Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

Who wins?

Poll ended at 26 Jan 2019, 11:43

Kownacki - Decision
13
34%
Kownacki - K/TKO
20
53%
DRAW
1
3%
Washington - K/TKO
1
3%
Washington - Decision
3
8%
 
Total votes: 38

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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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Cent0089 wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 17:09 Just watched weigh in. I know this is not fitness contest but i cannot believe someone with Kownackis physique can have serious boxing skills like he has. He need to cut at least 30 pounds
LOL! I was just watching that! He's pale as a ghost as well. Looks like he stay puffed marshmellow man.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 16:27 Kownacki was five pounds lighter at 258 1/2 LBS, than when he weighed in for his fight against Charles Martin, but 13 lbs heavier than when he fought Szpilka.

Washington weighed 243¼ pounds 9 1/4 LBS heavier than when he fought John Wesley Nofire.
i'm disappointed, i expected him to weigh 250lbs
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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dagilechia wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 17:30
oogiebe wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 16:27 Kownacki was five pounds lighter at 258 1/2 LBS, than when he weighed in for his fight against Charles Martin, but 13 lbs heavier than when he fought Szpilka.

Washington weighed 243¼ pounds 9 1/4 LBS heavier than when he fought John Wesley Nofire.
i'm disappointed, i expected him to weigh 250lbs
Carrying that sort of weight on his frame has to be an issue.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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220 would be his ideal weight. This amount of fat surely wont help him in fight. Wont be surprised if he cannot defeat Washington.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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Cent0089 wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 17:43 220 would be his ideal weight. This amount of fat surely wont help him in fight. Wont be surprised if he cannot defeat Washington.
Agreed. Washington can win this.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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Washington really needs to work on relaxing in the ring, picking his pace and having some sort of mental strategy so he doesn’t just unfold when he starts breathing hard.

This kownacki bloke will make him work which is really a Washington nightmare unless he is improved. But Kown is hittable and can be outboxed so Washington also has a shot maybe only an early window to damage him however the later is goes and if no improvements then you’d think Washington will start absorbing a beating.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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lazboy wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 18:38 Washington really needs to work on relaxing in the ring, picking his pace and having some sort of mental strategy so he doesn’t just unfold when he starts breathing hard.

This kownacki bloke will make him work which is really a Washington nightmare unless he is improved. But Kown is hittable and can be outboxed so Washington also has a shot maybe only an early window to damage him however the later is goes and if no improvements then you’d think Washington will start absorbing a beating.
Fair enough. :TU:
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 16:32 Kownacki is no better. IMHO. I'm NEVER saying Washington is any better than domestic level. I'm really downplaying Kownacki's prowess. How he's in the top 10-15 is beyond me. I know the division is thin, but really? He'll be exposed.
I guess the difference for me is that Kownacki has victories over Spzilka and Martin. Who i rate around 30-40. Martin hasn't really earned his ranking there, but Spzilka did beat Adamek and Wach(controversially), so he has some credibility. It's difficult whether to compare it by victories or just the eye-test because they both have their flaws. As for Kownacki being ranked top 15, unfortunately not enough top 25 boxers face other top 25 boxers and therefore beating someone in the top 25 automatically moves you top the top 10/15.

Also, i don't really rate him either, he blocks with his face and i see someone like Chisora dealing with him. The new guys coming through like Hrgovic, Kuzmin and Joyce will push him out of the top 15 when they get a couple more wins under their belts.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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joshj909 wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 19:33
oogiebe wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 16:32 Kownacki is no better. IMHO. I'm NEVER saying Washington is any better than domestic level. I'm really downplaying Kownacki's prowess. How he's in the top 10-15 is beyond me. I know the division is thin, but really? He'll be exposed.
I guess the difference for me is that Kownacki has victories over Spzilka and Martin. Who i rate around 30-40. Martin hasn't really earned his ranking there, but Spzilka did beat Adamek and Wach(controversially), so he has some credibility. It's difficult whether to compare it by victories or just the eye-test because they both have their flaws. As for Kownacki being ranked top 15, unfortunately not enough top 25 boxers face other top 25 boxers and therefore beating someone in the top 25 automatically moves you top the top 10/15.

Also, i don't really rate him either, he blocks with his face and i see someone like Chisora dealing with him. The new guys coming through like Hrgovic, Kuzmin and Joyce will push him out of the top 15 when they get a couple more wins under their belts.
Nice post. Although I disagree on any weight of Spzilka; Adamek, nor Wach. Beating Martin is ok, I guess, but Martin really doesn't have any wins of note. His best win was because of a leg injury.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 19:27
lazboy wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 18:38 Washington really needs to work on relaxing in the ring, picking his pace and having some sort of mental strategy so he doesn’t just unfold when he starts breathing hard.

