Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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Last hour poll..

Poll ended at 03 Feb 2019, 12:09

Cheeseman - Decision
4
17%
Cheeseman - K/TKO
2
9%
DRAW
2
9%
Garcia - K/TKO
4
17%
Garcia - Decision
11
48%
 
Total votes: 23

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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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Garcia was just all over the place with his left jab, head movement and condition. Of course Cheeseman showed lots of chin and heart but Sergio too showed he could take shots
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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Cheeseman vs Eggington would make for a very tasty omelette :OhYes:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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The talk in the Spanish boxing community today is not about how well Garcia did, but how bad Cheeseman was. They expected him to be far better.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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Coco wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 12:53 The talk in the Spanish boxing community today is not about how well Garcia did, but how bad Cheeseman was. They expected him to be far better.
Sergio was pure class, presented with a brainless target he picked him off beautifully all night.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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Shhhh wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 14:35 Hopefully the cheese will learn this went just as I fort and it’s clear that Ted is gutsy and tough but skillz are always better
I wonder what Ted has been doing today.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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handsofstone wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 12:13 Cheeseman vs Eggington would make for a very tasty omelette :OhYes:
:clap:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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I see a good few predictions came in for a Garcia Pts win

After the fight had finished..............
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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Coco wrote: 04 Feb 2019, 07:15 I see a good few predictions came in for a Garcia Pts win

After the fight had finished..............
Yeh haha.. just before the fight.. it was like 4 Decision wins no ko’s

Cheeseman has 4 dec and 4 ko’s And 2 draws
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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Coco wrote: 04 Feb 2019, 07:15 I see a good few predictions came in for a Garcia Pts win

After the fight had finished..............

I took Garcia to win the fight

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=227279&start=25#p5085373

I did think that if I was wrong, I was going to be really wrong and Cheeseman would have got him out of there in the first 6 but after watching tape I could see the fight going exactly as it went.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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rhino222 wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 09:56 i would suggest, and i have no bias, that cheeseman is/was very lucky to earn decent purses. in terms of his opportunities he has over achieved. he is a decent workhorse, go forward, aggressive...but his defensive skills are poor. a flat track bully is what i guess im saying. ok at a particular level when dishing it out. personally i feel Ant Fowler would eat him alive.......maybe that fight can be made now 'the cheese' has lost his 0.

ted is of similar ilk to adam etches. massive respect to the lads for going in there and doing their best. knocking out roadsweepers etc....but, if you use your face as your best defensive mechanism, you will never reach the top in this tough tough game. yes you can earn dosh, create a following, enjoy the lights......but you will never have a long career if you eat leather.
He could easily have been pulled out the last 2 rounds. He had absolute no chance at that stage. He was getting caught flush constantly and swinging and missing badly.

Listening to sky you’d think Cheeseman won. He sooo tough. Sooo brave. That was a career shortening beating. It was hard to watch.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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ShadrachSimmo wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 03:52
rhino222 wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 09:56 i would suggest, and i have no bias, that cheeseman is/was very lucky to earn decent purses. in terms of his opportunities he has over achieved. he is a decent workhorse, go forward, aggressive...but his defensive skills are poor. a flat track bully is what i guess im saying. ok at a particular level when dishing it out. personally i feel Ant Fowler would eat him alive.......maybe that fight can be made now 'the cheese' has lost his 0.

ted is of similar ilk to adam etches. massive respect to the lads for going in there and doing their best. knocking out roadsweepers etc....but, if you use your face as your best defensive mechanism, you will never reach the top in this tough tough game. yes you can earn dosh, create a following, enjoy the lights......but you will never have a long career if you eat leather.
He could easily have been pulled out the last 2 rounds. He had absolute no chance at that stage. He was getting caught flush constantly and swinging and missing badly.

Listening to sky you’d think Cheeseman won. He sooo tough. Sooo brave. That was a career shortening beating. It was hard to watch.
You could see in his earlier fights that he was just walking forward with limited lateral movement and he didn't exactly crack that hard. No jab to work his way inside, just moving his head and body to try to get inside. You will be made to pay doing that against decent fighters and at world level you will generally be banged out quickly if you're that easy to hit. If Cheeseman was going to be a pressure fighter, he should have studied tapes of Hatton, who was limited but brought intensity, a decent jab, good leaping left hooks and ripping body shots, along with great techniques for creating angles inside to get punches off. And don't forget the holding and spoiling when he needed to.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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Hatton worked the angles and got inside well because he has fast feet and lovely footwork. He even managed to get inside PBF(though tied up when he got there)
I didn't see any of those natural gifts from Cheeseman or the ring intelligence to use them.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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As much as like Cheeseman, there was always the likelihood that he would come unstuck against any skilled boxer with the fitness and durability to keep the work up for 12 rounds.

He is young enough to come again, but he needs to learn a few big lessons from this fight if he is to successfully step up levels.

Still think he beats Fowler though, who has done nothing to warrant the amount of times he gets mentioned buy sky, it was cringeworthy at times.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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keirw wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 04:59 As much as like Cheeseman, there was always the likelihood that he would come unstuck against any skilled boxer with the fitness and durability to keep the work up for 12 rounds.

He is young enough to come again, but he needs to learn a few big lessons from this fight if he is to successfully step up levels.

Still think he beats Fowler though, who has done nothing to warrant the amount of times he gets mentioned buy sky, it was cringeworthy at times.
But Fowlers amateur record is exceptional.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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Coco wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 09:42
keirw wrote: 05 Feb 2019, 04:59 As much as like Cheeseman, there was always the likelihood that he would come unstuck against any skilled boxer with the fitness and durability to keep the work up for 12 rounds.

He is young enough to come again, but he needs to learn a few big lessons from this fight if he is to successfully step up levels.

Still think he beats Fowler though, who has done nothing to warrant the amount of times he gets mentioned buy sky, it was cringeworthy at times.
But Fowlers amateur record is exceptional.
Means nothing, he has beat no one as a pro and talks like he is the next big thing in boxing.

He may well be a good pro, but I would rather have him prove it in the ring than constantly be told how great he is whilst he beats up journeymen.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Ted Cheeseman vs. Sergio Garcia - 2 February 2019

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For me it def means something, most top amateurs at least make it to domestic title level, and also unfortunately is the way boxing works in that for the first couple of years in the pros you fight much lesser fighters to that you are used to in the amateurs.
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