MMA

[Onetimeonly]

The only good fight was Munhoz-Garbrandt. Jones needs to move up to heavyweight. There is no one at Light Heavyweight to challenge him.

I don't think anyone at heavy can either.

Well I want to see it. I think Ngannou would beat him.

Certainly more interesting than a built up rocky with no fire. I'd honestly like to see him fight Walker.

[punchoutsb]

Prelims were way better than the main card.

Walker dislocating his shoulder doing the worm has got to be right up there with the dumbest MMA injuries I've seen.

As much as I hate stoppages like Askren/Robbie, I think it was Herbs only option. Robbies arm dropped completely limp...reminded me a little of Lee/Chiesa. There's an in-between time when you take a nap from a choke and in both cases these guys were there. The main reason I don't mind the stoppage is that in neither case were they fighting the choke at all.

[Onetimeonly]

Prelims were way better than the main card.

Walker dislocating his shoulder doing the worm has got to be right up there with the dumbest MMA injuries I've seen.

As much as I hate stoppages like Askren/Robbie, I think it was Herbs only option. Robbies arm dropped completely limp...reminded me a little of Lee/Chiesa. There's an in-between time when you take a nap from a choke and in both cases these guys were there. The main reason I don't mind the stoppage is that in neither case were they fighting the choke at all.

One thing I have to give herb, is I was saying to the guys over here watching that he'll never tap and Dean knows that too so he was probably more alert than ever looking for him to go out.

[punchoutsb]

Prelims were way better than the main card.

Walker dislocating his shoulder doing the worm has got to be right up there with the dumbest MMA injuries I've seen.

As much as I hate stoppages like Askren/Robbie, I think it was Herbs only option. Robbies arm dropped completely limp...reminded me a little of Lee/Chiesa. There's an in-between time when you take a nap from a choke and in both cases these guys were there. The main reason I don't mind the stoppage is that in neither case were they fighting the choke at all.

One thing I have to give herb, is I was saying to the guys over here watching that he'll never tap and Dean knows that too so he was probably more alert than ever looking for him to go out.

Great point that most people forget; these refs know the fighters. As much as I'd preferred a "better" ending, I don't mind the stoppage at all. I also don't want to see a rematch. I'd rather see Colby/Usman, Askren/Till-Masvidal, and Lawler against somebody link Ponz.

[Onetimeonly]

Prelims were way better than the main card.

Walker dislocating his shoulder doing the worm has got to be right up there with the dumbest MMA injuries I've seen.

As much as I hate stoppages like Askren/Robbie, I think it was Herbs only option. Robbies arm dropped completely limp...reminded me a little of Lee/Chiesa. There's an in-between time when you take a nap from a choke and in both cases these guys were there. The main reason I don't mind the stoppage is that in neither case were they fighting the choke at all.

One thing I have to give herb, is I was saying to the guys over here watching that he'll never tap and Dean knows that too so he was probably more alert than ever looking for him to go out.

Great point that most people forget; these refs know the fighters. As much as I'd preferred a "better" ending, I don't mind the stoppage at all. I also don't want to see a rematch. I'd rather see Colby/Usman, Askren/Till-Masvidal, and Lawler against somebody link Ponz.

I'd really like to see Lawler vs Nate. Agreed on Colby, he has to be next. I think askren vs wonderboy/Pettis makes sense.

[punchoutsb]

Prelims were way better than the main card.

Walker dislocating his shoulder doing the worm has got to be right up there with the dumbest MMA injuries I've seen.

As much as I hate stoppages like Askren/Robbie, I think it was Herbs only option. Robbies arm dropped completely limp...reminded me a little of Lee/Chiesa. There's an in-between time when you take a nap from a choke and in both cases these guys were there. The main reason I don't mind the stoppage is that in neither case were they fighting the choke at all.

One thing I have to give herb, is I was saying to the guys over here watching that he'll never tap and Dean knows that too so he was probably more alert than ever looking for him to go out.

Great point that most people forget; these refs know the fighters. As much as I'd preferred a "better" ending, I don't mind the stoppage at all. I also don't want to see a rematch. I'd rather see Colby/Usman, Askren/Till-Masvidal, and Lawler against somebody link Ponz.

I'd really like to see Lawler vs Nate. Agreed on Colby, he has to be next. I think askren vs wonderboy/Pettis makes sense.

Lawler and Nate would be great.

Colby/Usman will be boring, but it's fight to make. I think Colby would have beat Woodley 5-0 too, he's got the best MMA wrestling in the division but Usman has the striking advantage.

[Onetimeonly]

Prelims were way better than the main card.

