Anthony Joshua vs. Jarrell Miller - June 1, 2019

[Ilya Muromets]

wach wouldve never beaten miller

How do they say, that's what makes horse race betting, one guy thinks one thing the other guy thinks something else.

[jamamb]

wach has nothing for miller other then a great chin to absorb the punishment, no way he was going to win that. miller often gives away the first round btw.

[Ilya Muromets]

Think Joshua will win but you never know, I’ve said for ages he’s an accident waiting to happen, crap feet, stands square on and leaves his chin out, don’t think Miller can exploit his weaknesses but someone will sooner or later

I agree with the first part, and maybe u r right about the second. My Vityaz man Sasha was beating up on Joshua before he ran out of steam.

[Ilya Muromets]

wach has nothing for miller other then a great chin to absorb the punishment, no way he was going to win that. miller often gives away the first round btw.

I thought that Miller standing there right in front of Wach was wide open for Wach's powerful right, had he been able to throw it.

If he stands in front of Joshua like that he'll get slaughtered. I'm looking for him to bull in on him like he did to Adamek.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Anthony Joshua’s World Heavyweight title clash with Jarrell Miller at Madison Square Garden is already the hottest ticket in New York after becoming the highest grossing pre-sale for a boxing event at the famous arena.

Joshua defends his WBA Super, IBF, WBO and IBO crowns against Miller on June 1 in the Big Apple, live on DAZN in the US and on Sky Sports Box Office in the UK – and fight fans showed their appetite to see the Briton make his American debut in the backyard of the unbeaten Brooklynite, breaking the highest grossing pre-sale in MSG boxing history inside two hours of the midday on-sale.

Tickets go on general sale at midday on Tuesday February 19 following Monday’s pre-sale for Matchroom Fight Pass members, and fans hoping to snap up the chance to see the World’s premier Heavyweight lock horns with the dangerous ‘Big Baby’ should move fast on Tuesday to avoid missing out on this blockbuster night.

“We know that AJ is a huge box office hit in the UK but to break the pre-sale record at the iconic Madison Square Garden is astounding,” said promoter Eddie Hearn. “We are building a huge event on June 1 and we look forward to the all the build-up beginning with next Tuesdays press conference in New York.”

“We are thrilled with the early excitement for tickets,” said Joel Fisher, executive vice president, MSG Marquee Events. “Anthony Joshua versus Jarrell Miller will be an epic event at Madison Square Garden and we encourage fans to purchase tickets now because this fight will sell out.”

[Ruthless-RKO]

Hearn posted this.. trying to get fans back on side

[Rob3_142]

Hearn posted this.. trying to get fans back on side

There is a world of difference. But I guess taking in consideration Joshua's age they were keen to fast track.

[jamamb]

aj and wilder turned pro at the same age, 23 leaves lots of time for hws

fury of course was only 20

[oogiebe]

aj and wilder turned pro at the same age, 23 leaves lots of time for hws

fury of course was only 20

The Hearn post is meaningless.

[Rob3_142]

aj and wilder turned pro at the same age, 23 leaves lots of time for hws

fury of course was only 20

The Hearn post is meaningless.

It's not meaningless. It's an illustration of how they've progressed their careers. Maybe Wilder/Joshua is a better comparison as they were both Olympians and turned pro at the same age. Fury would have probably had a better CV had he not gone AWOL for a couple years.

[oogiebe]

aj and wilder turned pro at the same age, 23 leaves lots of time for hws

fury of course was only 20

The Hearn post is meaningless.

It's not meaningless. It's an illustration of how they've progressed their careers. Maybe Wilder/Joshua is a better comparison as they were both Olympians and turned pro at the same age. Fury would have probably had a better CV had he not gone AWOL for a couple years.

Joshua had a good amateur experience and Wilder didn't Wilder took up boxing later than AJ. That made each of their development paths different. AJ's was aggressive and Wilder's was not. Tell me an important takeaway from Eddie's post. What does it prove? What does it tell us about each fighter? Don't get me wrong, AJ has the best resume of the three, and that is important in evaluating the fighters.

[jamamb]

says hes accomplished far more in the same amount of fights, he also did in the same amount of time. its a good reminder of how ambitiously hes been moved.

btw aj and wilder had very similar am experience, both around 35 fights and late starts, both were at the olympics and various international competetions, aj did better though, true

[oogiebe]

says hes accomplished far more in the same amount of fights, he also did in the same amount of time. its a good reminder of how ambitiously hes been moved.

btw aj and wilder had very similar am experience, both around 35 fights and late starts, both were at the olympics and various international competetions, aj did better though, true

AJ was far more advanced at 23 than was Wilder, and he's more advanced still. Hearn's post is window dressing.

[jamamb]

well ya, hes just a better fighter and i doubt at 34 this year wilders getting much better , ajs also been moved much faster and built a stronger resume

[oogiebe]

well ya, hes just a better fighter, hes also been moved much faster and built a stronger resume

Agreed. My comments are on Hearn's post, not AJ's accomplishments.

