Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

[Best Coast]

Here's a list of SNAC sponsored athletes.

https://snac.com/blogs/sponsored-athletes

After reading up on SNAC training program I am now expecting Mikey to make a respectable showing against Spence and not get humiliated by the bigger, stronger fighter (like I originally expected). Spence wins competitive but clearcut decision.

[IKSRTFO]

lol nope what, canelo was 140 at around 15, 147 is not the same weight i was referring too

ggg was mentioned, but he didnt even turn pro till 24 at 159, at 24 canelo was weighing at 155 not 140. and at 19/20 ggg still had amateur fights weighing no more then 141. so you compare them at similar ages and also now, and that 20 pound size difference from 15 year old canelo and grown man ggg pretty much evaporates.

canelo has now weighed more then ggg ever has multiple times too

And Garcia was in his early 20s when he was at 126. He had trouble making that.

Pacquiao started at 112, Margarito 147. Margarito outweighed Pacquiao by 17lbs in the fight. How did that turn out head to head?

[IKSRTFO]

I’m not saying he’s ”chinny” or has a bad chin, BUT, I am saying that, given his style and fearlessness, he WILL get caught in exchanges AND he will get hurt and get KO’d. If you get dropped by Martinez, rest assured, Spence has the power to take Mikey out. BTW, I’m rooting for Garcia, but this is just how I see it playing out. I’ll be happy if proven wrong.

Like Pacquiao being dropped and stopped earlier in his career by smaller men, yet didn't get stopped by bigger Morales, Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, and Mayweather?

The biggest guy who hurt Pacquiao is Marquez out of all the names mentioned.

I understand the comparison you’re getting at.... but it’s really a stretch to compare Garcia to Pacquaio. One is a smart, workmanlike boxer with good power whom is/was a grown man throughout his career. Pacquaio literally “grew up” physically and age/maturity wise over the course of his career. So, really, sort of a stretch. As far as any of that goes, Garcia prolly has a much better chin than Manny. (I had Marquez winning all four fights, BTW.) I still think that match-up and style-wise, this is a really, really tough one for Garcia. As far as ANY of it goes, Manny prolly still beats Spence and Thurman.... even though he’s way past it.

..... and that’s keeping the whole PED speculations aside in regards to Manny.

He did but they've been at similar weights at similar ages, both drained to make 126 and 130. Add to that, Garcia fought at 132 as an amateur. It's forgotten he actually fought Terrence Crawford twice and beat him once.

[Breaducce]

Exactly. Garcia is an excellent boxer but oddly enough people have been overrating his boxing ability as if he has the legs and Defense of Terrance Crawford, or to an even more absurd degree like Floyds. Garcia has good defense but it is leaky and he can and has been touched by BIG shots throughout his career. In his last fight, Lipinets landed, left hooks to the head and body and overhand rights like it was out of fashion and despite being dropped lipinets was not deterred by mikeys punching power and continued to make mikey uncomfortable with his pressure. Lipinets is not half the boxer Spence is and does not have comparable power, and accuracy. Spence is also an excellent boxer and when he is not punishing mikey on the inside with his superior infighting skills he is gonna be using his angles, great balance, accuracy and timing to land bludgeoning blows on mikey, while also being able to step out the back door and escape any counter shots. Spence is also going to counter the hell out of mikeys jab right hand combination that he often over-commits with and that is what I think is going to end the fight, or be the beginning of the end for mikey.

And you are doing the same, talking about Crawford as if Terrence was Withaker or Floyd.


Crawford and García are in a very similar level, Mikey is a lighter fighter than him.


Gamboa outboxed Crawford in some rounds and landed on him big shots.

Benavídez landed on Crawford big counter shots too.

Loma took punishment against Salido and Salido forced him to fight in the inside, Linares knocked down him, Pedraza landed big hands too.

And?

Thats pretty normal, this is boxing.

Óscar was near to be k.o'ed by that italian guy.

Maidana landed a lot of Big punches on Floyd.


García has a very good defense, and look the face of Lipinets, he took punishment. And every training camp is different, García looks stronger this time.

And another thing.

García won a belt in 126 pounds.

There are 21 pounds of difference in this fight.

