Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

Kubrat Pulev vs Luis Ortiz

Pulev by decision
14
39%
Pulev by late stoppage or RTD
3
8%
Pulev by early KO
0
No votes
Ortiz by decison
14
39%
Ortiz by late stoppage or KO
2
6%
Ortiz by early KO
3
8%
 
Total votes: 36

Boxtune
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Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

Post by Boxtune »

I feel pulev is way better than hammer. Prove is malik Scott, if even younger ortiz couldn't catch Malik Scott, so i don't see him stopping pulev.
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Onetimeonly
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Dang, not the fans. I guess I'd go Ortiz in a brutal snoozer Dec.
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Ortiz by decision. I don't have any interest in seeing this fight. Both need to be in with someone who will press the action in order to make it interesting.
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I really like to see this fight. I feel pulev never received credit because of his mistake gun slinging with klitchko and not speaking english and not living in US made him even less marketable ... i truly believe if there was enoug money in fighting ortiz, pulev had gone for it already. But with Bob Arum that's possible to make this fight money making.
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

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Pulev can outjab Ortiz to decision.
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Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:35 I really like to see this fight. I feel pulev never received credit because of his mistake gun slinging with klitchko and not speaking english and not living in US made him even less marketable ... i truly believe if there was enoug money in fighting ortiz, pulev had gone for it already. But with Bob Arum that's possible to make this fight money making.
Ortiz is with al. Not going to happen. Pulev has rarely been on us TV, I think that is because he's unwatchable. Not because he doesn't speak English, ever heard of canelo? Nobody here would care where he lives.
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

Post by sturm vogel »

Ortiz is waning; Pulev appears to have learned and matured. Take Pulev on decision. Pulev not a crushing puncher and Ortiz is still very durable. Of course, depends on location of fight.
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

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Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:59
Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:35 I really like to see this fight. I feel pulev never received credit because of his mistake gun slinging with klitchko and not speaking english and not living in US made him even less marketable ... i truly believe if there was enoug money in fighting ortiz, pulev had gone for it already. But with Bob Arum that's possible to make this fight money making.
Ortiz is with al. Not going to happen. Pulev has rarely been on us TV, I think that is because he's unwatchable. Not because he doesn't speak English, ever heard of canelo? Nobody here would care where he lives.
Did pulev sleep with your sister in your bed ????? !!!
Why does fornicate canelo needs to speak english when US, mexico and almost entire south american understand his language .. how many people does speak Bulgarian ?!! You fu#c#king clown
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

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If Pulev can survive the first 3-4 rounds, I'd have him scraping a decision. Both guys are well on the slide, to me, they have lost relevancy.
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

Post by HyacinthusTurnipseed »

Pulev by lopsided but uninspiring decision over 10. I could see a demoralised Ortiz staying on the stool earlier than that if it was the full 12, but a decision is probably still more likely. Can't see any other result.
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

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Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 14:18
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:59
Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:35 I really like to see this fight. I feel pulev never received credit because of his mistake gun slinging with klitchko and not speaking english and not living in US made him even less marketable ... i truly believe if there was enoug money in fighting ortiz, pulev had gone for it already. But with Bob Arum that's possible to make this fight money making.
Ortiz is with al. Not going to happen. Pulev has rarely been on us TV, I think that is because he's unwatchable. Not because he doesn't speak English, ever heard of canelo? Nobody here would care where he lives.
Did pulev sleep with your sister in your bed ????? !!!
Why does eff canelo needs to speak english when US, mexico and almost entire south american understand his language .. how many people does speak Bulgarian ?!! You fu#c#king clown
Settle down tiny Tim. Americans don't care about boxing. It's not even a top 10 sport here. Wlad and vitali speak perfect English and many of their fights weren't televised. All of pulevs will be now and they'll all be boring. He's not unskilled he's just not going to appeal to the masses in a niche sport in America. As for my sister, she can do what she wants. Pulev would love her husband's bank account, so I think shes good. Also, she doesn't speak Bulgarian. шибан клоун!!!
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

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Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 14:49
Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 14:18
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:59
Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:35
Did pulev sleep with your sister in your bed ????? !!!
Why does eff canelo needs to speak english when US, mexico and almost entire south american understand his language .. how many people does speak Bulgarian ?!! You fu#c#king clown
Settle down tiny Tim. Americans don't care about boxing. It's not even a top 10 sport here. Wlad and vitali speak perfect English and many of their fights weren't televised. All of pulevs will be now and they'll all be boring. He's not unskilled he's just not going to appeal to the masses in a niche sport in America. As for my sister, she can do what she wants. Pulev would love her husband's bank account, so I think shes good. Also, she doesn't speak Bulgarian.
Did Vitali klitchko spoke perfect english ? 🙄🙄🙄🙄
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

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Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 15:03
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 14:49
Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 14:18
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:59
Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:35
Did pulev sleep with your sister in your bed ????? !!!
Why does eff canelo needs to speak english when US, mexico and almost entire south american understand his language .. how many people does speak Bulgarian ?!! You fu#c#king clown
Settle down tiny Tim. Americans don't care about boxing. It's not even a top 10 sport here. Wlad and vitali speak perfect English and many of their fights weren't televised. All of pulevs will be now and they'll all be boring. He's not unskilled he's just not going to appeal to the masses in a niche sport in America. As for my sister, she can do what she wants. Pulev would love her husband's bank account, so I think shes good. Also, she doesn't speak Bulgarian.
Did Vitali klitchko spoke perfect english ? i couldn't understand his post fight lennox lewis interview at all ,
You probably understood pulev post fight interview defeat to klitchko 🙄🙄🙄🙄
I didn't watch wlad/pulev do ggg or Manny speak perfect English? Roberto Duran?. шибан клоун
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

