I do rahman kicked his ass. Nobody that credits vitali for retiring Lewis gives Brahman that love for vitali.
1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
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Tuan_Jim
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Your guarantee is meaningless.gilgamesh wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:11Holyfield ain't Tyson. He wasn't gonna come in with a half assed training camp. He would've been able to handle and beat Buster Douglas. ANY Buster Douglas. I guarantee it.
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Tuan_Jim
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Serious question: Are you new to boxing? Holyfield and Tyson were famously scheduled to fight in 1991. Tyson got injured and Damiani stepped in. Damiani got injured and Bert Cooper stepped in. Tyson then got dragged into the Desiree Washington thing and imprisoned.apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:33Yup he fought everyone but after he got beaten and older. Cashed out or not , Douglas whooped Tyson and gave his first loss. Don't know the reason but Tyson didn't fight Holy after Holy became undisputed to take his titles back?Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:40"Wisely matched"? Tyson fought everyone. Who did he miss?apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:23 Povetkin was pretty good and a proved fighter / 2004 Olympic gold medalist. Tyson was wisely matched in his youth until he met James Douglas - a guy who was KO3 next by Holyfield.![]()
Douglas cashed out with his $24m versus Holyfield. He came in at his career highest weight. Literally everyone knows this except you.
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
gilgamesh wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:11Holyfield ain't Tyson. He wasn't gonna come in with a half assed training camp. He would've been able to handle and beat Buster Douglas. ANY Buster Douglas. I guarantee it.
People act like the version of Douglas that beat Tyson was some kind of superhuman and no one could've beat him in that night. lol
Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
mike by dq after wlad shits himself and all over the ring
or is that a no contest
or is that a no contest
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Yeah they all got injured at that time except Holy.Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:38Serious question: Are you new to boxing? Holyfield and Tyson were famously scheduled to fight in 1991. Tyson got injured and Damiani stepped in. Damiani got injured and Bert Cooper stepped in. Tyson then got dragged into the Desiree Washington thing and imprisoned.apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:33Yup he fought everyone but after he got beaten and older. Cashed out or not , Douglas whooped Tyson and gave his first loss. Don't know the reason but Tyson didn't fight Holy after Holy became undisputed to take his titles back?
Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
?second sentence?Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:36I do rahman kicked his ass. Nobody that credits vitali for retiring Lewis gives Brahman that love for vitali.
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Vitali pulled out of a few fights and then retired. Didn't even fight him after returning. I think Klitschko was injured like Lewis was old, but if you use one you should use both.oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:44?second sentence?Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:36I do rahman kicked his ass. Nobody that credits vitali for retiring Lewis gives Brahman that love for vitali.
Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Thanks for clarifying. I agree. I don't get the hate on LL. One of the greatest HW's in history, IMHO. Size; power; speed; and great ring sense (other than two times he got 'overconfident.') Beat everyone he ever fought. Vitali had a weak resume and looked pretty novice at times. Wlad was lucky he had Steward squeeze the best of him. If they never hooked up, we wouldn't be talking about Wlad at all. Two words...Ross Purity.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:47Vitali pulled out of a few fights and then retired. Didn't even fight him after returning. I think Klitschko was injured like Lewis was old, but if you use one you should use both.oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:44?second sentence?Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:36
I do rahman kicked his ass. Nobody that credits vitali for retiring Lewis gives Brahman that love for vitali.
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Rahman beat him too!
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Is that so, I stand corrected, however, it's undeniable that facing Tyson without a tuneup was arrogance bordering on foolhardiness.Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:38James, Holmes is interviewed immediately after Tyson/Biggs and is actually discussing his upcoming Tyson challenge. Larry has successfully conned the public into thinking Don King somehow sprung the fight on him at short notice. He actually had more than three months to prepare.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:07holmes was very foolish to take on tyson with so little preparation, i think he only trained for 6 weeks after all that time out, his timing was clearly off i think with a couple of tuneups he may well have gone the distance with tyson.
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Technically Lennox is way ahead of anybody fighting now, Joshua comes closest at heavy, but he lacks the fluidity and poise of Lewis, and the ability to control the fight.oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:51Thanks for clarifying. I agree. I don't get the hate on LL. One of the greatest HW's in history, IMHO. Size; power; speed; and great ring sense (other than two times he got 'overconfident.') Beat everyone he ever fought. Vitali had a weak resume and looked pretty novice at times. Wlad was lucky he had Steward squeeze the best of him. If they never hooked up, we wouldn't be talking about Wlad at all. Two words...Ross Purity.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:47Vitali pulled out of a few fights and then retired. Didn't even fight him after returning. I think Klitschko was injured like Lewis was old, but if you use one you should use both.
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Didn't Holyfield also get injured the first time they nwere slated to fight?Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:38Serious question: Are you new to boxing? Holyfield and Tyson were famously scheduled to fight in 1991. Tyson got injured and Damiani stepped in. Damiani got injured and Bert Cooper stepped in. Tyson then got dragged into the Desiree Washington thing and imprisoned.apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:33Yup he fought everyone but after he got beaten and older. Cashed out or not , Douglas whooped Tyson and gave his first loss. Don't know the reason but Tyson didn't fight Holy after Holy became undisputed to take his titles back?
Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
No he wasn’t. Tyson was messed up by Robin Givens, drug addled, didn’t train and completely unprepared. Tyson lost that fight rather than Douglas winning it.Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:05Douglas that night may have done to Holyfield what Bowe did in 1992. He was that good.gilgamesh wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:55Quite a few people could've beaten Douglas the night Douglas beat Tyson. Tyson just wasn't one of 'em. Holyfield would've beaten him that night, though probably not in 3 rounds.oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 12:44
AGreed. When he fought Tyson, Douglas was at his very best after years of not living up to expectations. Everything fell into place for him for that fight. Many people wonder just who might have beaten him that night. Of course, he fell apart (again) after the fight and was a fat blimp when he fought Holyfield. Douglas was always an enigma.
Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
I beg to differ. It was a combination of the two, but more for what Douglas brought to the fight. Douglas was primo and Tyson had a condom on his face between rounds as his horrific corner forgot the end-swell. 'nuff said.Loki wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 15:48No he wasn’t. Tyson was messed up by Robin Givens, drug addled, didn’t train and completely unprepared. Tyson lost that fight rather than Douglas winning it.
Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Was that English? Sanders had Rahman in all kinds of trouble and it was a great fight. Sanders, although never conditioned was a dynamite puncher.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:36I do rahman kicked his ass. Nobody that credits vitali for retiring Lewis gives Brahman that love for vitali.
Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Yes, didn’t even have an ice bucket. I disagree, if Tyson showed up in shape, Douglas would’ve been iced. Buster just wasn’t very good.oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 15:51I beg to differ. It was a combination of the two, but more for what Douglas brought to the fight. Douglas was primo and Tyson had a condom on his face between rounds as his horrific corner forgot the end-swell. 'nuff said.
Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
Who is this oggibee? Has Wlad nailed his Mrs? I agree, IMO, Lewis closely followed by Vitali in terms of who I bet on to win across the HWs since 1988.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 15:41Technically Lennox is way ahead of anybody fighting now, Joshua comes closest at heavy, but he lacks the fluidity and poise of Lewis, and the ability to control the fight.oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:51Thanks for clarifying. I agree. I don't get the hate on LL. One of the greatest HW's in history, IMHO. Size; power; speed; and great ring sense (other than two times he got 'overconfident.') Beat everyone he ever fought. Vitali had a weak resume and looked pretty novice at times. Wlad was lucky he had Steward squeeze the best of him. If they never hooked up, we wouldn't be talking about Wlad at all. Two words...Ross Purity.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:47
Vitali pulled out of a few fights and then retired. Didn't even fight him after returning. I think Klitschko was injured like Lewis was old, but if you use one you should use both.
Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
oogie thinks wilder knocks out prime bowe in 1 ![[icon_e_surprised.gif] :oo](./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif)
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
My smartphone doesn't permit literacy.Loki wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 15:52Was that English? Sanders had Rahman in all kinds of trouble and it was a great fight. Sanders, although never conditioned was a dynamite puncher.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:36I do rahman kicked his ass. Nobody that credits vitali for retiring Lewis gives Brahman that love for vitali.
Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
With who his opponents were, I'd have bet on Vitali as well. Lewis was the class of the division during his reigns and one of the best all time HW's. I remember you from other threads. You are the guy who is in love with the K's and think they were some sort of tandem.Loki wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 15:57Who is this oggibee? Has Wlad nailed his Mrs? I agree, IMO, Lewis closely followed by Vitali in terms of who I bet on to win across the HWs since 1988.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 15:41Technically Lennox is way ahead of anybody fighting now, Joshua comes closest at heavy, but he lacks the fluidity and poise of Lewis, and the ability to control the fight.oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 13:51
Thanks for clarifying. I agree. I don't get the hate on LL. One of the greatest HW's in history, IMHO. Size; power; speed; and great ring sense (other than two times he got 'overconfident.') Beat everyone he ever fought. Vitali had a weak resume and looked pretty novice at times. Wlad was lucky he had Steward squeeze the best of him. If they never hooked up, we wouldn't be talking about Wlad at all. Two words...Ross Purity.
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Re: 1988 Mike Tyson vs 2011 Wladimir Klitschko - who would win this match ?
I’ve been on this forum since 2004 and loved boxing since 1985. I don’t love any boxer, but I think some of them deserve credit. The Klitschkos (love them or hate them) were damn fine boxers, sportsmen and dominated HW boxing from 2003 until 2014. Whatever the competition (you can only beat what’s in front of you) that deserves respect.oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 16:14With who his opponents were, I'd have bet on Vitali as well. Lewis was the class of the division during his reigns and one of the best all time HW's. I remember you from other threads. You are the guy who is in love with the K's and think they were some sort of tandem.Loki wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 15:57Who is this oggibee? Has Wlad nailed his Mrs? I agree, IMO, Lewis closely followed by Vitali in terms of who I bet on to win across the HWs since 1988.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 15:41
Technically Lennox is way ahead of anybody fighting now, Joshua comes closest at heavy, but he lacks the fluidity and poise of Lewis, and the ability to control the fight.
Trust me, I prefer Calzaghe, Gatti, Tszyu, Monzon and a host of others for different reasons over the Klitschkos.