lazboy wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 18:53
Danny green vs krys woldarksi (guy was in the super six last year)
Green was up on cards, out jabbing him (but tiring) and bang, lights out rd 11.
Also...agaisnt popular opinion. I don’t think toney Nunn fits the bill. Nun was hardly dominating, it was competitive until the end, I rewatched this fight recently.
lazboy wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 18:53
Danny green vs krys woldarksi (guy was in the super six last year)
Green was up on cards, out jabbing him (but tiring) and bang, lights out rd 11.
Also...agaisnt popular opinion. I don’t think toney Nunn fits the bill. Nun was hardly dominating, it was competitive until the end, I rewatched this fight recently.
lazboy wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 18:53Also...agaisnt popular opinion. I don’t think toney Nunn fits the bill. Nun was hardly dominating, it was competitive until the end, I rewatched this fight recently.
a widely misremembered/misinterpreted fight
Michael Nunn was winning the fight by margins of 97-93, 99-91 and 98-92 on all three judges scorecards. James Toney would have lost the fight without scoring the 11th round KO. The majority of boxing observers believed that 'Lights Out' was losing (admittedly a competitive) fight. Even the TV commentators stated that Toney needed a knockdown (immediately before the knockout punch landed).
Was the Nunn-Toney fight totally one-sided? Absolutely not, but ‘Lights Out’ definitely needed the KO to avoid defeat.
It's hard to reward cheating. Corralles turnaround, while still impressive, was in a fight he list if not for incompetence at best and absolute corruption at worst.
Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:17Based on what the ring doctor and the referee stated, Littles only needed to survive one more round to win that fight, because Toney was being stopped otherwise if he didn't KO his opponent in the fourth round.
The scorecards are irrelevant when a fighter is only three minutes away from an inevitable loss, don't you agree?
Littles was not handily beating Toney. Your perception that being down on the cards and being badly hurt in the third round somehow equates to Littles handily beating Toney is irrelevant. Stick to the topic, bot.
When Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. entered the 12th round of his first fight against Meldrick Taylor, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
When Audley Harrison entered the 12th round of his rematch fight against Michael Sprott, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
When James Toney entered the 4th round of his fight against Tim Littles, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
In all three contests I listed, the fighters that got stopped simply needed to survive three minutes in order to secure their victories, but they failed to do so, because their opponents managed to “turn the fight on his head.”
I never mentioned Toney being down on the scorecards, but Littles was almost certainly seconds away from gaining victory. Challenge my actual words - don't make things up!
You didn't mention Toney being down on the cards because he wasn't, which is why the fight doesn't fit. If you weren't such a gigantic douchebag I wouldn't be calling you on this. But since you felt the need to post:
Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:38
As a getle reminder, here's what the topic of this thread is really about:
Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42Boxing turnarounds!
So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.
I figured you needed a "getle reminder" that this thread is about when a fight is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.
Stop trying to police and correct other members when you cant even follow your own bitchy advice.
Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:17Based on what the ring doctor and the referee stated, Littles only needed to survive one more round to win that fight, because Toney was being stopped otherwise if he didn't KO his opponent in the fourth round.
The scorecards are irrelevant when a fighter is only three minutes away from an inevitable loss, don't you agree?
Littles was not handily beating Toney. Your perception that being down on the cards and being badly hurt in the third round somehow equates to Littles handily beating Toney is irrelevant. Stick to the topic, bot.
When Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. entered the 12th round of his first fight against Meldrick Taylor, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
When Audley Harrison entered the 12th round of his rematch fight against Michael Sprott, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
When James Toney entered the 4th round of his fight against Tim Littles, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
In all three contests I listed, the fighters that got stopped simply needed to survive three minutes in order to secure their victories, but they failed to do so, because their opponents managed to “turn the fight on his head.”
I never mentioned Toney being down on the scorecards, but Littles was almost certainly seconds away from gaining victory. Challenge my actual words - don't make things up!
