Scott Harrison was pulled out of the St.Clair fight...

[fist]

I'm with Nick on this. You just read it and feel like screaming: "be a man and sort yourself out lad!"

Harrison should have been pragmatic, he felt down and di dwhatever he was doing, he should have imgined life without his title, his earning capabilities and the stuff it can bring his family, then seen if he was still depressed. He had everything in his grasp to take by the balls and now will probably be stripped of all he worked for.

Cant believe what Im hearing, u truly are ignorant. As for the use of alcohol to treat depression, its a common thing for those suffering from mental health issues, unfortunately, it makes things worse as it is a depressant.

Thinking about how lucky you are would not fully resolve depression, it might provide some motivation, but would not address deeper rooted causes or even chemical imbalances. Depression is complex and is without doubt self induced at times, however, this does not lessen the problem and reflects the viciousness of the circle that some depressives revolve around in terms of the effects of depression affecting depression, which in turn affects lifestyle which affects depression etcetera.

[nickd]

Anyway just because the Harrison camp say he's depressed does not make it so. Much better to admit he's depressed than hooked on drugs or a full blown alcoholic perhaps.

[fist]

Anyway just because the Harrison camp say he's depressed does not make it so. Much better to admit he's depressed than hooked on drugs or a full blown alcoholic perhaps.

Quite true, there is the possibility it is a cover up, however, if he is suffering in terms of addiction or indeed mental health then we should hope that he overcomes his problems.

[coneye]

Cannot believe how many bleeding hearts we have on here , most of you would be better off spending your time on other forums answering letters from fat depressed middle aged women who can't get a shag.

Facts are he's nothing but a pisshead with a drug habit who spends half his time big noting himself and bullying people in the pubs, The guy did'nt give a flying fack about all the people who have saved up to watch him , while others are working overtime to pay for there trip to Ireland to watch this pathetic loser, this ungrateful toerag is out on the piss with his mate's and sticking shit up his nose.

Get real the guy knew what he's doing and did'nt care , he's now crying because he's gone too far and it could cost him his promoter and his belt, Tell you something else has well St Clair would of took his belt anyway, They underestimated Gary and personally i think they knew it .

Do you lot really believe he did'nt know the fight was going to be canceled when he was in nightclubs a week before, the only thing here is DID WARREN AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOW

The guy should be brought before the boxing board and have is liscence pulled and the reasons are simple

If he knew and was pulling out for any other reason than medical he brought the sport into disrepute and conned the public.

If he really is depressed well who wants a depressed alchaholic junkie in the ring anyway

[fist]

If he really is depressed well who wants a depressed alchaholic junkie in the ring anyway

Precisely, if he is depressed he could not be expected to go ahead with the fight, simply for the game and his health. All the best to him - career has to take a backseat compared to someones health.

[silkov]

Cannot believe how many bleeding hearts we have on here , most of you would be better off spending your time on other forums answering letters from fat depressed middle aged women who can't get a shag.

Facts are he's nothing but a pisshead with a drug habit who spends half his time big noting himself and bullying people in the pubs, The guy did'nt give a flying fack about all the people who have saved up to watch him , while others are working overtime to pay for there trip to Ireland to watch this pathetic loser, this ungrateful toerag is out on the piss with his mate's and sticking shit up his nose.

Get real the guy knew what he's doing and did'nt care , he's now crying because he's gone too far and it could cost him his promoter and his belt, Tell you something else has well St Clair would of took his belt anyway, They underestimated Gary and personally i think they knew it .

Do you lot really believe he did'nt know the fight was going to be canceled when he was in nightclubs a week before, the only thing here is DID WARREN AND EVERYONE ELSE KNOW

The guy should be brought before the boxing board and have is liscence pulled and the reasons are simple

If he knew and was pulling out for any other reason than medical he brought the sport into disrepute and conned the public.

If he really is depressed well who wants a depressed alchaholic junkie in the ring anyway

And what are you?... you're just a sad bigot whose taking pleasure from another mans problems... what have you ever done in the ring?... or out of it for that matter?... naff all I bet!... 8)

[silkov]

Threads like this are always interesting as some people tend to show themselves as the narrow minded twits that they are...

[silkov]

Anyway just because the Harrison camp say he's depressed does not make it so. Much better to admit he's depressed than hooked on drugs or a full blown alcoholic perhaps.

