED!!!

It’s also rather interesting to see you inadvertently admitting to being a member of the snowflake generation.

You should tearfully demand the BoxRec forum administrators and moderators to create a separate “Safe Place” board to specifically cater for overly-sensitive cry-baby bữllshḯttḛrs like you!

For the record, I believe in treating people as individuals – not racial identities! It’s a shame you can’t do the same.

Let’s see, you have taken Broner’s side In every one of those court cases saying that the girls lying. You love Adonis even though he was a pimp, claiming that there’s no evidence even though he was convicted of it. These are just from memory. If I had no life like you and just sitting around all day instead of working, I’d find more.

You are constantly speaking out about the “race card” like you’ve just been through so much of it and it hurts. Awwwww....poor you. You’ve really had it tough ha buddy. You are clueless to what happens in the big world. You only know what’s happening in your small white neighborhood. I bet you haven’t seen anyone but white people so far today? You will lie and claim to have but we all know you’re lying. You are a clueless dude.

You’re making stuff up.

You aren’t a victim, so don’t pretend you are, because you’re the only one lying and attacking others.

You can’t prove anything you’ve claimed, because it never fûckîng happened!

If you’re convinced I’m wrong or lying, then either fûckîng prove it or shut the fûck up you brainless twàt!

By the way, Max Kellerman didn’t say anything offensive to Terence Crawford!

What’s the funniest part about this new low for EO OP is that you were the one drawing attention to racial implication of the whole interview by posting it! You were the one so butthurt by some people taking offense to it that you took time out of your day to broadcast your agenda and belief that you’re fed up with black people unjustifiably using the race card. You want to be the judge if someone should be hurt by a comment now. The whole basis of ur point and OP is RACIST! Lol. That’s how so incredibly dumb and shallow you are that you don’t even see that.

What is lost in it all of this was TC’s reply. It was an interesting take and he calmly explained why he’s not one of those type of personalities. Even Max said it was interesting and he’s the one taking heat today for asking it. You hit the buzzer on this one and took ur shallow stance bc you are not smart enough to understand how interesting his point really was. I’m done. I can’t argue with inconsiderate people. Move on.

[Enlightened-One]

Let’s see, you have taken Broner’s side In every one of those court cases saying that the girls lying. You love Adonis even though he was a pimp, claiming that there’s no evidence even though he was convicted of it. These are just from memory. If I had no life like you and just sitting around all day instead of working, I’d find more.

You are constantly speaking out about the “race card” like you’ve just been through so much of it and it hurts. Awwwww....poor you. You’ve really had it tough ha buddy. You are clueless to what happens in the big world. You only know what’s happening in your small white neighborhood. I bet you haven’t seen anyone but white people so far today? You will lie and claim to have but we all know you’re lying. You are a clueless dude.

You’re making stuff up.

You aren’t a victim, so don’t pretend you are, because you’re the only one lying and attacking others.

You can’t prove anything you’ve claimed, because it never fûckîng happened!

If you’re convinced I’m wrong or lying, then either fûckîng prove it or shut the fûck up you brainless twàt!

By the way, Max Kellerman didn’t say anything offensive to Terence Crawford!

What’s the funniest part about this new low for EO OP is that you were the one drawing attention to racial implication of the whole interview by posting it! You were the one so butthurt by some people taking offense to it that you took time out of your day to broadcast your agenda and belief that you’re fed up with black people unjustifiably using the race card. You want to be the judge if someone should be hurt by a comment now. The whole basis of ur point and OP is RACIST! Lol. That’s how so incredibly dumb and shallow you are that you don’t even see that.

What is lost in it all of this was TC’s reply. It was an interesting take and he calmly explained why he’s not one of those type of personalities. Even Max said it was interesting and he’s the one taking heat today for asking it. You hit the buzzer on this one and took ur shallow stance bc you are not smart enough to understand how interesting his point really was. I’m done. I can’t argue with inconsiderate people. Move on.

What you fail to appreciate, is that instead of calmly proposing a carefully-considered argument based on the facts at hand, you instead chose to lie.

First you attacked Max Kellerman for claiming he said something race-related, when he uttered no such words.

And when I challenged your blatantly misinterpreted and derogatory point-of-view and asked you to justify it, you realised you were wrong and out of sheer frustration, you started attacking me instead.