You didn't mention Toney being down on the cards because he wasn't, which is why the fight doesn't fit. If you weren't such a gigantic douchebag I wouldn't be calling you on this. But since you felt the need to post:
Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:38
As a getle reminder, here's what the topic of this thread is really about:
Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42Boxing turnarounds!
So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.
I figured you needed a "getle reminder" that this thread is about when a fight is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.
Stop trying to police and correct other members when you cant even follow your own bitchy advice.
Have a good one
That’s an awful lot of waffle to say very little!
Any fighter that is three minutes or less away from what would (under normal circumstances) be perceived as being a dead-cert guaranteed victory is "winning handily."
Even the OP who created the thread agrees. And you'd know this if you bothered to check the posts in this thread.
SenorPipino wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 16:09
Jerry Quarry, coming out of retirement in 1977, and fighting in slow motion against powder puff puncher Lorenzo Zanon.
A snail slow Quarry got hit with everything and really couldn't do anything in the ring. He was losing round after round.
But Zanon, who was somewhat fragile, began to slow down from his frantic non stop movement.
Quarry finally was able to land a few punches around the 8th round, and an exhausted Zanon folded easily in the 9th.
But Quarry knew his performance sucked and he retired again until the 80s.
Zanon turned up time and again in Vegas and nobody wanted him.
SenorPipino wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 16:09
Jerry Quarry, coming out of retirement in 1977, and fighting in slow motion against powder puff puncher Lorenzo Zanon.
A snail slow Quarry got hit with everything and really couldn't do anything in the ring. He was losing round after round.
But Zanon, who was somewhat fragile, began to slow down from his frantic non stop movement.
Quarry finally was able to land a few punches around the 8th round, and an exhausted Zanon folded easily in the 9th.
But Quarry knew his performance sucked and he retired again until the 80s.
Zanon turned up time and again in Vegas and nobody wanted him.
Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:17Based on what the ring doctor and the referee stated, Littles only needed to survive one more round to win that fight, because Toney was being stopped otherwise if he didn't KO his opponent in the fourth round.
The scorecards are irrelevant when a fighter is only three minutes away from an inevitable loss, don't you agree?
Littles was not handily beating Toney. Your perception that being down on the cards and being badly hurt in the third round somehow equates to Littles handily beating Toney is irrelevant. Stick to the topic, bot.
When Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. entered the 12th round of his first fight against Meldrick Taylor, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
When Audley Harrison entered the 12th round of his rematch fight against Michael Sprott, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
When James Toney entered the 4th round of his fight against Tim Littles, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
In all three contests I listed, the fighters that got stopped simply needed to survive three minutes in order to secure their victories, but they failed to do so, because their opponents managed to “turn the fight on his head.”
I never mentioned Toney being down on the scorecards, but Littles was almost certainly seconds away from gaining victory. Challenge my actual words - don't make things up!
You didn't mention Toney being down on the cards because he wasn't, which is why the fight doesn't fit. If you weren't such a gigantic douchebag I wouldn't be calling you on this. But since you felt the need to post:
Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:38
As a getle reminder, here's what the topic of this thread is really about:
Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42Boxing turnarounds!
So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.
I figured you needed a "getle reminder" that this thread is about when a fight is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.
Stop trying to police and correct other members when you cant even follow your own bitchy advice.
Have a good one
That’s an awful lot of waffle to say very little!
Any fighter that is three minutes or less away from what would (under normal circumstances) be perceived as being a dead-cert guaranteed victory is "winning handily."
Even the OP who created the thread agrees. And you'd know this if you bothered to check the posts in this thread.
You would know about lots of waffle to say little, wouldn’t you?
I’m going to need to you to provide me with a quote that referee Pat Russell was going to rule a punch caused the cut and not a clash of heads before you make outlandish claims.
SenorPipino wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 16:09
Jerry Quarry, coming out of retirement in 1977, and fighting in slow motion against powder puff puncher Lorenzo Zanon.
