Caleb Plant's Mother Shot and Killed By Deputy in Cheatham

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Fox News in Tennessee reports that 51-year-old Beth Plant - mother of IBF super middleweight champion Caleb Plant - was shot and killed by a deputy in Cheatham County.

According to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, paramedics were transporting Beth Plant to the hospital early Saturday morning when she allegedly became combative and pulled a knife from her backpack.

The ambulance driver pulled over on New Hope Road and Highway 41A and called for police.

The TBI states in their reports that when the Cheatham County Sheriff's Office arrived, Beth Plan allegedly brandished the knife on a deputy - who shot her. She died from the sustained injuries at the hospital.

Caleb acknowledged the passing on social media Saturday, "Love you forever and always momma. You always told me “work hard bubba” and I did."

No details have been given regarding why Beth Plant was being treated by paramedics.

An investigation is ongoing.
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woah, rough uprbringing for caleb im guessing :-?
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There are some serious underlying circumstances going on here.

"You had your demons but you’d give the shoes off your feet and your last dollar to someone who needed it less than you. I know in the end it’s your demons we always talked about that got the best of you". - Caleb Plant


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Horrible situation. I can't imagine what the family is dealing with at this point.
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oogiebe wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 10:11 Horrible situation. I can't imagine what the family is dealing with at this point.
It's also a horrible situation for the police officer that was forced to shoot and kill a woman he didn't even know because she was going to stab him.
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chuck9788 wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 10:11 Horrible situation. I can't imagine what the family is dealing with at this point.
It's also a horrible situation for the police officer that was forced to shoot and kill a woman he didn't even know because she was going to stab him.
Did he have to really kill a mentally ill person? No pepper spray? Night stick? Bullet in the leg?
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:41
chuck9788 wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 10:11 Horrible situation. I can't imagine what the family is dealing with at this point.
It's also a horrible situation for the police officer that was forced to shoot and kill a woman he didn't even know because she was going to stab him.
Did he have to really kill a mentally ill person? No pepper spray? Night stick? Bullet in the leg?
Cops aren't required to play around with their own lives.

If someone is threatening them with deadly force, they're authorized to protect themselves in the same fashion.

They may only get one chance to protect themselves.

Just because the person confronting them is mentally ill in no way requires treating them with kid gloves.

A mentally ill person's actions can be just as deadly as a "sane" persons.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:41
chuck9788 wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 10:11 Horrible situation. I can't imagine what the family is dealing with at this point.
It's also a horrible situation for the police officer that was forced to shoot and kill a woman he didn't even know because she was going to stab him.
Did he have to really kill a mentally ill person? No pepper spray? Night stick? Bullet in the leg?
Roy! You beat me to it! 100%. Chuck, I find your post utterly thoughtless. Get your facts and rationale in line next time. Serious.
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SenorPipino wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:49
Nightmare Roy wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:41
chuck9788 wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 10:11 Horrible situation. I can't imagine what the family is dealing with at this point.
It's also a horrible situation for the police officer that was forced to shoot and kill a woman he didn't even know because she was going to stab him.
Did he have to really kill a mentally ill person? No pepper spray? Night stick? Bullet in the leg?
Cops aren't required to play around with their own lives.

If someone is threatening them with deadly force, they're authorized to protect themselves in the same fashion.

They may only get one chance to protect themselves.

Just because the person confronting them is mentally ill in no way requires treating them with kid gloves.

A mentally ill person's actions can be just as deadly as a "sane" persons.
A little time and effort and not a gun vs a knife would be more in line with "in the same fashion."
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SenorPipino wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:49
Nightmare Roy wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:41
chuck9788 wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 10:11 Horrible situation. I can't imagine what the family is dealing with at this point.
It's also a horrible situation for the police officer that was forced to shoot and kill a woman he didn't even know because she was going to stab him.
Did he have to really kill a mentally ill person? No pepper spray? Night stick? Bullet in the leg?
Cops aren't required to play around with their own lives.

If someone is threatening them with deadly force, they're authorized to protect themselves in the same fashion.

They may only get one chance to protect themselves.

Just because the person confronting them is mentally ill in no way requires treating them with kid gloves.

A mentally ill person's actions can be just as deadly as a "sane" persons.
In the U.K. It would be pepper spray and a big night stick, as the police are not armed most of the time, she would still be alive, maybe we are doing it wrong over here? :maybe:
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:58
SenorPipino wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:49
Nightmare Roy wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:41
chuck9788 wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 10:11 Horrible situation. I can't imagine what the family is dealing with at this point.
It's also a horrible situation for the police officer that was forced to shoot and kill a woman he didn't even know because she was going to stab him.
Did he have to really kill a mentally ill person? No pepper spray? Night stick? Bullet in the leg?
Cops aren't required to play around with their own lives.

If someone is threatening them with deadly force, they're authorized to protect themselves in the same fashion.

They may only get one chance to protect themselves.

Just because the person confronting them is mentally ill in no way requires treating them with kid gloves.

A mentally ill person's actions can be just as deadly as a "sane" persons.
In the U.K. It would be pepper spray and a big night stick, as the police are not armed most of the time, she would still be alive, maybe we are doing it wrong over here? :maybe:

I don't know if you're doing it wrong.

You would have to tell me how many UK police officers were seriously injured or killed because they were confronted by deadly force and only had a big stick to protect themselves.