Thats like Crawford fighting against Canelo in 156 pounds. No way in hell Terrence will do something like that and no way in hell it would be competitive.

García is a better fighter than Spence, if he can hurt him, he has chances, but if not, if the difference of power and strenght it's too much, Spence will K.O García.

Crawford is a more skilled boxer then Garcia and would have every advantage in skill if they fought and he would box circles around MIkey. Did you forget Mikey saying he did not prefer to fight Terance because of his "style of fighting"? That pretty much means that Mikey knows that Terance would out box him like he did in the amateurs. Crawford is not Floyd or Whitaker and he does not have to be that good to outbox MIkey like he would. And my point about Lipinets fight with MIkey is that Lipinets had very consistent success pressuring Mikey and absorbing his power punches and Lipinets is not half the fighter Spence is and this is not even mentioning that Spence is much stronger then Lipinets and is a murderous puncher at 147. Garcia is not a better fighter then Spence and this will be proven this weekend. Even if Garcia could hurt Spence, which I don't, Spence is good enough to make Garcia miss enough while returning accurate damaging blows that will eventually wear Garcia down. And if Garcia dares fight on the inside with SPence he is going to get massacred. Mikey is not winning this fight man.

[IKSRTFO]

Exactly. Garcia is an excellent boxer but oddly enough people have been overrating his boxing ability as if he has the legs and Defense of Terrance Crawford, or to an even more absurd degree like Floyds. Garcia has good defense but it is leaky and he can and has been touched by BIG shots throughout his career. In his last fight, Lipinets landed, left hooks to the head and body and overhand rights like it was out of fashion and despite being dropped lipinets was not deterred by mikeys punching power and continued to make mikey uncomfortable with his pressure. Lipinets is not half the boxer Spence is and does not have comparable power, and accuracy. Spence is also an excellent boxer and when he is not punishing mikey on the inside with his superior infighting skills he is gonna be using his angles, great balance, accuracy and timing to land bludgeoning blows on mikey, while also being able to step out the back door and escape any counter shots. Spence is also going to counter the hell out of mikeys jab right hand combination that he often over-commits with and that is what I think is going to end the fight, or be the beginning of the end for mikey.

And you are doing the same, talking about Crawford as if Terrence was Withaker or Floyd.


Crawford and García are in a very similar level, Mikey is a lighter fighter than him.


Gamboa outboxed Crawford in some rounds and landed on him big shots.

Benavídez landed on Crawford big counter shots too.

Loma took punishment against Salido and Salido forced him to fight in the inside, Linares knocked down him, Pedraza landed big hands too.

And?

Thats pretty normal, this is boxing.

Óscar was near to be k.o'ed by that italian guy.

Maidana landed a lot of Big punches on Floyd.


García has a very good defense, and look the face of Lipinets, he took punishment. And every training camp is different, García looks stronger this time.

And another thing.

García won a belt in 126 pounds.

There are 21 pounds of difference in this fight.

Thats like Crawford fighting against Canelo in 156 pounds. No way in hell Terrence will do something like that and no way in hell it would be competitive.

García is a better fighter than Spence, if he can hurt him, he has chances, but if not, if the difference of power and strenght it's too much, Spence will K.O García.

Crawford is a more skilled boxer then Garcia and would have every advantage in skill if they fought and he would box circles around MIkey. Did you forget Mikey saying he did not prefer to fight Terance because of his "style of fighting"? That pretty much means that Mikey knows that Terance would out box him like he did in the amateurs. Crawford is not Floyd or Whitaker and he does not have to be that good to outbox MIkey like he would. And my point about Lipinets fight with MIkey is that Lipinets had very consistent success pressuring Mikey and absorbing his power punches and Lipinets is not half the fighter Spence is and this is not even mentioning that Spence is much stronger then Lipinets and is a murderous puncher at 147. Garcia is not a better fighter then Spence and this will be proven this weekend. Even if Garcia could hurt Spence, which I don't, Spence is good enough to make Garcia miss enough while returning accurate damaging blows that will eventually wear Garcia down. And if Garcia dares fight on the inside with SPence he is going to get massacred. Mikey is not winning this fight man.

The fact that both Garcia and Pacquiao weren't keen on facing Crawford but both want to fight Spence says something.

