Some question i am bit interested

[jamesmcdonnell]

As I read, Ali had pretended to be a stupid, from time to time. This had been some kind of his game. Davis might be to play the same game ?

I have wondered if Ali flunked his army IQ test on purpose.

Yes, definitely.

Some people are lousy test takers, and Ali, like me, seems a bit ADHD. Takes one to know one. :)

But yes, he likely did take "a dive" on the test.

I have ADHD, and I always excelled at exams.

[SenorPipino]

Those army tests were tricky. It wasn't all that easy to purposely lower your score to avoid qualifying for induction.

If it was, the armed forces would have had fewer than a handful of soldiers.

And much of the test was comprised of evaluating reading and writing skills.

Equating it to a true IQ test is somewhat overblown.

When it came to language skills, there was no question that Ali was very deficient. He graduated near the bottom of his high school class.

Reading and writing were both exceptionally difficult for him.

In modern times it's felt that Ali would have been diagnosed with the learning disorder dyslexia, and would have been immediately disqualified from the selective service.

But as Ali himself once said about the infamous test results: "I never said I was the smartest. Just the greatest."

[keirw]

Think Skogund has made a full recovery, there have been pics of him at Sauerland shows in recent months.

He was actually injured in sparring a few weeks after the Smith fight. He was due to fight Fielding i think.

[Cent0089]

Think Skogund has made a full recovery, there have been pics of him at Sauerland shows in recent months.

He was actually injured in sparring a few weeks after the Smith fight. He was due to fight Fielding i think.

Good to hear that

[greg]

...

But as Ali himself once said about the infamous test results: "I never said I was the smartest. Just the greatest."

..I like that , probably the smartest thing he ever said..

[SenorPipino]

...

But as Ali himself once said about the infamous test results: "I never said I was the smartest. Just the greatest."

..I like that , probably the smartest thing he ever said..

I guess you never paid enough attention.

Ali said one smart thing after another.

[greg]

...

But as Ali himself once said about the infamous test results: "I never said I was the smartest. Just the greatest."

..I like that , probably the smartest thing he ever said..

I guess you never paid enough attention.

Ali said one smart thing after another.

..I guess I didn't ..still remember him as a big mouth..

[jamamb]

...

But as Ali himself once said about the infamous test results: "I never said I was the smartest. Just the greatest."

..I like that , probably the smartest thing he ever said..

I guess you never paid enough attention.

Ali said one smart thing after another.

whats the smartest thing he said

[dagilechia]

Tomasz Adamek was running for europarliament but failed miseraby

[SenorPipino]

...

But as Ali himself once said about the infamous test results: "I never said I was the smartest. Just the greatest."

..I like that , probably the smartest thing he ever said..

I guess you never paid enough attention.

Ali said one smart thing after another.

whats the smartest thing he said

My favorite is "I don't have to be what you want me to be."

What, you missed the 50+ year iconic journey too?

[jamamb]

i seen it bruh, just wondering ur opinion, i like his smartest comment better tbh

[oogiebe]

i seen it bruh, just wondering ur opinion, i like his smartest comment better tbh

What he said in reference to Vietnam was his most brilliant. “Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I’m not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality. If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn’t have to draft me, I’d join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I’ll go to jail, so what? We’ve been in jail for 400 years.”

[ValMar]

i seen it bruh, just wondering ur opinion, i like his smartest comment better tbh

What he said in reference to Vietnam was his most brilliant. “Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I’m not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality. If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn’t have to draft me, I’d join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I’ll go to jail, so what? We’ve been in jail for 400 years.”

Bravo !

[Ruthless-RKO]

- How is Erik Skoglund doing now, speaking of injuries after Smith fight?

Six years after brain injury, Erik Skoglund, 32, wants one last fight

Erik Skoglund almost lost his life in 2017 after a sparring session turned into a serious health situation. After undergoing brain surgery, thankfully, he’s functioning today.

However, the Swedish star has never been able to put out the fire inside of him that wants to be a boxer. Skoglund is a bonafide fighter who was once the most talented in his homeland.

Over half a decade from what could have been his end of days, Skoglund is in the gym, hoping to get back under the lights again.

Erik Skoglund wants one more fight

“Time flies, and I keep working. This dream is too big for me to let go of,” he said regarding the possibility of an exhibition or some sort of body sparring event.