You then accused me of all sorts of dodgy shenanigans. And when I asked you to prove your words, once again you knew you were wrong and threw your rattle out of your pram.

Your lies create these situations, as you claim things that you cannot prove, because they never happened.

And that’s on you!

[caldo2025]

You’re making stuff up.

You aren’t a victim, so don’t pretend you are, because you’re the only one lying and attacking others.

You can’t prove anything you’ve claimed, because it never fûckîng happened!

If you’re convinced I’m wrong or lying, then either fûckîng prove it or shut the fûck up you brainless twàt!

By the way, Max Kellerman didn’t say anything offensive to Terence Crawford!

What’s the funniest part about this new low for EO OP is that you were the one drawing attention to racial implication of the whole interview by posting it! You were the one so butthurt by some people taking offense to it that you took time out of your day to broadcast your agenda and belief that you’re fed up with black people unjustifiably using the race card. You want to be the judge if someone should be hurt by a comment now. The whole basis of ur point and OP is RACIST! Lol. That’s how so incredibly dumb and shallow you are that you don’t even see that.

What is lost in it all of this was TC’s reply. It was an interesting take and he calmly explained why he’s not one of those type of personalities. Even Max said it was interesting and he’s the one taking heat today for asking it. You hit the buzzer on this one and took ur shallow stance bc you are not smart enough to understand how interesting his point really was. I’m done. I can’t argue with inconsiderate people. Move on.

What you fail to appreciate, is that instead of calmly proposing a carefully-considered argument based on the facts at hand, you instead chose to lie.

First you attacked Max Kellerman for claiming he said something race-related, when he uttered no such words.

And when I challenged your blatantly misinterpreted and derogatory point-of-view and asked you to justify it, you realised you were wrong and out of sheer frustration, you started attacking me instead.

You then accused me of all sorts of dodgy shenanigans. And when I asked you to prove your words, once again you knew you were wrong and threw your rattle out of your pram.

Your lies create these situations, as you claim things that you cannot prove, because they never happened.

And that’s on you!

I attacked Max by stating my opinion that his question had a “hint” of racial overtones? That’s attacking? Attacking is what I did to you by throwing your previous bigotry back at you. And, no. I don’t think enough of you to read through your hatred again and teach you when and where you were inconsiderate. That’s something your parents or teachers should have done.

Or we could just wait until tomorrow because there’s another warrant out for Broner’s arrest for assaulting yet another woman. I know. You have to hear the facts first before giving Broner any heat for it. Ugh. Not my job dude. Take your own initiative to smarten up.

[Enlightened-One]

What’s the funniest part about this new low for EO OP is that you were the one drawing attention to racial implication of the whole interview by posting it! You were the one so butthurt by some people taking offense to it that you took time out of your day to broadcast your agenda and belief that you’re fed up with black people unjustifiably using the race card. You want to be the judge if someone should be hurt by a comment now. The whole basis of ur point and OP is RACIST! Lol. That’s how so incredibly dumb and shallow you are that you don’t even see that.

What is lost in it all of this was TC’s reply. It was an interesting take and he calmly explained why he’s not one of those type of personalities. Even Max said it was interesting and he’s the one taking heat today for asking it. You hit the buzzer on this one and took ur shallow stance bc you are not smart enough to understand how interesting his point really was. I’m done. I can’t argue with inconsiderate people. Move on.

What you fail to appreciate, is that instead of calmly proposing a carefully-considered argument based on the facts at hand, you instead chose to lie.

First you attacked Max Kellerman for claiming he said something race-related, when he uttered no such words.

And when I challenged your blatantly misinterpreted and derogatory point-of-view and asked you to justify it, you realised you were wrong and out of sheer frustration, you started attacking me instead.

You then accused me of all sorts of dodgy shenanigans. And when I asked you to prove your words, once again you knew you were wrong and threw your rattle out of your pram.

Your lies create these situations, as you claim things that you cannot prove, because they never happened.

And that’s on you!

I attacked Max by stating my opinion that his question had a “hint” of racial overtones? That’s attacking? Attacking is what I did to you by throwing your previous bigotry back at you. And, no. I don’t think enough of you to read through your hatred again and teach you when and where you were inconsiderate. That’s something your parents or teachers should have done.