[Thomastearns]

While I am working hard at it, I can’t see my way to picking Mikey, yet.

Mikey is a much better boxer than Lamont Peterson, who was built for Spence to do his thing on. I believe that Mikey saw something in the Peterson fight that he believes that he can exploit.

I am happy to see that others have noticed how Spence is almost cavalier about avoiding straight rights. He seems to believe that he can walk through anything. If Mikey is anything, he is precise. As I stated earlier, if Mikey clips Spence with something unseen early, this becomes much more than a test of wills that I believe the Texan relies heavily on.

Mikey has also been rather careless about getting hit during his career at lighter weights. I do not believe that he has ever respected anyone’s power under 140. That changes for this fight. Mikey believes that he can avoid Spence’s big shots. Meanwhile, I sincerely doubt that Errol is worried about Mikey’s power.

Spence is a decent boxer with huge strength and grit. Mikey is correct that he has a more developed skillset than Errol. But, this is not an amateur fight. The only way Mikey stands a chance is to prove himself to be the number 1 p4p fighter on this planet. He must do a Gene Tunney v Dempsey performance, or a Harry Greb v Tunney magic act.

Bottomline is that Spence wears him down Peterson like if Mikey cannot get his respect early on.

Good analysis. Garcia definitely wants to turn this into a battle of wills, the likes of which Spence is totally unfamiliar with.

But can he actually do it? Goes without saying that they're both great fighters already, but is this the battle for the p4p crown?

[Paci]

Going with Spence by decision. Can't see him knocking out Garcia with his tight defence.

Then again, do think it will be a close fight. Also fun to see that Garcia is taking a risk here.

Hope they get good paydays out of this.

[Best Coast]

Here's a great article with lots of specifics about the SNAC training program Garcia has been undergoing to get ready for Spence. If Mikey somehow manages to beat Spence then SNAC is going to get a big boost in their credibility and business!!

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... ought-take

"I'm probably going to be fighting a guy who will be outweighing me by about 12, [maybe] 16 pounds," Garcia said, "so I've got to be able to hold my own and be able to hold that size."

With this daunting task ahead of him, Garcia made a decision that dramatically altered his typical, more traditional approach to a fight. The 31-year-old wanted to take advantage of every tool at his disposal, and the allure of innovative science was too much for Garcia to resist.

With so much on the line, Mikey Garcia placed his confidence and his fate in the hands of Victor Conte.

"My first reaction was 12 pounds of muscle mass is a huge advantage," said Conte, recalling his immediate reaction. "In talking to Robert [Garcia Sr., Mikey's brother], he expressed that his dad [Eduardo] and others' initial reaction was they didn't want him to do this. They didn't think it was a good idea, either."

Just as he had convinced his family, Mikey quickly got Conte on board.

Some might frown upon working with a name that might seem radioactive in the world of sports, recalling Conte's role with the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative -- better known by the infamous acronym BALCO -- and the steroid issues attached to baseball, track and field and many other sports, but the fighting world sees Conte in a different light.

For his part, before getting involved in such a high-profile fight, Conte made it clear that there would have to be stringent drug testing. Over the past decade, Conte has been focused on supplements and cutting-edge technology, while encouraging the strictest of drug testing for anyone he works with......

Ahead of all of his previous fights, Garcia had always trained in a traditional fashion: early-morning jogs, hitting the gym in the late afternoon and then, as fight week approached, he cut down on food and liquid intake to make weight.

This time around, Garcia would kick off his fight prep with a far more modern approach that included intermittent hypoxic training. Hypoxic training simulates high-altitude conditions without the drawbacks of being in high-altitude climates, by creating an artificial atmosphere and utilizing manipulated oxygen levels. This style of training, first utilized by long-distance runners, causes the body to increase its production of red blood cells, which carry oxygen to the body.

During one particular training session at the SNAC gym, Garcia hit the heavy bag, something he has done thousands of time before in his life. This time, however, he did so while wearing a mask that was hooked up to a hypoxicator, which pumped air with a level of 14.5 percent oxygen into Garcia's system. Mike Bazzel, one of the staff trainers, explained that a normal level of oxygen at sea level is about 20.9 percent, with the mask simulating a much lower percentage, along the lines of what would exist at high altitude.