Almost six years to the exact day when Skoglund suffered a brain hemorrhage during a hometown sparring session, he still looks the picture of health.

A lack of boxing action has preserved those good looks. However, the man who only lost once to divisional number one Callum Smith would have taken losing some of his chiseled features in a trade for competing in the ring.

Cornering for his friend and teammate Anthony Yigit gets him by, but it’s not the same for Skoglund. He has the boxing bug that would never have been satisfied with retirement at 26.

Exclusive interview with World Boxing News

In 2018, after some time recovering at home, Skoglund was gracious enough to speak to World Boxing News exclusively. He relived some of what happened that fateful day.

“I’m at the gym right now, having a quick workout. Today is a good day,” he told WBN when obviously having as many bad ones. “I’m trying to work out as much as I can.

“I’m trying to do whatever I can to get back physically and mentally in shape.”

Asked about December 8, 2017, he added: “I don’t remember anything from the day it happened. It’s completely gone. But as I’ve been told, I was in the gym sparring.

“Afterwards, I told my trainer that I felt sick. He said to try again after the weekend. He said, ‘Get some rest, and we’ll see you on Monday.’

“I said you don’t understand. I really don’t feel great. Then I fell on the floor. I started to shake and scream. My trainer, my brother, and my girlfriend were all there. They understood something really bad was happening.

“I went to the local hospital in Nyköping and had an MR scan. They saw it was a bleed inside the brain. It was a shock for everyone.”

Surgeries

That wasn’t the end of the story, as Skoglund continued to explain.

“They put me again in the MR. They saw that there was a leak from the surgery wound, so the blood came in and pushed the brain once again.

“They had to redo the surgery. So, I actually had two surgeries for the same injury. Then, they put something in that could help the blood to leak out, but it doesn’t put pressure on the brain.

“That was pretty much the issue, but after that, they decided that the pressure on my brain could be too much if they tried to wake me up again.

“They decided to let me wake slowly and naturally. They allowed it to take time, which is why I was down for more than a week.

“Of course, it was horrible for my family because they couldn’t tell whether I would wake up or if I was going to move again. They didn’t know if I was even going to talk again.

“It was that kind of a horror for everyone involved.”

Despite all he’s been through, Skoglund continues to feel the adrenaline from being involved in the sport.

And if anyone deserves one more night under the lights with adoring fans cheering his name, it’s Erik Skoglund.

[NazNaci1]

Also the Mexican lad that Frampton defended his title against was murdered in Mexico, Trevor berbick and Corrie Sanders were both also murdered

Not too recent, 2009 and 2012, Hector Camacho and Arturo Gatti.

[tiny_acres]

- How is Erik Skoglund doing now, speaking of injuries after Smith fight?

Six years after brain injury, Erik Skoglund, 32, wants one last fight

Erik Skoglund almost lost his life in 2017 after a sparring session turned into a serious health situation. After undergoing brain surgery, thankfully, he’s functioning today.

However, the Swedish star has never been able to put out the fire inside of him that wants to be a boxer. Skoglund is a bonafide fighter who was once the most talented in his homeland.

Over half a decade from what could have been his end of days, Skoglund is in the gym, hoping to get back under the lights again.

Erik Skoglund wants one more fight

“Time flies, and I keep working. This dream is too big for me to let go of,” he said regarding the possibility of an exhibition or some sort of body sparring event.

Almost six years to the exact day when Skoglund suffered a brain hemorrhage during a hometown sparring session, he still looks the picture of health.

A lack of boxing action has preserved those good looks. However, the man who only lost once to divisional number one Callum Smith would have taken losing some of his chiseled features in a trade for competing in the ring.

Cornering for his friend and teammate Anthony Yigit gets him by, but it’s not the same for Skoglund. He has the boxing bug that would never have been satisfied with retirement at 26.

Exclusive interview with World Boxing News

In 2018, after some time recovering at home, Skoglund was gracious enough to speak to World Boxing News exclusively. He relived some of what happened that fateful day.

“I’m at the gym right now, having a quick workout. Today is a good day,” he told WBN when obviously having as many bad ones. “I’m trying to work out as much as I can.

“I’m trying to do whatever I can to get back physically and mentally in shape.”