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Pulev by Decision if they fought at any point. Ortiz has a punchers chance though.
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:clap: Boxtune just may be the reincarnation of Roy Rogers’ horse.
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

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Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:35 I really like to see this fight. I feel pulev never received credit because of his mistake gun slinging with klitchko
Hell, that's about the only fight I'll give him credit for. Pulev receives no credit because he's awful to watch.
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

Post by northern »

If this fight happens I see Ortiz taking the decision or ending it early.

Pulev has been one of those heavyweights who seems to be right at the top of most rankings but the championship is just out of reach, Joshua now, W. Klitschko before him. The latter of the two beat Pulev, arguably when he was at a better stage of his career and If the injury hadn't happened before he would have fought and lost to Joshua.

Ortiz on the other hand seems to be the nearly man who is right on the tail of the champions, Granted he lost to Wilder but he still seems to be just a fraction ahead of Pulev to challenge them (Wilder, AJ) but has the stopping power to decide a fight when it matters where as Pulev has the technical ability and the toughness to drag out the bout and win but not stop an opponent at the very top.
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

Post by jamamb »

i dont see ortiz stopping anyone at the very top either, malik scott and hammer went the distance and kauffman was a minute away, wilder stayed up and kod him

prob hes still better then pulev but neither beat any of the top 3 guys
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

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If the 240 pound Pulev who fought Hughie Fury shows up I say Ortiz beats him.
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I feel that Pulev is underated because he's less fun to watch while Ortiz is overrated because he had Wilder in trouble for a round. Pulev by wide decision.
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Evander wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 23:15 If the 240 pound Pulev who fought Hughie Fury shows up I say Ortiz beats him.
I don't think so. Meantime everyone expected hugie fury to beat pulev because they assumed him to be very good . Pulev made chisora look bad too . PULEV IS POISON. I feel positive that he will expose Ortiz too.
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

Post by Enlightened-One »

Kubrat Pulev beats Luis Ortiz, probably by decision.

I don’t think this would be a good fight.

I also doubt that anyone would attempt to make this contest, since the Bulgarian is already the mandatory challenger to AJ’s IBF title. Kubrat has far bigger fish to fry and Ortiz is probably at the back of the queue in terms of options.

In addition to that, Pulev is a Top Rank fighter, whereas Ortiz is with the PBC and doesn’t have anything to offer Kubrat, in terms of a sizable payday or world title challenger credentials.

There is no reason for Arum and Haymon to consider working with each other to make this fight, since the bout isn’t commercially big enough to warrant sharing the proceeds.

Luis Ortiz is now a member of the “who needs you?” club. There is no reason for any of the big names in the heavyweight division (except for Dillian Whyte) to consider facing him. High risk - Low reward.

Within the next 18 months or so, the Cuban will likely become a stepping stone or a gatekeeper for young up-and-coming prospects hoping to create a name for themselves on the world-scene.
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

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Boxtune wrote: 04 Mar 2019, 05:01
Evander wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 23:15 If the 240 pound Pulev who fought Hughie Fury shows up I say Ortiz beats him.
I don't think so. Meantime everyone expected hugie fury to beat pulev because they assumed him to be very good . Pulev made chisora look bad too . PULEV IS POISON. I feel positive that he will expose Ortiz too.
Pulev is definitely poison to the eyes. Watching an entire fight could have a sleeping beauty like affect. Nobody thought Hughie was very good or he was going to beat pulev. Great post!!!;
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Re: Who wins if they fight this year ? Pulev VS Oritz

Post by sturm vogel »

I like watching boxing even when there are no knockdowns or knockouts. Skill and tactics are very entertaining for a trained eye. Pulev is as good to watch as any other heavyweight. There would not be much of a sport if all we were to watch is the top 3-4 of each weight class or only watched the men who fight clobber or be clobbered.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 15:06
Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 15:03
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 14:49
Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 14:18
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:59
Boxtune wrote: 03 Mar 2019, 13:35
Did pulev sleep with your sister in your bed ????? !!!
Why does eff canelo needs to speak english when US, mexico and almost entire south american understand his language .. how many people does speak Bulgarian ?!! You fu#c#king clown
Settle down tiny Tim. Americans don't care about boxing. It's not even a top 10 sport here. Wlad and vitali speak perfect English and many of their fights weren't televised. All of pulevs will be now and they'll all be boring. He's not unskilled he's just not going to appeal to the masses in a niche sport in America. As for my sister, she can do what she wants. Pulev would love her husband's bank account, so I think shes good. Also, she doesn't speak Bulgarian.
Did Vitali klitchko spoke perfect english ? i couldn't understand his post fight lennox lewis interview at all ,
You probably understood pulev post fight interview defeat to klitchko 🙄🙄🙄🙄
I didn't watch wlad/pulev do ggg or Manny speak perfect English? Roberto Duran?. шибан клоун
Hah, I put that through translate.

I think Ortiz would win this. He would find ‘chin on a platter’ pulev and stop him.
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