I can't imagine the amount of carnage there would be on US LE if they weren't allowed to carry guns.

There's no shortage of hoodlums and midcreants here who would blow them away in a second if they didn't fear effective retaliation.
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Yeah maybe it's just me, but I can't imagine a 51 year old woman who's not in her right mind, and obviously is having some sort of medical issue in the first place anyway couldn't have been subdued without deadly force. The Cop undoubtedly could've handled this better, so could the ambulance driver for that matter. They couldn't have strapped her down or sedated her?

Lots of what the f*ck to unpack on this one for sure, but that's for the family to do. Sad story for sure.
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SenorPipino wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 13:16
Nightmare Roy wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:58
SenorPipino wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:49
Nightmare Roy wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:41
chuck9788 wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 10:11 Horrible situation. I can't imagine what the family is dealing with at this point.
It's also a horrible situation for the police officer that was forced to shoot and kill a woman he didn't even know because she was going to stab him.
Did he have to really kill a mentally ill person? No pepper spray? Night stick? Bullet in the leg?
Cops aren't required to play around with their own lives.

If someone is threatening them with deadly force, they're authorized to protect themselves in the same fashion.

They may only get one chance to protect themselves.

Just because the person confronting them is mentally ill in no way requires treating them with kid gloves.

A mentally ill person's actions can be just as deadly as a "sane" persons.
In the U.K. It would be pepper spray and a big night stick, as the police are not armed most of the time, she would still be alive, maybe we are doing it wrong over here? :maybe:

I don't know if you're doing it wrong.

You would have to tell me how many UK police officers were seriously injured or killed because they were confronted by deadly force and only had a big stick to protect themselves.

I can't imagine the amount of carnage there would be on US LE if they weren't allowed to carry guns.

There's no shortage of hoodlums and midcreants here who would blow them away in a second if they didn't fear effective retaliation.
Rather disturbingly, attacks upon medical staff here in the UK have increased alarmingly in the past decade or so. In fact the need for security in public places has reached unprecedented levels, but that's another issue.

Of course in each and every case the perpetrator can be said to have been emotionally unbalanced, but how the medics do their jobs under these conditions I have no idea.

Talk about heroes..
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The cops in U.S. are crazy
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Steo wrote: 13 Mar 2019, 15:07 The cops in U.S. are crazy
Right...this situation shows all US cops are crazy. UGH! :witzend:
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Unless we understand the situation fully, it is unfair to pass judgment on this officer.

Has Caleb raised a stink about it?
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Impractical Poster wrote: 13 Mar 2019, 17:35 Unless we understand the situation fully, it is unfair to pass judgment on this officer.

Has Caleb raised a stink about it?
While I have the deepest respect for our men in blue, this particular officer is in trouble. Excessive force is criminal.
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Impractical Poster wrote: 13 Mar 2019, 17:35 Unless we understand the situation fully, it is unfair to pass judgment on this officer.

Has Caleb raised a stink about it?
He hasn’t said a bad word has he? Nothing.

Looks like he knows his mum was troubled.
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SenorPipino wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:49
Nightmare Roy wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:41
chuck9788 wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 12:00
oogiebe wrote: 11 Mar 2019, 10:11 Horrible situation. I can't imagine what the family is dealing with at this point.
It's also a horrible situation for the police officer that was forced to shoot and kill a woman he didn't even know because she was going to stab him.
Did he have to really kill a mentally ill person? No pepper spray? Night stick? Bullet in the leg?
Cops aren't required to play around with their own lives.

If someone is threatening them with deadly force, they're authorized to protect themselves in the same fashion.

They may only get one chance to protect themselves.

Just because the person confronting them is mentally ill in no way requires treating them with kid gloves.

A mentally ill person's actions can be just as deadly as a "sane" persons.
The cop's life was NOT in danger; that's just nonsense. Why call on public peace officers if all they know how to do is fire a gun. Anyone can do that. Where is their specialized training?

There are fifty ways till tomorrow to stop a woman with a knife. I don't know about you, but were I present in a situation where some woman has a knife, the very last thing I would do is pull out a gun and shoot her. That was the first thing the cop did. Most people would do as I would and simply find anything and do anything to stop her. That is what most people do when present in such a situation. And, most of us wouldn't kill our fellow woman like that because we know if we did we would probably get accused of murder.
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If a person is confronting a cop with a knife, she presents a threat on his life.

He's entitled to use deadly force. He can do what's neccesary to protect himself.

Why do so many support the assailant over the right of a cop to go home at night?

If you don't want an officer to use a gun on you, don't pose a threat to his life.

It seems so simple to me.
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SenorPipino wrote: 13 Mar 2019, 19:56 If a person is confronting a cop with a knife, she presents a threat on his life.

He's entitled to use deadly force. He can do what's neccesary to protect himself.

Why do so many support the assailant over the right of a cop to go home at night?

If you don't want an officer to use a gun on you, don't pose a threat to his life.

It seems so simple to me.
Police have a variety of tools at their disposal. Pepper spray; baton; Taser; pistol. If she had a gun, I'd understand the cop's actions, but he/she could've used taser or pepper spray on the 50 something year old woman. Give me a break.
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She’s white. Jesse Jackson and CNN can concentrate on other topics.
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was she a gentle giant
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