Joshua vs whyte 2 its' official 13.4

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leejonesjnr wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 05:41
smiling assassin wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 04:52 I know Josh sells big but I wouldn't be surprised if it sells way short of his normal numbers. People seem to be turning on him now and rematching Whyte aint gonna change that
It will be interesting to find out.
Perception on here can be very different to what actually happens in the world at large.
True. Its interesting one and if the numbers are off then it will have to be Fury or Wilder after
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 05:50 It'll still sell well once all the hype starts,
I think so too.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 07:06
.....it's Whyte
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Everybody writing whyte off already based on what? It's always just one punch in this division. Like if aj gets caught like chisora did, he wouldn't even blink i guess cause he is so well built🤣

Will be a competitive fight & tough night for joshua definitely, whyte will leave it all in the ring.

Of course Joshua can catch him but i also wozldn't be surprised if whyte knocks him out. Regarding the actual outcome still i favor joshua but only slightly considering his assistance by ref & judge.
Only thing that would be surprising is whyte on points, which will never happen, not even if deserved.
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adislav123 wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 09:39 Everybody writing whyte off already based on what? It's always just one punch in this division. Like if aj gets caught like chisora did, he wouldn't even blink i guess cause he is so well built🤣

Will be a competitive fight & tough night for joshua definitely, whyte will leave it all in the ring.

Of course Joshua can catch him but i also wozldn't be surprised if whyte knocks him out. Regarding the actual outcome still i favor joshua but only slightly considering his assistance by ref & judge.
Only thing that would be surprising is whyte on points, which will never happen, not even if deserved.
Based on the fact he's knocked him out already.
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Be funny if Whyte won and then signed with Wazzer :lol:
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Their fist fight was a belter and I think the second one will be a cracking fight as well. Whyte has more than earned his shot and I fancy his chances. I can't see it going the distance, unless Joshua boxes ultra cautiously like he did against Parker, but something tells me he will want to KO Whyte and will go for it. Should be a belter.
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smiling assassin wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 09:45
adislav123 wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 09:39 Everybody writing whyte off already based on what? It's always just one punch in this division. Like if aj gets caught like chisora did, he wouldn't even blink i guess cause he is so well built🤣

Will be a competitive fight & tough night for joshua definitely, whyte will leave it all in the ring.

Of course Joshua can catch him but i also wozldn't be surprised if whyte knocks him out. Regarding the actual outcome still i favor joshua but only slightly considering his assistance by ref & judge.
Only thing that would be surprising is whyte on points, which will never happen, not even if deserved.
Based on the fact he's knocked him out already.
There are many examples where the loser has reversed a ko loss with a win,not saying it will happen,but it could.
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bigjack wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 11:42
smiling assassin wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 09:45
adislav123 wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 09:39 Everybody writing whyte off already based on what? It's always just one punch in this division. Like if aj gets caught like chisora did, he wouldn't even blink i guess cause he is so well built🤣

Will be a competitive fight & tough night for joshua definitely, whyte will leave it all in the ring.

Of course Joshua can catch him but i also wozldn't be surprised if whyte knocks him out. Regarding the actual outcome still i favor joshua but only slightly considering his assistance by ref & judge.
Only thing that would be surprising is whyte on points, which will never happen, not even if deserved.
Based on the fact he's knocked him out already.
There are many examples where the loser has reversed a ko loss with a win,not saying it will happen,but it could.
I was actually thinking about this earlier - how many examples of this are there? I couldn’t think of many where the underdog in both fights got ko’d in the first fight and then won the rematch?
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ILikeBeer wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 06:07 Image
LMFAO! Perfect! :lol:
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bigjack wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 11:42
smiling assassin wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 09:45
adislav123 wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 09:39 Everybody writing whyte off already based on what? It's always just one punch in this division. Like if aj gets caught like chisora did, he wouldn't even blink i guess cause he is so well built🤣

Will be a competitive fight & tough night for joshua definitely, whyte will leave it all in the ring.

Of course Joshua can catch him but i also wozldn't be surprised if whyte knocks him out. Regarding the actual outcome still i favor joshua but only slightly considering his assistance by ref & judge.
Only thing that would be surprising is whyte on points, which will never happen, not even if deserved.
Based on the fact he's knocked him out already.
There are many examples where the loser has reversed a ko loss with a win,not saying it will happen,but it could.
it could happen mate but I think the first fight was pretty conclusive and don't really warrant a rematch. Can't knock Whyte he's done what's been asked of him but for
Me it will be same again
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 11:50
bigjack wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 11:42
smiling assassin wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 09:45
Based on the fact he's knocked him out already.
There are many examples where the loser has reversed a ko loss with a win,not saying it will happen,but it could.
I was actually thinking about this earlier - how many examples of this are there? I couldn’t think of many where the underdog in both fights got ko’d in the first fight and then won the rematch?
Rematches are often different imo, as it only stands to reason that the loser in fight 1 will employ a different game plan.