Walker dislocating his shoulder doing the worm has got to be right up there with the dumbest MMA injuries I've seen.

As much as I hate stoppages like Askren/Robbie, I think it was Herbs only option. Robbies arm dropped completely limp...reminded me a little of Lee/Chiesa. There's an in-between time when you take a nap from a choke and in both cases these guys were there. The main reason I don't mind the stoppage is that in neither case were they fighting the choke at all.

One thing I have to give herb, is I was saying to the guys over here watching that he'll never tap and Dean knows that too so he was probably more alert than ever looking for him to go out.

Great point that most people forget; these refs know the fighters. As much as I'd preferred a "better" ending, I don't mind the stoppage at all. I also don't want to see a rematch. I'd rather see Colby/Usman, Askren/Till-Masvidal, and Lawler against somebody link Ponz.

I'd really like to see Lawler vs Nate. Agreed on Colby, he has to be next. I think askren vs wonderboy/Pettis makes sense.

Lawler and Nate would be great.

Colby/Usman will be boring, but it's fight to make. I think Colby would have beat Woodley 5-0 too, he's got the best MMA wrestling in the division but Usman has the striking advantage.

Usmans wrestling was pretty insane last night. I can't stand woodley so I loved that result. Goat my ass. He also whines and plays the race card where it isn't warranted. He couldn't carry Matt Hughes spit bucket and his effort was pathetic.

[Baby Face Finster]

Was Kamaru trying to go after Colby when he left the ring? I saw his handlers grab and divert him away. Looks like bad blood for that match up. Make it happen Dana.

[punchoutsb]

Prelims were way better than the main card.

Walker dislocating his shoulder doing the worm has got to be right up there with the dumbest MMA injuries I've seen.

As much as I hate stoppages like Askren/Robbie, I think it was Herbs only option. Robbies arm dropped completely limp...reminded me a little of Lee/Chiesa. There's an in-between time when you take a nap from a choke and in both cases these guys were there. The main reason I don't mind the stoppage is that in neither case were they fighting the choke at all.

One thing I have to give herb, is I was saying to the guys over here watching that he'll never tap and Dean knows that too so he was probably more alert than ever looking for him to go out.

Great point that most people forget; these refs know the fighters. As much as I'd preferred a "better" ending, I don't mind the stoppage at all. I also don't want to see a rematch. I'd rather see Colby/Usman, Askren/Till-Masvidal, and Lawler against somebody link Ponz.

I'd really like to see Lawler vs Nate. Agreed on Colby, he has to be next. I think askren vs wonderboy/Pettis makes sense.

Lawler and Nate would be great.

Colby/Usman will be boring, but it's fight to make. I think Colby would have beat Woodley 5-0 too, he's got the best MMA wrestling in the division but Usman has the striking advantage.

Usmans wrestling was pretty insane last night. I can't stand woodley so I loved that result. Goat my ass. He also whines and plays the race card where it isn't warranted. He couldn't carry Matt Hughes spit bucket and his effort was pathetic.

I don't want to sound like on the internet experts, but I've felt Woodley was always overrated. GSP would have shut him down. I don't think Usman keeps the belt long either. I slightly favor Colby, and think Askren would dominate either. I'd actually be really interested in seeing Usman/Lawler but the time for that has passed now since Robbie won't be getting anymore title shots.

[Impractical Poster]

WTF was wrong with Woodley last night... He did the complete opposite of everything his coaches were instructing him to do. It didn't even look like he was attempting to do what they said.

What about Zabit... Dude looks legit! I've got to see more, but from what I've seen, he looks like he'd be a great match for Max.

[punchoutsb]

WTF was wrong with Woodley last night... He did the complete opposite of everything his coaches were instructing him to do. It didn't even look like he was attempting to do what they said.

What about Zabit... Dude looks legit! I've got to see more, but from what I've seen, he looks like he'd be a great match for Max.

Usman just completely shut him down. Can you imagine the beatdown GSP would have given him if that fight had actually happened?

Zabit has some very high level skills, but I don't think he has the power to win it all and keep it. He's not feather fisted, but he's likely not above average when it comes to power. His strongest point is that he has a good ground game too, so he can afford to be fearlessly flashy.

[Impractical Poster]

WTF was wrong with Woodley last night... He did the complete opposite of everything his coaches were instructing him to do. It didn't even look like he was attempting to do what they said.

What about Zabit... Dude looks legit! I've got to see more, but from what I've seen, he looks like he'd be a great match for Max.

Usman just completely shut him down. Can you imagine the beatdown GSP would have given him if that fight had actually happened?