So you really think that Harrisons people would make up something like this?... are they looking for good publicity do you think?... for your information they have said that Scott is suffering from depression and alcohol problems, so where is that hiding the fact that he has an alcohol problem???>..... how old are you anyway??.... you really haven't got a clue about what you're talking about have you...

[nickd]

I'm 32. No need to be patronising everyone is entitled to their opinion. Harrison is a twat as far as I am concerned. I hope he gets better soon though. Of course I would never wish something like this on anyone but what goes around come around he has behaved like a pudendum many a time.

[coneye]

[quote="silkov"
And what are you?... you're just a sad bigot whose taking pleasure from another mans problems... what have you ever done in the ring?... or out of it for that matter?... naff all I bet!... 8)[/quote]


No i'm not a bigot i'm a realist fack all the bleeding heart left wing liberals the guys a wanker he's a bully and a fackin junkie. Depresion my arse its a excuse he facked up and he's scared of losing his belt and his promoter.

He aint depressed when he's swanning round the place with his gang of arselickers , being a bully and a tosser.

Regarding my exploits in the ring world champ No , but starting at 10 and fighting has an ameteur for years finishing at 32 has a pro then a long long time training both ameteurs and pro's , and still going to the gym 2-3 times a week to work out and spar not that any of that matters in the least , personally i don't see what I or anyone else done or does in the ring has to do with voicing a opinion on a boxing forum.

The problem with boxing fans is simple they let there hero's shit on them and can never see no wrong. This guy stuffed up bigtime and in any case WHY was he in a nightclub a week before the fight unless he knew he was not fighting.

Harrison KNEW PEOPLE WERE\ARE BUYING TICKETS TOO SEE HIM, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, HE DON'T GIVE A FACK THAT THEY HAVE SPENT THERE HARD EARNED WAGES TO SUPPORT HIM , Whats this little prick doing while others are working overtime to get the money to support him ,RUNNING ROUND PUBS AND CLUBS PLAYING THE HARD MAN , STICKING SHIT UP HIS NOSE.

Difference with you and me mate is simple u come home and find a burgular you would say don't forget the tele its not your fault lifes been hard , me i'd smash his face in beat him so bad his own mother would'nt recognize him and not once would i feel sorry for him

It never seems to amaze me the amount of peole who believe all the shite there told. Harrisons problems are the same problems a lot of other boxers have faced, He like to drink and swan around the pubs and clubs, demanding respect and recognition, but he don't like to put the hard work in any more , He's scared of getting beat and losing so he makes excuses .

BOO fackin hoo Strip him of his belt and his liscence and let him carry on until he hurts someone in the street and then lock him up, Cos mark my words thats where he's heading, and who knows, might even be u he chins when he's out on the town drug facked and pissed.with his arselickers in tow

[jamesmcdonnell]

Clinical depression is often caused by chemical imbalances, and there is a strong genetic component to

Whilst one man might be able to cope with a series of unfortunate events and pick himself up, another caves in and cannot cope. The difference is the mindset of the two men and their mental resources, we all have a different set of experiences and we are all genetically different and predisposed towards certain tendencies. Alchoholism is a perfect example, saying that you can just 'sort your life out' is like saying to an Alchoholic 'just stop drinking.' It's not that simple. If you are born with the genes which mean you have an addictive personality disorder, (genes they have already identified) you are much more likely to become and alchoholic and will find it much harder to break those habits than others.

[silkov]

Clinical depression is often caused by chemical imbalances, and there is a strong genetic component to

Whilst one man might be able to cope with a series of unfortunate events and pick himself up, another caves in and cannot cope. The difference is the mindset of the two men and their mental resources, we all have a different set of experiences and we are all genetically different and predisposed towards certain tendencies. Alchoholism is a perfect example, saying that you can just 'sort your life out' is like saying to an Alchoholic 'just stop drinking.' It's not that simple. If you are born with the genes which mean you have an addictive personality disorder, (genes they have already identified) you are much more likely to become and alchoholic and will find it much harder to break those habits than others.

The fact that alcoholism and depression are illnesses seems to be a concept that many others on this thread find it hard to grasp... its like saying to someone with Flu 'just stop sneezing!'....

[celticwarrior]

You obviously have never experienced or known anyone who has experineced depression.... you don't decide to be depressed, just as you don't decide to have other illnesses... often heavy use of alcohol and drugs is caused by depression... if someone is smug and happy with themselves why would they want to get out of their heads... we actually live in a depressed society but most people are too dazed to realise it...