There's also a structure Conte calls "The SNAC Dome" -- a large bubble 18 feet in diameter and 12 feet in height. The structure has the ability to pump in an air mix as low as a 10 percent oxygen, which equates to around 20,000 feet elevation -- more than three times that of Big Bear Lake, the Southern California mountain town used as a training site by other fighters.

Inside Conte's dome, boxers like Garcia can work the mitts with their trainers, shadow box or do resistance training at these oxygen reduced levels, followed by intervals of recovery inside a smaller chamber with a 50 percent oxygen mix.

Oxygen manipulation is one part of the equation, to be sure, but another major element to Conte's training plan involves building up fast-twitch muscles in a way that ties closely into another sport he's long been associated with: track.

"The training that they have for me, right now, is very focused on the explosiveness, fast-twitch, just being able to react quickly from one direction to another," Garcia explained before an evening session. "It's very high-intensity training, which in turn strengthens those parts of the body, those muscles, joints and ligaments.

"That will help me once I get in the ring, because that's what boxing is," Garcia continued. "I've got to jump in and out quickly, be able to avoid a certain corner, or maybe dodge a punch or whatever. You've got to react to it quickly and you've got to be able to counterpunch quickly. So the stuff that we're doing is just going to help in that way."

[Ruthless-RKO]

An exciting night of undercard attractions will lead up to the first Premier Boxing Champions on FOX Sports Pay-Per-View event headlined by unbeaten welterweight world champion Errol Spence Jr. taking on undefeated four-division champion Mikey Garcia on Saturday, March 16 from AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

The action features 2016 Mexican Olympian Lindolfo Delgado (8-0, 8 KOs) looking to keep his perfect record intact against once-beaten Oklahoma-native James Roach (5-1, 5 KOs) in an eight-round super lightweight fight and undefeated Dallas-native Fernando Garcia (11-0, 6 KOs) taking on Colombia's Marlon Olea (14-4, 12 KOs) for eight rounds of super featherweight action.

Tickets for this showdown, which is promoted by TGB Promotions and Ringstar Sports, are on sale now, and can be purchased at SeatGeek.com, the Official Ticketing Provider of AT&T Stadium.

The undercard will also see a host of local talent from Texas as cruiserweight Burley Brooks makes his pro debut against Randy Mast (1-0) in a four-round bout, Dallas-native Amon Rashidi (5-0, 3 KOs) in a six-round welterweight fight against El Paso's Gabriel Gutierrez (5-7, 3 KOs), San Antonio's Jesse Rodriguez (8-0, 4 KOs)facing Rauf Aghayev (26-6, 11 KOs) in an eight-round bantamweight showdown, Mesquite's Adrian Taylor (8-1, 4 KOs)in a four-round cruiserweight attraction and San Antonio's Robert Rodriguez (2-0) in a four-round super flyweight fight against Fernando Ibarra.

Rounding out the show are Marsello Wilder (3-1, 2 KOs) facing Mark Sanchez (0-2) in a four-round cruiserweight fight, California's Luis Coria (10-2, 5 KOs) in a six-round featherweight bout against Mexico's Omar Garcia (6-7, 1 KO), Milwaukee's Thomas Hill (7-2, 1 KO) facing Christian Aguirre (8-4, 4 KOs) in a six-round super welterweight attraction, unbeaten Aaron Morales (5-0, 3 KOs) taking on Fernando Robles (2-0) for six-rounds of bantamweight action and Mexico's Jose Valenzuela (2-0) in a four-round super featherweight bout against Christian Velez (1-1, 1 KO).

[oogiebe]

I see Wilder's kid brother is having another go. He should really focus on his brother's photography or something.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I see Wilder's kid brother is having another go. He should really focus on his brother's photography or something.

Yehh fighting someone with no wins. Should be easy enough.

[oogiebe]

I see Wilder's kid brother is having another go. He should really focus on his brother's photography or something.

Yehh fighting someone with no wins. Should be easy enough.

He should really consider another line of work and stop kidding himself. He's no youngster if memory serves.

[Impractical Poster]

WAR Mikey!