A snail slow Quarry got hit with everything and really couldn't do anything in the ring. He was losing round after round.
But Zanon, who was somewhat fragile, began to slow down from his frantic non stop movement.
Quarry finally was able to land a few punches around the 8th round, and an exhausted Zanon folded easily in the 9th.
But Quarry knew his performance sucked and he retired again until the 80s.
Zanon turned up time and again in Vegas and nobody wanted him.
SenorPipino wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 16:09
Jerry Quarry, coming out of retirement in 1977, and fighting in slow motion against powder puff puncher Lorenzo Zanon.
A snail slow Quarry got hit with everything and really couldn't do anything in the ring. He was losing round after round.
But Zanon, who was somewhat fragile, began to slow down from his frantic non stop movement.
Quarry finally was able to land a few punches around the 8th round, and an exhausted Zanon folded easily in the 9th.
But Quarry knew his performance sucked and he retired again until the 80s.
Zanon turned up time and again in Vegas and nobody wanted him.
Didn't he somehow get a title shot?
Somehow is the word. European heavyweights found themselves in demand in the late 1970s and early 1980s, with Zanon, Alfio Righetti, Alfredo Evangelista, John L. Gardner and Lucien Rodriguez making their way to the States for fights they had little chance of winning, although Evangelista did beat Renaldo Snipes and Rodriguez went 12 rounds with a bored Holmes. The balding Zanon had enough boxing ability to do OK for a few rounds before he caved in spectacularly, looking to the floor in most cases before falling.
Incidentally, defending world champion Jake LaMotta was behind on all three cards against the Frenchman Laurent Dauthuille when he stopped him with 13 seconds remaining in their 15-rounder in Detroit in 1950. Dauthuille had previously licked LaMotta in a 10-rounder.
Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 14:17Based on what the ring doctor and the referee stated, Littles only needed to survive one more round to win that fight, because Toney was being stopped otherwise if he didn't KO his opponent in the fourth round.
The scorecards are irrelevant when a fighter is only three minutes away from an inevitable loss, don't you agree?
Littles was not handily beating Toney. Your perception that being down on the cards and being badly hurt in the third round somehow equates to Littles handily beating Toney is irrelevant. Stick to the topic, bot.
When Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. entered the 12th round of his first fight against Meldrick Taylor, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
When Audley Harrison entered the 12th round of his rematch fight against Michael Sprott, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
When James Toney entered the 4th round of his fight against Tim Littles, his defeat seemed inevitable. He had to turn the fight on his head and stop his opponent within the next three minutes, because failure to do so would have resulted in a loss.
In all three contests I listed, the fighters that got stopped simply needed to survive three minutes in order to secure their victories, but they failed to do so, because their opponents managed to “turn the fight on his head.”
I never mentioned Toney being down on the scorecards, but Littles was almost certainly seconds away from gaining victory. Challenge my actual words - don't make things up!
You didn't mention Toney being down on the cards because he wasn't, which is why the fight doesn't fit. If you weren't such a gigantic douchebag I wouldn't be calling you on this. But since you felt the need to post:
Eolaithe wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 13:38
As a getle reminder, here's what the topic of this thread is really about:
Roars Like Me wrote: ↑25 Feb 2019, 07:42Boxing turnarounds!
So when a fighter is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.
I figured you needed a "getle reminder" that this thread is about when a fight is winning handily and then it's turned on it's head, literally.
Stop trying to police and correct other members when you cant even follow your own bitchy advice.
Have a good one
That’s an awful lot of waffle to say very little!
Any fighter that is three minutes or less away from what would (under normal circumstances) be perceived as being a dead-cert guaranteed victory is "winning handily."
Even the OP who created the thread agrees. And you'd know this if you bothered to check the posts in this thread.
You would know about lots of waffle to say little, wouldn’t you?
I’m going to need to you to provide me with a quote that referee Pat Russell was going to rule a punch caused the cut and not a clash of heads before you make outlandish claims.
a widely misremembered/misinterpreted fight