Cant believe what Im hearing, u truly are ignorant. As for the use of alcohol to treat depression, its a common thing for those suffering from mental health issues, unfortunately, it makes things worse as it is a depressant.

Thinking about how lucky you are would not fully resolve depression, it might provide some motivation, but would not address deeper rooted causes or even chemical imbalances. Depression is complex and is without doubt self induced at times, however, this does not lessen the problem and reflects the viciousness of the circle that some depressives revolve around in terms of the effects of depression affecting depression, which in turn affects lifestyle which affects depression etcetera.

Sorry guys but you are both ignorant at worst or liberal bleeding hearts wannabe social workers at best. I know you are bound to get some ignorant people on forums but those posts take the Michael.

First off I know a fair bit about depression, never suffered myself as I'm not a half-man, as a childhood friend of mine suffered from "depression" for years before curing himself via suicide. Now there are two kinds of mental illness, chemical imbalances and such that cause schizophrenia and the like and plain and simple wallowing/weakness that causes depression and its precursor stress.

My friend had nothing wrong with him chemically, he just did too much Charlie, LSD and drank too much. He also wasn't man enough to get his relationship on an equal footing and he let his bird and her half-wit kids get him down. His answer was to sit around drinking all day and feeling pity for himself. He then killed himself at the age of 19 when he all he had to do was take his life by the balls. People said it was a tragedy when it was really a farce, he was weak and depressed, people are capable of helping themselves but are too weak to do so and rely on bleeding hearts like yourself to work hard and provide them with the means to wallow in depression whilst living off the state.

If Scott Harrison has, a non-drugs, chemical imbalance then fine, let him be treated but bear in mind his career is over because you probably cannot let a manic depressive box. If he is just a guy who cannot burn the candle at both ends and is getting all wobbly lipped about people looking at him in the local boozer then lets just ignore him or let him dry out at the celeb rehab place.

In the meantime we'll wait and see but I know a girl who is schizophrenic (I know, my crazy mates) and she has never done drugs or drank, yet her brain is so full of conflicting chemicals she will never be well and cannot care for herself. She looks bad, smells bad and is very ill but is shoved into the backs of hospitals in depressing wards and when she gets out sporadically she won't be able to appear in Scottish "Hello" magazine crying about how hellish it has been. Her illness is not in vogue like depression and stress is.

Non-chemical depression is self-treatable, you face it up and take control. Inside us is a compass that tells us right from wrong no matter how badly we are brought up and Scott is in the wrong. He should have overcome his demons with his high achievement marks but instead is prancing about boozers a week before he due to go to work. That is not depression, it is being a bit of a dick and those depressed masses Silkov mentions are doing the same thing and people like you guys let them off with it.

Harrison should be a man and take control of the situation. In a highly feminised world the best way to cure this depression issue is not touchy feely "My father never bought me a pony" sessions but a good dose of pride and masculinity. I'd have thought Scott was above all this nonsense.

Good post.

[silkov]

You obviously have never experienced or known anyone who has experineced depression.... you don't decide to be depressed, just as you don't decide to have other illnesses... often heavy use of alcohol and drugs is caused by depression... if someone is smug and happy with themselves why would they want to get out of their heads... we actually live in a depressed society but most people are too dazed to realise it...

Cant believe what Im hearing, u truly are ignorant. As for the use of alcohol to treat depression, its a common thing for those suffering from mental health issues, unfortunately, it makes things worse as it is a depressant.

Thinking about how lucky you are would not fully resolve depression, it might provide some motivation, but would not address deeper rooted causes or even chemical imbalances. Depression is complex and is without doubt self induced at times, however, this does not lessen the problem and reflects the viciousness of the circle that some depressives revolve around in terms of the effects of depression affecting depression, which in turn affects lifestyle which affects depression etcetera.

Sorry guys but you are both ignorant at worst or liberal bleeding hearts wannabe social workers at best. I know you are bound to get some ignorant people on forums but those posts take the Michael.

First off I know a fair bit about depression, never suffered myself as I'm not a half-man, as a childhood friend of mine suffered from "depression" for years before curing himself via suicide. Now there are two kinds of mental illness, chemical imbalances and such that cause schizophrenia and the like and plain and simple wallowing/weakness that causes depression and its precursor stress.