Zabit has some very high level skills, but I don't think he has the power to win it all and keep it. He's not feather fisted, but he's likely not above average when it comes to power. His strongest point is that he has a good ground game too, so he can afford to be fearlessly flashy.

Zabit has insane footwork and controls distance very well. I don't think he's the most powerful striker either. But with his skills and attributes, he doesn't need the power. Having a lot of power can prove to be a curse in many cases for those who start out technically sound. Personally, I find him a strong threat to the title.

[Onetimeonly]

WTF was wrong with Woodley last night... He did the complete opposite of everything his coaches were instructing him to do. It didn't even look like he was attempting to do what they said.

What about Zabit... Dude looks legit! I've got to see more, but from what I've seen, he looks like he'd be a great match for Max.

Woodley found someone that could take him down and it quickly broke him.

[Tinnie]

WTF was wrong with Woodley last night... He did the complete opposite of everything his coaches were instructing him to do. It didn't even look like he was attempting to do what they said.

What about Zabit... Dude looks legit! I've got to see more, but from what I've seen, he looks like he'd be a great match for Max.

Woodley found someone that could take him down and it quickly broke him.

I know you are not a fan but i genuinely felt for Woodley out there..... he was literally broken.... at the end of the 4th he was holding back tears.... cant imagine what it feels like.... atleast getting starched you can wake up in the dressing room

[Tinnie]

Was fantastic seeing the Ruthless one back.... proper lit Askren up early and slapped him around the ring like a pinball .... unfortunate end, but i did think he was out at the time too....

TJ could learn a thing or two from Lawler.... initially upset, but quickly composed himself and apologized to Dean, he was very respectful to all involved..... bloke's a true champion

TJ had a more convincing loss and went on to cry to anyone that would listen from the decision, to the ensuing weeks....

[Oiky]

Lawler is a beast no doubt

[jujigatame]

Usman is incredible. He's fought a who's who of the division and I dunno if anyone has even won a round against him. We are looking at an all-time great in the making here.

[Oiky]

Yes usman is 100% on the way to big things

[Baby Face Finster]

Usman is incredible. He's fought a who's who of the division and I dunno if anyone has even won a round against him. We are looking at an all-time great in the making here.

Him against Colby should be next. That should be a test for him.

[Tinnie]

My understanding is Colby has been told he is first in line.

Apparently another incident nearly spilled over in the casino that night.

Usman seems to despise the pudendum.... hope he mops the floor with him...

[Baby Face Finster]

My understanding is Colby has been told he is first in line.

Apparently another incident nearly spilled over in the casino that night.

Usman seems to despise the pudendum.... hope he mops the floor with him...

If anyone has the cardio to hang with Usman it's Colby. He might even have better cardio than Usman.

[Tinnie]

My understanding is Colby has been told he is first in line.

Apparently another incident nearly spilled over in the casino that night.

Usman seems to despise the pudendum.... hope he mops the floor with him...

If anyone has the cardio to hang with Usman it's Colby. He might even have better cardio than Usman.

Colby definitely has a better gas tank imo. Usman is a massive guy. Colby's cardio will only be a factor if he can keep it standing for the good portion of the match, and that in itself has it's own risks.

[Impractical Poster]

I'm not sure how to compare Colby and Marty's cardio as I've not seen either tire. I do think Usman is a better overall fighter than Colby, and would be comfortable picking him over Colby when they meet.

[Onetimeonly]

My understanding is Colby has been told he is first in line.

Apparently another incident nearly spilled over in the casino that night.

Usman seems to despise the pudendum.... hope he mops the floor with him...

If anyone has the cardio to hang with Usman it's Colby. He might even have better cardio than Usman.

Colby definitely has a better gas tank imo. Usman is a massive guy. Colby's cardio will only be a factor if he can keep it standing for the good portion of the match, and that in itself has it's own risks.

You think Colby is the better striker?

[Tinnie]

My understanding is Colby has been told he is first in line.

Apparently another incident nearly spilled over in the casino that night.

Usman seems to despise the pudendum.... hope he mops the floor with him...

If anyone has the cardio to hang with Usman it's Colby. He might even have better cardio than Usman.

Colby definitely has a better gas tank imo. Usman is a massive guy. Colby's cardio will only be a factor if he can keep it standing for the good portion of the match, and that in itself has it's own risks.

You think Colby is the better striker?

Honestly i'm not sure without going over their fights.

I think Colby has a higher work rate and output... and footwork... also I think he has more variety with the hands...... Usman is much more measured.... but very dangerous.... crazy power....

On the ground all Usman...

Lean towards Usman lol