[Ruthless-RKO]

Several notable fighters were asked for their opinions on the contest, and it was no surprise that almost all of them were backing Spence for victory.

The general feeling among most, is that Garcia is undersized and many expect Spence to overpower him in the fight.

WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder - Both of them are my guys, but I'm leaning a little bit more to Errol Spence. Although Mikey Garcia has the skill and will to win, I have to go with Spence.

Former two division champion Danny Garcia - Mikey is a good fighter, but I think he's biting off more than he can chew by going up two weight classes.

WBC junior middleweight champion Tony Harrison - Errol Spence is too big, too physical, it's just his time. I just think it's his time, he's floating high. No stoppage either way, but I think Errol gets the job done. He's too big and too strong.

Welterweight contender Yordenis Ugas - Spence has the same level of talent but he is much stronger and bigger.

WBA welterweight champion Keith Thurman - I love Mikey Garcia, I love everything that he brings into the ring. I definitely think that, in his experience in moving up in weight he's never really fought a true welterweight and he doesn't really know what it means to compete with the upper echelon level at 147. I think he's going to run into a brick wall named Errol Spence Jr.

[Thomastearns]

Here's a great article with lots of specifics about the SNAC training program Garcia has been undergoing to get ready for Spence. If Mikey somehow manages to beat Spence then SNAC is going to get a big boost in their credibility and business!!

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... ought-take

"I'm probably going to be fighting a guy who will be outweighing me by about 12, [maybe] 16 pounds," Garcia said, "so I've got to be able to hold my own and be able to hold that size."

With this daunting task ahead of him, Garcia made a decision that dramatically altered his typical, more traditional approach to a fight. The 31-year-old wanted to take advantage of every tool at his disposal, and the allure of innovative science was too much for Garcia to resist.

With so much on the line, Mikey Garcia placed his confidence and his fate in the hands of Victor Conte.

"My first reaction was 12 pounds of muscle mass is a huge advantage," said Conte, recalling his immediate reaction. "In talking to Robert [Garcia Sr., Mikey's brother], he expressed that his dad [Eduardo] and others' initial reaction was they didn't want him to do this. They didn't think it was a good idea, either."

Just as he had convinced his family, Mikey quickly got Conte on board.

Some might frown upon working with a name that might seem radioactive in the world of sports, recalling Conte's role with the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative -- better known by the infamous acronym BALCO -- and the steroid issues attached to baseball, track and field and many other sports, but the fighting world sees Conte in a different light.

For his part, before getting involved in such a high-profile fight, Conte made it clear that there would have to be stringent drug testing. Over the past decade, Conte has been focused on supplements and cutting-edge technology, while encouraging the strictest of drug testing for anyone he works with......

Ahead of all of his previous fights, Garcia had always trained in a traditional fashion: early-morning jogs, hitting the gym in the late afternoon and then, as fight week approached, he cut down on food and liquid intake to make weight.

This time around, Garcia would kick off his fight prep with a far more modern approach that included intermittent hypoxic training. Hypoxic training simulates high-altitude conditions without the drawbacks of being in high-altitude climates, by creating an artificial atmosphere and utilizing manipulated oxygen levels. This style of training, first utilized by long-distance runners, causes the body to increase its production of red blood cells, which carry oxygen to the body.

During one particular training session at the SNAC gym, Garcia hit the heavy bag, something he has done thousands of time before in his life. This time, however, he did so while wearing a mask that was hooked up to a hypoxicator, which pumped air with a level of 14.5 percent oxygen into Garcia's system. Mike Bazzel, one of the staff trainers, explained that a normal level of oxygen at sea level is about 20.9 percent, with the mask simulating a much lower percentage, along the lines of what would exist at high altitude.

There's also a structure Conte calls "The SNAC Dome" -- a large bubble 18 feet in diameter and 12 feet in height. The structure has the ability to pump in an air mix as low as a 10 percent oxygen, which equates to around 20,000 feet elevation -- more than three times that of Big Bear Lake, the Southern California mountain town used as a training site by other fighters.

Inside Conte's dome, boxers like Garcia can work the mitts with their trainers, shadow box or do resistance training at these oxygen reduced levels, followed by intervals of recovery inside a smaller chamber with a 50 percent oxygen mix.