My friend had nothing wrong with him chemically, he just did too much Charlie, LSD and drank too much. He also wasn't man enough to get his relationship on an equal footing and he let his bird and her half-wit kids get him down. His answer was to sit around drinking all day and feeling pity for himself. He then killed himself at the age of 19 when he all he had to do was take his life by the balls. People said it was a tragedy when it was really a farce, he was weak and depressed, people are capable of helping themselves but are too weak to do so and rely on bleeding hearts like yourself to work hard and provide them with the means to wallow in depression whilst living off the state.

If Scott Harrison has, a non-drugs, chemical imbalance then fine, let him be treated but bear in mind his career is over because you probably cannot let a manic depressive box. If he is just a guy who cannot burn the candle at both ends and is getting all wobbly lipped about people looking at him in the local boozer then lets just ignore him or let him dry out at the celeb rehab place.

In the meantime we'll wait and see but I know a girl who is schizophrenic (I know, my crazy mates) and she has never done drugs or drank, yet her brain is so full of conflicting chemicals she will never be well and cannot care for herself. She looks bad, smells bad and is very ill but is shoved into the backs of hospitals in depressing wards and when she gets out sporadically she won't be able to appear in Scottish "Hello" magazine crying about how hellish it has been. Her illness is not in vogue like depression and stress is.

Non-chemical depression is self-treatable, you face it up and take control. Inside us is a compass that tells us right from wrong no matter how badly we are brought up and Scott is in the wrong. He should have overcome his demons with his high achievement marks but instead is prancing about boozers a week before he due to go to work. That is not depression, it is being a bit of a dick and those depressed masses Silkov mentions are doing the same thing and people like you guys let them off with it.

Harrison should be a man and take control of the situation. In a highly feminised world the best way to cure this depression issue is not touchy feely "My father never bought me a pony" sessions but a good dose of pride and masculinity. I'd have thought Scott was above all this nonsense.

You have't a clue what you're talking about mate...

[silkov]

[quote="silkov"
And what are you?... you're just a sad bigot whose taking pleasure from another mans problems... what have you ever done in the ring?... or out of it for that matter?... naff all I bet!... 8)

No i'm not a bigot i'm a realist fack all the bleeding heart left wing liberals the guys a wanker he's a bully and a fackin junkie. Depresion my arse its a excuse he facked up and he's scared of losing his belt and his promoter.

He aint depressed when he's swanning round the place with his gang of arselickers , being a bully and a tosser.

Regarding my exploits in the ring world champ No , but starting at 10 and fighting has an ameteur for years finishing at 32 has a pro then a long long time training both ameteurs and pro's , and still going to the gym 2-3 times a week to work out and spar not that any of that matters in the least , personally i don't see what I or anyone else done or does in the ring has to do with voicing a opinion on a boxing forum.

The problem with boxing fans is simple they let there hero's shit on them and can never see no wrong. This guy stuffed up bigtime and in any case WHY was he in a nightclub a week before the fight unless he knew he was not fighting.

Harrison KNEW PEOPLE WERE\ARE BUYING TICKETS TOO SEE HIM, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, HE DON'T GIVE A FACK THAT THEY HAVE SPENT THERE HARD EARNED WAGES TO SUPPORT HIM , Whats this little prick doing while others are working overtime to get the money to support him ,RUNNING ROUND PUBS AND CLUBS PLAYING THE HARD MAN , STICKING SHIT UP HIS NOSE.

Difference with you and me mate is simple u come home and find a burgular you would say don't forget the tele its not your fault lifes been hard , me i'd smash his face in beat him so bad his own mother would'nt recognize him and not once would i feel sorry for him

It never seems to amaze me the amount of peole who believe all the shite there told. Harrisons problems are the same problems a lot of other boxers have faced, He like to drink and swan around the pubs and clubs, demanding respect and recognition, but he don't like to put the hard work in any more , He's scared of getting beat and losing so he makes excuses .

BOO fackin hoo Strip him of his belt and his liscence and let him carry on until he hurts someone in the street and then lock him up, Cos mark my words thats where he's heading, and who knows, might even be u he chins when he's out on the town drug facked and pissed.with his arselickers in tow[/quote]

If you have to fill this thread in with your caveman views at least do us all a favour and learn to spell fornicate correctly...

[Goz]

The fact that alcoholism and depression are illnesses seems to be a concept that many others on this thread find it hard to grasp... its like saying to someone with Flu 'just stop sneezing!'....

This is going way off the Scott Harrison topic now but Silkov I'm interested, where do you stand on things like rape and murder?