Asked about December 8, 2017, he added: “I don’t remember anything from the day it happened. It’s completely gone. But as I’ve been told, I was in the gym sparring.

“Afterwards, I told my trainer that I felt sick. He said to try again after the weekend. He said, ‘Get some rest, and we’ll see you on Monday.’

“I said you don’t understand. I really don’t feel great. Then I fell on the floor. I started to shake and scream. My trainer, my brother, and my girlfriend were all there. They understood something really bad was happening.

“I went to the local hospital in Nyköping and had an MR scan. They saw it was a bleed inside the brain. It was a shock for everyone.”

Surgeries

That wasn’t the end of the story, as Skoglund continued to explain.

“They put me again in the MR. They saw that there was a leak from the surgery wound, so the blood came in and pushed the brain once again.

“They had to redo the surgery. So, I actually had two surgeries for the same injury. Then, they put something in that could help the blood to leak out, but it doesn’t put pressure on the brain.

“That was pretty much the issue, but after that, they decided that the pressure on my brain could be too much if they tried to wake me up again.

“They decided to let me wake slowly and naturally. They allowed it to take time, which is why I was down for more than a week.

“Of course, it was horrible for my family because they couldn’t tell whether I would wake up or if I was going to move again. They didn’t know if I was even going to talk again.

“It was that kind of a horror for everyone involved.”

Despite all he’s been through, Skoglund continues to feel the adrenaline from being involved in the sport.

And if anyone deserves one more night under the lights with adoring fans cheering his name, it’s Erik Skoglund.

No commission should license him. He was in a coma for 10 days, massive brain trauma, brain bleeds.
No one should want him to fight again. I wish him well. Maybe as a trainer but not as a fighter.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Hopkins went to jail for strong arm robbery

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Ali was a terrible HS student and did poorly on IQ tests. He had a quote "i said I was the greatest, not the smartest" However he was clearly a master of psychology

[Cyclops]

- What happened to Golovkins two brothers killed in army ? Don't know.
- What was the felony Hopkins went to prison for? Robbery.
- Is Gervonta Davis mentaly retarded? He is from Baltimore.
- How is Erik Skoglund doing now, speaking of injuries after Smith fight? Dunno.
- is there any top fighters in last decade who was fixing fights? (i mean intentionaly lost)Paul Briggs against Danny Green, Malik Scott against Deontay Wilder. Taurus Sykes against Povetkin.
- is there some notable boxers who were killed outside of ring last decade? Cory Sanders, who KO'd Wladamir Klitschko, was murdered. Other posters have mentioned some notable examples.
- which boxers are most politicaly active besides Manny Pacquiao? Nikolai Valuev was in the Russian parliament and I think was mayor of somewhere? Putin supposedly sent him off to fight in the Ukraine where I'm sure as such a small and agile target he'll be quite the addition to front line forces.
- which notable boxers have full time job? The lad that retired Hopkins, Joe Smith, I thought was working construction at the time that he pulled that one off. There was a UK fighter, Rendell Munroe, who was a binman. I often wondered how that worked, as he was tiny and binmen are generally lumps.
- is there some boxer who is deaf or speechless ? I don't think you could be deaf and box to a high level, could you? How would you hear the bell at the end of the round? How would you hear the instructions shouted from the corner? How would you hear 'break'. I don't think a deaf fighter would be sanctioned.

[TheWigwam]

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Fred_(Dummy)_Mahan

Deaf-mute boxer who died skydiving in an attempt to fix his disability - wow!

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Mario_D%27Agata

Deaf world champion!

[margaret thatcher]

most things that are said to boxers can be motioned too. and a good ref should be there and can put a hand up as soon as the bell rings. it would add anotheer layer of difficulty, but certainly a deaf person should be able to box if that's their only disability

there was a deaf ufc fighter too, matt hamil

[margaret thatcher]

also was 'deaf pride' dallas vargas

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/74955

[Cyclops]

also was 'deaf pride' dallas vargas

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/74955

Clearly I am an ableist bigot and should be cancelled

[margaret thatcher]

also was 'deaf pride' dallas vargas

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/74955

Clearly I am an ableist bigot and should be cancelled

ive already reported you for hate speech

[TheWigwam]

https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Eugene_Hairston

Stumbled upon another deaf boxer