?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

ewenhay
Middleweight
Posts: 2902
Joined: 12 Oct 2013, 16:28

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by ewenhay »

rd350lc wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 18:33
ewenhay wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 18:15 Povetkin was always over rated.

And he's more or less shot now at 39.

Arguably Joshua's best win though funnily enough.
In the manner he won , or the opponent ?
Klitschko got to be better surely ?
Yeah probably Klitschko but he hadn't fought for 2 years prior
Rob3_142
Welterweight
Posts: 2791
Joined: 26 Jun 2015, 06:03

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by Rob3_142 »

Ballsy opening fight.

Yeah he's 39, and one of the smaller HWs in the top 20, but do not underestimate Povetkin. He is still a genuine HW contender who troubled Joshua in the opening rounds of his last fight.

If Usky is at his sharpest, and moves well, then I certainly expect Povetkin to tire second half, where Usyk can cruise to a wide points victory. If I was Povetkin, I'd go high volume early and try get Usyk out of there.
bigman1968
Super Welterweight
Posts: 672
Joined: 24 Jul 2014, 03:45

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by bigman1968 »

Onetimeonly wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 11:44
bigman1968 wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 04:13 Good choice for both. Rianinsky is looking to earn back some money he wasted on Povetkin. Povetkin also have problems in his business initiatives. And all other HW that can nring money are already taken.

For Usyk it’s good to start with the smallest HW with top rank and on decline for years now.
Riabansky cut his losses with roidboy. He's with hearn now.
Povetkin left to Hearn? Link???
brilo33
Middleweight
Posts: 7865
Joined: 07 Mar 2014, 16:05

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by brilo33 »

great yard stick to see where he is at, jummping straight in the deep end , a real fighter usyk , usyk i think will ko povetkin in the first 4rds . think it will be an open fight and quick , russia v ukraine will add fuel to it aswell
SAPFO
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 2730
Joined: 06 May 2010, 16:48

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by SAPFO »

ewenhay wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 18:15
Arguably Joshua's best win though funnily enough.
Bloody hell it's on Feb and you've won the silly comments of the year award already
Onetimeonly
Super Featherweight
Posts: 11584
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 06:28

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by Onetimeonly »

bigman1968 wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 08:29
Onetimeonly wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 11:44
bigman1968 wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 04:13 Good choice for both. Rianinsky is looking to earn back some money he wasted on Povetkin. Povetkin also have problems in his business initiatives. And all other HW that can nring money are already taken.

For Usyk it’s good to start with the smallest HW with top rank and on decline for years now.
Riabansky cut his losses with roidboy. He's with hearn now.
Povetkin left to Hearn? Link???
Ryabinsky dumped him awhile ago. I'm sure your Google will pull it up.
bigman1968
Super Welterweight
Posts: 672
Joined: 24 Jul 2014, 03:45

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by bigman1968 »

Onetimeonly wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 12:58
bigman1968 wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 08:29
Onetimeonly wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 11:44
bigman1968 wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 04:13 Good choice for both. Rianinsky is looking to earn back some money he wasted on Povetkin. Povetkin also have problems in his business initiatives. And all other HW that can nring money are already taken.

For Usyk it’s good to start with the smallest HW with top rank and on decline for years now.
Riabansky cut his losses with roidboy. He's with hearn now.
Povetkin left to Hearn? Link???
Ryabinsky dumped him awhile ago. I'm sure your Google will pull it up.
I just checked at Riabinsky’s boxing company site.
Povetkin still listed as World of Boxing boxer, togever with Lebedev, Bivol etc....
And on Russian boxing news site wrote a thing of Povetkin changing owner.
Onetimeonly
Super Featherweight
Posts: 11584
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 06:28

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by Onetimeonly »

bigman1968 wrote: 18 Feb 2019, 08:41
Onetimeonly wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 12:58
bigman1968 wrote: 17 Feb 2019, 08:29
Onetimeonly wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 11:44
bigman1968 wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 04:13 Good choice for both. Rianinsky is looking to earn back some money he wasted on Povetkin. Povetkin also have problems in his business initiatives. And all other HW that can nring money are already taken.