Do you think all rapists and murderers should be locked up? Even if they are found to be mentally ill?

Or if someone raped and killed your mother but was diagnosed as a paranoid psycotic schizo would you want to see them instead receive treatment, be cured and then released back into society?

I'm just interested in peoples thoughts on the subject, not trying to draw you out or anything....

[jamesmcdonnell]

Clinical depression is often caused by chemical imbalances, and there is a strong genetic component to

Whilst one man might be able to cope with a series of unfortunate events and pick himself up, another caves in and cannot cope. The difference is the mindset of the two men and their mental resources, we all have a different set of experiences and we are all genetically different and predisposed towards certain tendencies. Alchoholism is a perfect example, saying that you can just 'sort your life out' is like saying to an Alchoholic 'just stop drinking.' It's not that simple. If you are born with the genes which mean you have an addictive personality disorder, (genes they have already identified) you are much more likely to become and alchoholic and will find it much harder to break those habits than others.

If it is clinical depression then fair enough on Scott. I just feel that from what I hear his problem is that he is living like an 18 year old rather than a fighter in training. He's smacked a fair few people from what I hear and although depression can lead to aggression surely a professional fighter should have the discipline to combat that? He just sounds like a testosterone crazed town-centre loon to me. If he is diagnosed as having a chemical imbalance, and no by this I don't mean a coke problem, then his career is over and his life will probably be very bleak indeed so that is sad. I'm just not getting all misty-eyed and uttering "Tragedy" just yet because I've seen all this at clsoe quarters and Scott seems like any guy with an attitude and no respect for others.

Depression can also be caused by prior terrible experiences but again I ask if there is not a point where you stop looking backwards and crack on with your life? It is sad to see so many 18-21 year-old men able to walk into a GP's (who are overloaded) and claim depression so they don't get hassle about their JSA for 6 months or so.

Inside the ring I admire Scott, he seems a true fighting man, outside the rinf he seems less admirable as far as I can see.

My own recent experiences which I shaln't go into detail, have showed me that under certain circumstances we are all capable of abberant behaviour under duress. Depression and stress can really twist your gourd.

[silkov]

The fact that alcoholism and depression are illnesses seems to be a concept that many others on this thread find it hard to grasp... its like saying to someone with Flu 'just stop sneezing!'....

This is going way off the Scott Harrison topic now but Silkov I'm interested, where do you stand on things like rape and murder?

Do you think all rapists and murderers should be locked up? Even if they are found to be mentally ill?

Or if someone raped and killed your mother but was diagnosed as a paranoid psycotic schizo would you want to see them instead receive treatment, be cured and then released back into society?

I'm just interested in peoples thoughts on the subject, not trying to draw you out or anything....

Well Scott hasn't raped or murdered anyone has he... when people do something like that then obviously they should be locked up... but the truth is that most rapes and murders are committed by people who are not depressed or 'mentally ill'. The question of whether someone should be let off with a lighter sentence for something like murder or rape if they are found to be suffering from a mental illness and can be cured is a big one... in many such cases the person cannot be 'cured' and would probably be a danger to others even if they were kept under medication... and care in the community is often so chaotic that patients are often overlooked and miss medication for various reasons and this can often end in tragedy. When something like a murder or rape has occured then I think that the victim should be put first certainly... but like I've already said most violent crime is committed by people who are not mentally ill and people with mental illness are far more likely to harm themselves than other people.

[weetam]

leave the guy alone also i am no going but will everybody get there money back or what wee tam

[jamesmcdonnell]

Those are two rather extreme examples. Stress can be brought on by any number of factors in someone's life. Who knows what's going on in Scott's head, not me that's for sure.

Stress and mental illness issues are more prevalent in modern western societies than they are in subsistence living, because the more of your time is occupied with dealing with the basics of life, the less time you have to worry, and the less complex matters you have to deal with. Sure, thinking you are going to starve would be stressful, but aside from that, what else is there to worry about.

I'm not making excuses for Scott at all, I don't even know what his problems are, I just think it's always easy to have knee-jerk reactions when not in possession of the facts. Of course it is possible Scott is just a nasty bastard who likes starting on people when he gets drunk, but it's equally possible that he has mental health problems or an alchoholic with violent tendencies when pissed. Who knows which?