Or we could just wait until tomorrow because there’s another warrant out for Broner’s arrest for assaulting yet another woman. I know. You have to hear the facts first before giving Broner any heat for it. Ugh. Not my job dude. Take your own initiative to smarten up.

You’re a compulsive liar. You’d be good at writing fictional stories! Who knows, perhaps you could be the next J. K. Rowling?

[skanksta]

Actualy, i think black fighter, who will act nice outside of ring will get a lot of nonblack fans IMO and that eman a lot of money.

I would have no interest in Broner at all if he wasn't the 24 carat cant that he is !

I love watching his whole disgraceful car-crash of a persona. And it's great being a Broner fan, because I'm just as happy when he gets a good hiding.

[skanksta]

Crawford has deep seeded anger issues that I believe are rooted in his mother’s nastiness. He projects those onto anyone who he detects setting expectations for him, as well as anyone he faces off against.

I suspect that his angry response is subconsciously aimed at his mother, who I further suspect of attempting to influence him to be more of the stereotypical arrogant, mouthy black boxer, i.e. FMJ, Charlos, Ali.

I like Bud just the way he is; supremely skilled with a massive mommy chip on his shoulder.

What mother issues are you referring to?

Someone posted a stunning piece of writing about Crawford on here. Fascinating insight in to the making of the man. To cut a long story short - his mother is a vile woman and her inability to love and cherish her child has made him what he is. A badasss, angry man with a huge chip on his shoulder. Like RJJ and his dad - he's really fighting her in the ring.

If anyone can post up the piece I'd be grateful - sort of writing you wouldn't mind reading twice.

[skanksta]

Found it.

Great writing, great subject...

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id ... d-crawford

[skanksta]

How the heck can you take TC’s response any other way then genuine and honest. He’s absolutely right. I love what he said and anyone that has issue with what he said is reading into it. He’s a quiet guy so I assume that he’s heard a lot of people ask him the question and his answer was perfect. Get bent you honkies that take issue with it.

And that question has never been asked to any whitish boxers that I’d ever heard. So the question is in itself has a hint of racism if you ask me.

Just about every boxer in Britain that isn't a ticket seller gets asked that.
Terry Flanagan got asked it before every fight.

[caldo2025]

How the heck can you take TC’s response any other way then genuine and honest. He’s absolutely right. I love what he said and anyone that has issue with what he said is reading into it. He’s a quiet guy so I assume that he’s heard a lot of people ask him the question and his answer was perfect. Get bent you honkies that take issue with it.

And that question has never been asked to any whitish boxers that I’d ever heard. So the question is in itself has a hint of racism if you ask me.

Just about every boxer in Britain that isn't a ticket seller gets asked that.
Terry Flanagan got asked it before every fight.

Thank god the Brits are the only one watching those fighters and announcers. Sounds intelligent.

[skanksta]

How the heck can you take TC’s response any other way then genuine and honest. He’s absolutely right. I love what he said and anyone that has issue with what he said is reading into it. He’s a quiet guy so I assume that he’s heard a lot of people ask him the question and his answer was perfect. Get bent you honkies that take issue with it.

And that question has never been asked to any whitish boxers that I’d ever heard. So the question is in itself has a hint of racism if you ask me.

Just about every boxer in Britain that isn't a ticket seller gets asked that.
Terry Flanagan got asked it before every fight.

Thank god the Brits are the only one watching those fighters and announcers. Sounds intelligent.

It's a perfectly reasonable question.

Having read the whole thread I think you're probably right - EO was trying to stir up some race sh1te, but that doesn't mean that it's not a valid question.

[brilo33]

Crawford was definitely was a little sensitive there, but I think he makes somewhat of a valid point.

Black fighters are almost expected to be more loud and obnoxious outside of the ring. Mayweather Jnr is a big reason for that though.

so not ali then?

[Nondescript]

Crawford was definitely was a little sensitive there, but I think he makes somewhat of a valid point.

Black fighters are almost expected to be more loud and obnoxious outside of the ring. Mayweather Jnr is a big reason for that though.

so not ali then?

Obviously Ali aswell. I was thinking of in more recent times though. Ali set the blue print though in regards to getting mainstream attention.