For Usyk it’s good to start with the smallest HW with top rank and on decline for years now.
Riabansky cut his losses with roidboy. He's with hearn now.
Povetkin left to Hearn? Link???
Ryabinsky dumped him awhile ago. I'm sure your Google will pull it up.
I just checked at Riabinsky’s boxing company site.
Povetkin still listed as World of Boxing boxer, togever with Lebedev, Bivol etc....
And on Russian boxing news site wrote a thing of Povetkin changing owner.
I guess I must have just read it on here. My bad
danconnollyeire
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 3576
Joined: 24 May 2012, 10:31

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by danconnollyeire »

Loki wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 13:25 Really risky from Usyk. He might regret it if he takes it. He hasn’t fought anyone who can bang like Povetkin.
Joyce probably hits harder than the current Povetkin
danconnollyeire
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 3576
Joined: 24 May 2012, 10:31

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by danconnollyeire »

jamamb wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 18:22 funny enough hes actually younger then ortiz
George Foreman is younger than Ortiz
danconnollyeire
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 3576
Joined: 24 May 2012, 10:31

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by danconnollyeire »

Onetimeonly wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 13:52 Povetkin was never anywhere near as good as usyk. Alexander was at his best the same time of his career as usyk is now. He's been lazy ever since. The worst thing he ever did was bring Atlas into his life. Teddy kills careers.
Eh? he never lost a single fight under Atlas. Only has 2 loses, both against fighters he wouldn't beat regardless of trainer and neither when Atlas was in his corner
Onetimeonly
Super Featherweight
Posts: 11584
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 06:28

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by Onetimeonly »

danconnollyeire wrote: 18 Feb 2019, 08:58
Onetimeonly wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 13:52 Povetkin was never anywhere near as good as usyk. Alexander was at his best the same time of his career as usyk is now. He's been lazy ever since. The worst thing he ever did was bring Atlas into his life. Teddy kills careers.
Eh? he never lost a single fight under Atlas. Only has 2 loses, both against fighters he wouldn't beat regardless of trainer and neither when Atlas was in his corner
He's been a top fighter regardless. Atlas made him duck wlad and waste time. Wasn't teddy with him when he got a dubious decision against huck? Either way my point remains, the best povetkin I ever saw was against Byrd and chambers and he still wasn't as good as usyk.
bigman1968
Super Welterweight
Posts: 672
Joined: 24 Jul 2014, 03:45

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by bigman1968 »

Onetimeonly wrote: 18 Feb 2019, 09:09
danconnollyeire wrote: 18 Feb 2019, 08:58
Onetimeonly wrote: 16 Feb 2019, 13:52 Povetkin was never anywhere near as good as usyk. Alexander was at his best the same time of his career as usyk is now. He's been lazy ever since. The worst thing he ever did was bring Atlas into his life. Teddy kills careers.
Eh? he never lost a single fight under Atlas. Only has 2 loses, both against fighters he wouldn't beat regardless of trainer and neither when Atlas was in his corner
Was Atlas his manager? Trainers takes such a decisions??
I guess his managers knew his chances vs top Klitchko and figured they can make more money when he still had zero losses.


He's been a top fighter regardless. Atlas made him duck wlad and waste time. Wasn't teddy with him when he got a dubious decision against huck? Either way my point remains, the best povetkin I ever saw was against Byrd and chambers and he still wasn't as good as usyk.
Onetimeonly
Super Featherweight
Posts: 11584
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 06:28

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by Onetimeonly »

Atlas is such an egomaniac he wouldn't take a position without some stroke. He was very outspoken about needing time for wlad. He's a pile of dung.
greg
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 5313
Joined: 23 Mar 2007, 07:44

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by greg »