[nickd]

leave the guy alone also i am no going but will everybody get there money back or what wee tam

People will be entitled to get refunds on their fight tickets from Sports Network, however as the fight in Belfast a lot of fans will have bought non refundable flights over there. So they'll lose out one way or another.

[silkov]

Sorry guys but you are both ignorant at worst or liberal bleeding hearts wannabe social workers at best. I know you are bound to get some ignorant people on forums but those posts take the Michael.

First off I know a fair bit about depression, never suffered myself as I'm not a half-man, as a childhood friend of mine suffered from "depression" for years before curing himself via suicide. Now there are two kinds of mental illness, chemical imbalances and such that cause schizophrenia and the like and plain and simple wallowing/weakness that causes depression and its precursor stress.

My friend had nothing wrong with him chemically, he just did too much Charlie, LSD and drank too much. He also wasn't man enough to get his relationship on an equal footing and he let his bird and her half-wit kids get him down. His answer was to sit around drinking all day and feeling pity for himself. He then killed himself at the age of 19 when he all he had to do was take his life by the balls. People said it was a tragedy when it was really a farce, he was weak and depressed, people are capable of helping themselves but are too weak to do so and rely on bleeding hearts like yourself to work hard and provide them with the means to wallow in depression whilst living off the state.

If Scott Harrison has, a non-drugs, chemical imbalance then fine, let him be treated but bear in mind his career is over because you probably cannot let a manic depressive box. If he is just a guy who cannot burn the candle at both ends and is getting all wobbly lipped about people looking at him in the local boozer then lets just ignore him or let him dry out at the celeb rehab place.

In the meantime we'll wait and see but I know a girl who is schizophrenic (I know, my crazy mates) and she has never done drugs or drank, yet her brain is so full of conflicting chemicals she will never be well and cannot care for herself. She looks bad, smells bad and is very ill but is shoved into the backs of hospitals in depressing wards and when she gets out sporadically she won't be able to appear in Scottish "Hello" magazine crying about how hellish it has been. Her illness is not in vogue like depression and stress is.

Non-chemical depression is self-treatable, you face it up and take control. Inside us is a compass that tells us right from wrong no matter how badly we are brought up and Scott is in the wrong. He should have overcome his demons with his high achievement marks but instead is prancing about boozers a week before he due to go to work. That is not depression, it is being a bit of a dick and those depressed masses Silkov mentions are doing the same thing and people like you guys let them off with it.

Harrison should be a man and take control of the situation. In a highly feminised world the best way to cure this depression issue is not touchy feely "My father never bought me a pony" sessions but a good dose of pride and masculinity. I'd have thought Scott was above all this nonsense.

You have't a clue what you're talking about mate...

Well I can't quite put my argument together as succintly you just did but I did give it a go. Incidently did you show this much concern when Kerry Katanoia (or whatever she is called) was depressed and checked into the Priory?

You just sound ike an ill-informed hand-wringer.Which is fair enough really as most people are ill-informed on this matter.

What you don't seem to understand is that depression is an illness just the same as schizoprhenia... don't you think the fact that Scott started boozing might indicate that he was depressed already before he started drinking?... many people suffering from depression self medicate with alcohol and drugs... maybe I'm a hand wringer for feeling some sympathy for Scott but I'd prefer to be a hand wringer to being a rather callous know-it-all ready to condemn someone who is actually ill and like it or not depression is an illness and far from being in vogue it is still very much a taboo subject and one of the reasons for this is the sort of reaction of people like yourself...
As for being ill informed I've seen depression and alcohol abuse in many forms over the years and actually do know what I'm talking about, though I'd never be as arrogant to say I know it all as noone does...

[nickd]

I'm with Terence on this one, I live a totally stress free life and its all good.

As for Harrison I dont believe for one minute he's clinically depressed, but nobody really knows the full story. But from the various reports in the news over the last few years I would not say he is much of a depression case, more a town centre lout who has gone too far this time and regrets it.

I don't know the full facts but I seriously doubt there is that much wrong with him, he'll be back soon enough. As soon as he's had a chance to get all the nastiness out of his body again without worrying about a test perhaps.

I wish him a speedy recovery whatever the problems, and lets hope he concentrates on fighting in the ring from here on.

[Coconut]

If I realised I'd been a world boxing champion and had managed to piss it all up the wall whilst having everyone think I was an arsehole, i'd be pretty depressed.

[nickd]

I've never liked horses. Could do with a bit more pussy but then again what single man cant other than that I am 110% all round. ;)