[jamamb]

i thinks its a fair post, ppl really seem to forget how much tougher ajs been matched . there is a lot of stuff and criticism about his matchmaking these days but hed barely have crept onto the world scene if hed been matched like pretty much any other hw

and like, ppl have told me miller and pulev in 2019 wudbe an awful year, but how many other hws have a better pair of wins in the same year? barely any. i think ajs getting a lot of unfair criticsm on the opposition end

[Rob3_142]

aj and wilder turned pro at the same age, 23 leaves lots of time for hws

fury of course was only 20

The Hearn post is meaningless.

It's not meaningless. It's an illustration of how they've progressed their careers. Maybe Wilder/Joshua is a better comparison as they were both Olympians and turned pro at the same age. Fury would have probably had a better CV had he not gone AWOL for a couple years.

Joshua had a good amateur experience and Wilder didn't Wilder took up boxing later than AJ. That made each of their development paths different. AJ's was aggressive and Wilder's was not. Tell me an important takeaway from Eddie's post. What does it prove? What does it tell us about each fighter? Don't get me wrong, AJ has the best resume of the three, and that is important in evaluating the fighters.

AJs amateur career was not that significant. What was it? One world championships, one Europeans, an Olympics and straight into the pro ranks?

It certainly highlights the difference in ambition between Joshua and Wilder. He had loads of time to unify the division before AJ was even in the running, yet he never showed any ambition to do so.

A little harder to compare Fury's career as he started earlier (so was inherently going to be slower progress) plus the time out of the game.

I think the purpose of the post is to articulate that Joshua's ultimate goal has always been to chase the best fights available to him, when the other two in question have taken a more conservative approach. That being said, Fury is probably on par for high risk (Klitschko and Wilder at the time of his career).

[oogiebe]

i thinks its a fair post, ppl really seem to forget how much tougher ajs been matched . there is a lot of stuff and criticism about his matchmaking these days but hed barely have crept onto the world scene if hed been matched like pretty much any other hw

and like, ppl have told me miller and pulev in 2019 wudbe an awful year, but how many other hws have a better pair of wins in the same year? barely any. i think ajs getting a lot of unfair criticsm on the opposition end

It's clear, (without Hearn's post), that AJ is the most accomplished and best resumed HW in the world. Geez...just look at the records. The BS with folks criticizing AJ for his Miller matchup don't seem to understand the dynamics that Matchroom had to navigate to get AJ to fight he BEST AVAILABLE contender. Everyone would prefer Wilder or Fury, but as we have discussed ad nauseum, they are fighting each other. I agree with you and your posts, that there is far too much 'noise' on AJ from the masses. BTW, Miller and Pulev would be two top 10 contenders he would have faced if it happens. Every other viable top 10 is taken or has been smashed up already by Joshua. AND...the year's only just begun.

[Best Coast]

Hearn posted this.. trying to get fans back on side

Great observation. Would you agree that AJ may not have come here to the US so soon if Fury hadnt put the pressure on him by coming here to face Wilder? I realize Hearn/AJ had talked about fighting Miller in April 2019 at MSG about a year ago., but after the Povetkin fight they suddenly switched the focus to Wembley Stadium in April.

[Rob3_142]

Hearn posted this.. trying to get fans back on side

Great observation. Would you agree that AJ may not have come here to the US so soon if Fury hadnt put the pressure on him by coming here to face Wilder? I realize Hearn/AJ had talked about fighting Miller in April 2019 at MSG about a year ago., but after the Povetkin fight they suddenly switched the focus to Wembley Stadium in April.

Nah I don't think so.

The plan was ways to hit the US at some point, it was about timing. Now was the right time as the options for the next opponent were limited. They always wanted to unify first but that just wasn't an option at the time.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Eolaithe]

AJ always planned to fight in America, but Eddie Hearn would never allow him to become the B-side and compete on an event covered by a rival broadcaster, since he’s a DAZN/Matchroom fighter, which is what would have happened if he accepted Wilder’s non-negotiable terms.

[ewenhay]

Hearn posted this.. trying to get fans back on side

Great observation. Would you agree that AJ may not have come here to the US so soon if Fury hadnt put the pressure on him by coming here to face Wilder? I realize Hearn/AJ had talked about fighting Miller in April 2019 at MSG about a year ago., but after the Povetkin fight they suddenly switched the focus to Wembley Stadium in April.

If they had wanted to hit the states this year they wouldn't have booked out Wembley twice for 2019.

[boxing_rocks]

Fury said that he floored Miller 6 or 7 times during their sparring in 2011 and sent him back home early.

[joshj909]

Fury said that he floored Miller 6 or 7 times during their sparring in 2011 and sent him back home early.

There was something about Miller not being able to take body-shots if i recall correctly.