Holyfield: Wilder is The Best at Heavyweight, Not Joshua

[oogiebe]

Former two division undisputed champion Evander Holyfield backs WBC world champion Deontay Wilder as the best heavyweight in the world.

While he views IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO champion Anthony Joshua as being the most skilled fighter in the division - he can't back him to be the best of the division.

Holyfield also believes that Wilder's fight in December with Tyson Fury should have been stopped in the twelfth round, because Fury was dropped hard and laid motionless for several seconds.


Who knows? Maybe? He will always have a puncher's chance.

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[punchoutsb]

Holyfield also believes that Wilder's fight in December with Tyson Fury should have been stopped in the twelfth round, because Fury was dropped hard and laid motionless for several seconds.

[oogiebe]

Holyfield also believes that Wilder's fight in December with Tyson Fury should have been stopped in the twelfth round, because Fury was dropped hard and laid motionless for several seconds.

I seriously cannot understand how Evander could say that in light of what transpired after Fury got up.

[punchoutsb]

Holyfield also believes that Wilder's fight in December with Tyson Fury should have been stopped in the twelfth round, because Fury was dropped hard and laid motionless for several seconds.

I seriously cannot understand how Evander could say that in light of what transpired after Fury got up.

I really like 'vander, but I don't there are a lot of brain cells left at that party.

[jamamb]

lol ppl stll going on that shouldve been stopped? they sound more disappointed about that then anythng

[jamamb]

we just need tiny here now assurng us that 99 percent of refs wouldve stopped it

[oogiebe]

lol ppl stll going on that shouldve been stopped? they sound more disappointed about that then anythng

People hold onto what makes them feel better, I guess.

[tiny_acres]

we just need tiny here now assurng us that 99 percent of refs wouldve stopped it

I still stand by that statement.
I also stand by the statement I ALSO made that I'm glad the ref didn't.

[jamamb]

tbh its gotten overblown...ppl now descrbe it as though fury had his eyes closed (reported regularly yet they clearly were open) and was twitchng and foaming . its part of the comebac story that has become mythiczed a bit

actually watch....eyes were open and hes watchng the ref and seems as though hes waiting count out. good to let it contnue and i very much doubt 99 out of 100 stop that. in the fnal round of a major fght. we see refs let thngs go often. fury was in trouble but no way was he as clearly bad as many act

gotta say...to me just seems more as though its a bit of dsappontment and sour grapes from ppl who wouldve preferred a wlder stopage. let it go.

[jamamb]

as for deontay beng the best....i see aj as the best and had fury beating deontay

but wth that power...on any nght hes a major threat to beat anyone . its possble he could lose a decson to fury but then go splat aj etc

[tiny_acres]

as for deontay beng the best....i see aj as the best and had fury beating deontay

but wth that power...on any nght hes a major threat to beat anyone . its possble he could lose a decson to fury but then go splat aj etc

It's what most have been saying. And makes perfect sense.
Boxing skills Wilder is dead last out of the 3. No one could argue that.
But One punch power he has the advantage.
I just want to see all 3 fight each other multiple times but I know that will never happen

[morm]

Holyfield is a better friend with Wilder ....
AJ is a much better bokser as Wilder for me

[candyslim]

It's far from inconceivable that Wilder could explode one of those right hand bombs on Joshua's chin and it's game over.

Having said that by any measure, whether it be eye-test, achievement in the ring, quality of opposition, any yardstick you care to choose, then anyone looking objectively would have to rate Joshua over Wilder at this time.

Evander is backing his compatriot and his friend (maybe?). He is not being objective but that's forgivable. Lennox Lewis on the other hand is so embittered and consumed by jealousy that he embarrasses himself every time he opens his mouth about Joshua. Does he think UK fight fans think more highly of him (Lewis) for taking every opportunity to rubbish Joshua? If he does he's delusional.

[Eolaithe]

Lennox Lewis on the other hand is so embittered and consumed by jealousy that he embarrasses himself every time he opens his mouth about Joshua. Does he think UK fight fans think more highly of him (Lewis) for taking every opportunity to rubbish Joshua? If he does he's delusional.

Lennox Lewis works for Fox and commentates on PBC events. AJ is a DAZN fighter. DAZN is a rival to the PBC's broadcasters (Showtime/Fox).

[candyslim]

Sure but do you not think his reasons are a little closer to home?

[oogiebe]

Sure but do you not think his reasons are a little closer to home?

To me it does. His comments go far and above an objective journalist. Seems too emotional at times.

[candyslim]

The simple truth is that he has been replaced in the UK public affection by someone who has possibly already surpassed him in career earnings, despite having another decade in the game, by the end of which he may well have surpassed his achievements too.

[oogiebe]

The simple truth is that he has been replaced in the UK public affection by someone who has possibly already surpassed him in career earnings, despite having another decade in the game, by the end of which he may well have surpassed his achievements too.

AJ is performing in the era of technology which gave him a million times more exposure than Lewis ever had a chance at. Lewis should really just accept that and move on and handle himself with a bit more maturity and dignity.

[candyslim]

Exactly. I always admired and respected Lewis but he isn't endearing himself to his fans lately.

[Eolaithe]

Sure but do you not think his reasons are a little closer to home?

No, because someone not perceived as being British is never going to be as popular on UK soil as another successful individual that is actually British. Lewis has had thirty years to cope with this simple fact.

Lewis competed for Canada as an amateur. For most of his adult life he's lived in the US and Jamaica. Nearly all of his fights for the final dozen years or so of his career were competed outside the UK. Lennox doesn't even have a British accent. I'm actually surprised that he considers himself as being a Brit. He won't be jealous of AJ's popularity.

[jamamb]

The simple truth is that he has been replaced in the UK public affection by someone who has possibly already surpassed him in career earnings, despite having another decade in the game, by the end of which he may well have surpassed his achievements too.

AJ is performing in the era of technology which gave him a million times more exposure than Lewis ever had a chance at. Lewis should really just accept that and move on and handle himself with a bit more maturity and dignity.

there are more platforms, but that also means ppl have more options not to watch. back in 'the day' fewer channells etc and boxing on free tv meant big ass audiences

i think for ppl already drawn in there are a lot more options in terms of coverage and different things to watch though

[Onetimeonly]

Yeah, that Holmes/shavers 46 million viewers tells the tale.

[gilgamesh]

I figure Holyfield just prefers the idea of the Best Heavyweight being an American instead of a Brit. I could see either winning between Wilder and Joshua at the moment. Hopefully we get that fight while they're still unbeaten.

[Duran1970]

I figure Holyfield just prefers the idea of the Best Heavyweight being an American instead of a Brit. I could see either winning between Wilder and Joshua at the moment. Hopefully we get that fight while they're still unbeaten.

X2

[candyslim]

Sure but do you not think his reasons are a little closer to home?

No, because someone not perceived as being British is never going to be as popular on UK soil as another successful individual that is actually British. Lewis has had thirty years to cope with this simple fact.

Lewis competed for Canada as an amateur. For most of his adult life he's lived in the US and Jamaica. Nearly all of his fights for the final dozen years or so of his career were competed outside the UK. Lennox doesn't even have a British accent. I'm actually surprised that he considers himself as being a Brit. He won't be jealous of AJ's popularity.

Well something is eating him and it seems personal to me.

I'll never forget first hearing of him as a very young and promising amateur. No internet back then and info was scarce. I knew not whether he was tall or short, black or white, boxer or puncher. The only thing i knew for sure was that he was Canadian