This kownacki bloke will make him work which is really a Washington nightmare unless he is improved. But Kown is hittable and can be outboxed so Washington also has a shot maybe only an early window to damage him however the later is goes and if no improvements then you’d think Washington will start absorbing a beating.
Fair enough. :TU:
X2
I just can't help but think Washington will gas.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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Adam "it's not a bodybuilding contest" Kownacki rarely leaves the gym he shares with Jarell Miller. Equipped with a full Buffet, why would he?
Here is a rare picture of him doing a street run
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Guests at the weigh in today were advised to don protective eyewear as the glare from Adam "whiter shade of pale" Kownacki as he took to the stage
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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KiwiRider wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 21:09 Adam "it's not a bodybuilding contest" Kownacki rarely leaves the gym he shares with Jarell Miller. Equipped with a full Buffet, why would he?
Here is a rare picture of him doing a street run
Image
Guests at the weigh in today were advised to don protective eyewear as the glare from Adam "whiter shade of pale" Kownacki as he took to the stage
Image
absolutely LMFAO! Neon Kownacki!
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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Lol!
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 11:53
candyslim wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 07:00 Yes I think this is a decent match although not an excellent match because the outcome is not in a lot of doubt. I see it as about 70/30 in favour of Kownacki. Maybe 65/35.

Now Jennings v Rivas was an excellent match before and during because I didn't have a scooby who was going to win from the moment when the fight was first mentioned a month or two before, right up to round nine or so when I decided who was going to win ... and then I was wrong anyway.
Your honesty is admirable! Washington by decision here. He has a new trainer and new, more aggressive style (we'll see how that goes under fire).
Thanks Oogie I always try to be honest. Of course that's not to say I don't have my biasses and prejudices but they were come-by honestly and I'm true to them :D

Good for you sticking to your guns despite the weight of contrary opinion :TU:


KiwiRider wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 21:09 Adam "it's not a bodybuilding contest" Kownacki rarely leaves the gym he shares with Jarell Miller. Equipped with a full Buffet, why would he?
Here is a rare picture of him doing a street run
Image
Guests at the weigh in today were advised to don protective eyewear as the glare from Adam "whiter shade of pale" Kownacki as he took to the stage
Image
Excellent! :clap:
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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Kownacki is not great, but entertaining, i sometimes compare him with other USA-Based Polish fighters, he's HW version of Andrzej Fonfara or Paweł Wolak, he's entertaining, let's his hands go, his only defence is his face, he is not great but he will convincingly beat Washington
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 17:44
Cent0089 wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 17:43 220 would be his ideal weight. This amount of fat surely wont help him in fight. Wont be surprised if he cannot defeat Washington.
Agreed. Washington can win this.
You've convinced me.
10/1 Washington to win by dec is a huge price. Washington is flaky and unreliable - he'll doubtless find a way to lose even if he gets his nose in front, but still that's big odds. He only needs to have a good night and stick to his boxing and he takes this on length.
Kownacki is little more than a rich man's Dave Allen after all.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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skanksta wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 16:28
oogiebe wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 17:44
Cent0089 wrote: 25 Jan 2019, 17:43 220 would be his ideal weight. This amount of fat surely wont help him in fight. Wont be surprised if he cannot defeat Washington.
Agreed. Washington can win this.
You've convinced me.
10/1 Washington to win by dec is a huge price. Washington is flaky and unreliable - he'll doubtless find a way to lose even if he gets his nose in front, but still that's big odds. He only needs to have a good night and stick to his boxing and he takes this on length.
Kownacki is little more than a rich man's Dave Allen after all.
:TU: Best of luck!
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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Thing with Washington is, he usually gasses after 4-5 rounds. Shame really.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 16:35 Thing with Washington is, he usually gasses after 4-5 rounds. Shame really.
True. I'm hoping he/his team have learned that lesson and we get a decent fight. I'm not fussed who wins really, but a nice 10-12 rounds of B level HW action would be good to start the year.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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i like adam, yeah he is not the most gifted world class boxer. but he is honesty tough.and will fire punches from the first bell , think he will win tonight , dont think washington will handel the pressure of kownacki
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

Post by skanksta »

Nyambayar opens the show.
6/1 for a dec win.
:box:
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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skanksta wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 21:13 Nyambayar opens the show.
6/1 for a dec win.
:box:
Hmmm...I wonder who you bet on... :maybe:
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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1-1
Body shots edged that round for Nyambayar.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 21:19
skanksta wrote: 26 Jan 2019, 21:13 Nyambayar opens the show.
6/1 for a dec win.
:box:
Hmmm...I wonder who you bet on... :maybe:
Nyambayar looks too powerful.
Hopefully Marrero gives up trying to win and focuses on going the distance.
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Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019

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2-1 Nyambayar

Hurt Marrero a couple of times in that round.
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