..Ryabinsky was recently saying that Usyk vs Povetkin fight has not been finally decided upon as yet. According to him there are other options with Usyk vs Povetkin being one of them..
bigman1968
Super Welterweight
Posts: 672
Joined: 24 Jul 2014, 03:45

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by bigman1968 »

greg wrote: 18 Feb 2019, 10:49 ..Ryabinsky was recently saying that Usyk vs Povetkin fight has not been finally decided upon as yet. According to him there are other options with Usyk vs Povetkin being one of them..
Just read what Riabinski said. Looks like he think that Povetkin should recover from surgery, and that’s will no let this fight happen. Looks like next Povetkin fight will be “recovery test fight”= some tomato can will be beaten by Povetkin in Kazan or Yelaterinburg-)
joshj909
Lightweight
Posts: 5902
Joined: 01 Dec 2017, 06:16

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by joshj909 »

We shouldve know it was too good to be true...
SenorPipino
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6055
Joined: 09 Jan 2013, 19:40

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by SenorPipino »

joshj909 wrote: 18 Feb 2019, 15:06
We shouldve know it was too good to be true...

It would make sense.

A big heavyweight who approximates in height (if not the talent) guys such as Fury, Wilder and Joshua.

It gets Usyk accustomed to the size, and quickly erases the doubts of skeptical fans who insist he is too small for the monsters of the division.
jamamb
Lightweight
Posts: 14329
Joined: 17 Sep 2017, 05:37

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by jamamb »

there just saying hekenius is another name, goodbusiness to have several in talks
ewenhay
Middleweight
Posts: 2902
Joined: 12 Oct 2013, 16:28

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by ewenhay »

Seems to be a pattern with Matchroom these days unfortunately.

Tease some big names first then announce someone ranked way lower blaming the better fighters for wanting too much money when they reject a low ball offer.
jamamb
Lightweight
Posts: 14329
Joined: 17 Sep 2017, 05:37

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by jamamb »

ewenhay wrote: 18 Feb 2019, 16:46 Seems to be a pattern with Matchroom these days unfortunately.

Tease some big names first then announce someone ranked way lower blaming the better fighters for wanting too much money when they reject a low ball offer.
lol, but even that big name to you was just old, shot, and overrated :lol:

so you spin that negatively , but then do the same to the suggestion that it might not be that opponent :lol:
Last edited by jamamb on 18 Feb 2019, 17:12, edited 1 time in total.
Best Coast
Welterweight
Posts: 3133
Joined: 07 Mar 2016, 22:53

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by Best Coast »

That would be a good HW debut for Usyk. Given the recent signing of Fury with ESPN and likely postponement of Wilder-Fury II an, Usyk-Povetkin could be the most significant HW matchup in the near future!!
Eolaithe
Super Featherweight
Posts: 141
Joined: 15 Feb 2019, 06:47

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by Eolaithe »

Robert Helenius would be a massive step back in calibre for Oleksandr Usyk – it would be a meaningless win over a fighter that hasn’t achieved a damn thing.
SenorPipino
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6055
Joined: 09 Jan 2013, 19:40

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by SenorPipino »

Eolaithe wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 03:31 Robert Helenius would be a massive step back in calibre for Oleksandr Usyk – it would be a meaningless win over a fighter that hasn’t achieved a damn thing.
Introduction to the heavyweight division. Against a massive opponent.

That's all that's necessary to justify it.
Onetimeonly
Super Featherweight
Posts: 11584
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 06:28

Re: ?? Usyk vs Povetkin May 18 ??

Post by Onetimeonly »

SenorPipino wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 10:00
Eolaithe wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 03:31 Robert Helenius would be a massive step back in calibre for Oleksandr Usyk – it would be a meaningless win over a fighter that hasn’t achieved a damn thing.
Introduction to the heavyweight division. Against a massive opponent.

That's all that's necessary to justify it.
I can't think of the last guy usyk fought that wouldn't be a sound favorite over helenius.
Post Reply