I had backed Rios to KO Alvarado in fight 1 which came good. In the rematch I had a feeling Rios would just try to walk him down again but Mike would adjust, so I backed Alvarado by dec which came good too. (They had a 3rd fight in which Rios won by KO too, but I never seen the last bout)
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whyte won 1 round of first fight
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Whyte definitely has earned his shot. Just wish it would've come against somebody other than Joshua, but whatever. It'll be entertaining while it lasts.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 09:55 Be funny if Whyte won and then signed with Wazzer :lol:
I can imagine Matchroom have options on Whyte here.

I see a rematch clause and probably a piece of Whytes next 2-3 fights.
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RKY wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 12:34
Boxerbeetle wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 11:50
bigjack wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 11:42

There are many examples where the loser has reversed a ko loss with a win,not saying it will happen,but it could.
I was actually thinking about this earlier - how many examples of this are there? I couldn’t think of many where the underdog in both fights got ko’d in the first fight and then won the rematch?
Rematches are often different imo, as it only stands to reason that the loser in fight 1 will employ a different game plan.

I had backed Rios to KO Alvarado in fight 1 which came good. In the rematch I had a feeling Rios would just try to walk him down again but Mike would adjust, so I backed Alvarado by dec which came good too. (They had a 3rd fight in which Rios won by KO too, but I never seen the last bout)
Yes there’s often differences in rematches where the boxers are relatively evenly matched.

But how often are rematches different when the loser of the first fight (as the underdog of both fights) was so comprehensively beaten up & ko’d?
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 12:46
RKY wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 12:34
Boxerbeetle wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 11:50

I was actually thinking about this earlier - how many examples of this are there? I couldn’t think of many where the underdog in both fights got ko’d in the first fight and then won the rematch?
Rematches are often different imo, as it only stands to reason that the loser in fight 1 will employ a different game plan.

I had backed Rios to KO Alvarado in fight 1 which came good. In the rematch I had a feeling Rios would just try to walk him down again but Mike would adjust, so I backed Alvarado by dec which came good too. (They had a 3rd fight in which Rios won by KO too, but I never seen the last bout)
Yes there’s often differences in rematches where the boxers are relatively evenly matched.

But how often are rematches different when the loser of the first fight (as the underdog of both fights) was so comprehensively beaten up & ko’d?
very rarely indeed.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 09:55 Be funny if Whyte won and then signed with Wazzer :lol:
Whyte knows the deal. It’s clear from Franks most recent interview Whyte didn’t even pick up the phone to speak to Queensbury.

Mostly no doubt due to Frank slagging him and Chisora off in the run up to the PPV clash.
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jamamb wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 12:37 whyte won 1 round of first fight
Did he even win that round?

I can’t remember that round in particular but it was one shot, the same shot that has since sparked Browne and Chisora, and had Parker over ( yet the supposed chinny Joshua stayed up and actually fought back within a few seconds ), but did he do enough to win the round? I honestly don’t remember.
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lillywhite14 wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 13:48
jamamb wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 12:37 whyte won 1 round of first fight
Did he even win that round?

I can’t remember that round in particular but it was one shot, the same shot that has since sparked Browne and Chisora, and had Parker over ( yet the supposed chinny Joshua stayed up and actually fought back within a few seconds ), but did he do enough to win the round? I honestly don’t remember.
Joshua won every round (can't remember which one he was tagged in) he was stunned but not staggered. And it wasn't the same full body left hook that took out Chisora and Browne. It was a shorter counter left.
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oogiebe wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 13:57
lillywhite14 wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 13:48
jamamb wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 12:37 whyte won 1 round of first fight
Did he even win that round?

I can’t remember that round in particular but it was one shot, the same shot that has since sparked Browne and Chisora, and had Parker over ( yet the supposed chinny Joshua stayed up and actually fought back within a few seconds ), but did he do enough to win the round? I honestly don’t remember.
Joshua won every round (can't remember which one he was tagged in) he was stunned but not staggered. And it wasn't the same full body left hook that took out Chisora and Browne. It was a shorter counter left.
I think I neee to rewatch! :TU:
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lillywhite14 wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 14:16
oogiebe wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 13:57
lillywhite14 wrote: 28 Jan 2019, 13:48

Did he even win that round?

I can’t remember that round in particular but it was one shot, the same shot that has since sparked Browne and Chisora, and had Parker over ( yet the supposed chinny Joshua stayed up and actually fought back within a few seconds ), but did he do enough to win the round? I honestly don’t remember.
Joshua won every round (can't remember which one he was tagged in) he was stunned but not staggered. And it wasn't the same full body left hook that took out Chisora and Browne. It was a shorter counter left.
I think I neee to rewatch! :TU:
I was thinking the same for me! :OhYes:
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Joshua pre Wlad would have been a good time to fight for Whyte. Joshua post Wlad is a whole different (better) fighter.
It will be more lopsided than last time. Remember Whyte didn't win a round? He buzzed AJ with one punch and that was pretty much his only success. Now we have AJ confident, and a lot more experienced. Maybe he will prolong the fight for the fans, maybe he will KO Whyte in the first round.
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