Oxygen manipulation is one part of the equation, to be sure, but another major element to Conte's training plan involves building up fast-twitch muscles in a way that ties closely into another sport he's long been associated with: track.

"The training that they have for me, right now, is very focused on the explosiveness, fast-twitch, just being able to react quickly from one direction to another," Garcia explained before an evening session. "It's very high-intensity training, which in turn strengthens those parts of the body, those muscles, joints and ligaments.

"That will help me once I get in the ring, because that's what boxing is," Garcia continued. "I've got to jump in and out quickly, be able to avoid a certain corner, or maybe dodge a punch or whatever. You've got to react to it quickly and you've got to be able to counterpunch quickly. So the stuff that we're doing is just going to help in that way."

It's great to see Garcia focussing on the need for speed - usually the best chance for the smaller fighter. I'm guessing there's a lot more he didn't talk about - borderline legal supplements for example.

Garcia will need all the help he can get because it won't just be his family members who think it's not a good idea giving away this much weight to a fighter of Spence's class.

Even with the kind of confidence that a record of 39 - 0 gives you this is still a huge challenge coming up for Mikey Garcia.

[Enlightened-One]

It's great to see Garcia focussing on the need for speed... I'm guessing there's a lot more he didn't talk about - borderline legal supplements for example.

What is “a borderline legal supplement?”

I thought something was either legal or it wasn’t, so I’m hoping you can provide an example of what you deem to be “a borderline legal supplement".

[Ruthless-RKO]

Media workout!!

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Ruthless-RKO]

Today, FOX Sports announces an all-star team of broadcasters highlighting the first-ever FOX SPORTS PREMIER BOXING CHAMPIONS PAY-PER-VIEW: ERROL SPENCE JR. VS. MIKEY GARCIA. Current WBC Welterweight World Champion Shawn Porter, fresh off his victory live on FOX last Saturday, joins International Boxing Hall of Famer Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini and undisputed three-time heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis, adding insights and analysis. Porter and Mancini will join hosts Emmy Award-winning broadcaster ChrisMyers and veteran broadcaster Kate Abdo live on FOX Sports' desk for fight programming from Wednesday, March 13 through Saturday, March 16.

Calling the action live on Saturday, March 16 (9:00 PM ET) on Pay-Per-View and streaming on the FOX Sports digital platforms are Lewis, legendary trainer Joe Goossen and Emmy Award-nominee Kenny Albert from AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. Veteran combat sports journalist Heidi Androl reports and interviews fighters, while International Boxing Hall of Famer Jimmy Lennon Jr. serves as ring announcer. Marcos Villegas is the unofficial scorer. On FOX Deportes, current WBA Featherweight Champion Leo Santa Cruz joins Erik "El Terrible" Morales, Adrian Garcia Marquez, Jessi Losada and Jaime Motta to call the fights in Spanish.

[sturm vogel]

In fewer words: Mikey can fight inside Spence's closet and smother Spence's power. Doesn't mean he'll win but he won't get hurt and will go 12. Spence is no track star, he'll invite Mikey in,.

[Impractical Poster]

It's great to see Garcia focussing on the need for speed... I'm guessing there's a lot more he didn't talk about - borderline legal supplements for example.

What is “a borderline legal supplement?”

Where they make legal supplements in the same room as peds.

[IKSRTFO]

It's great to see Garcia focussing on the need for speed... I'm guessing there's a lot more he didn't talk about - borderline legal supplements for example.

What is “a borderline legal supplement?”

Where they make legal supplements in the same room as peds.

Like GNC?
Lord forbid Mikey buys some Whey protein in the same store that serves banned. supplements

[caldo2025]

I’m all over the place with this fight. I’m finding it way too easy to go with ESJR. Common sense says that he’s the most probable winner but this fight happened bc Mikey called him out. He obviously sees something that he could exploit. Mikey’s Mexican and they are born with granite chins. So there’s no way there’s s stoppage aside of cuts or something silly. Btw, we’ve seen ESJR take some nasty punches as well and I don’t believe he’s ever been visibly buzzed. Both guys have great chins and heart. It’s going the distance.

I have a really bad feeling that we may be looking at a horrible decision here. Just a feeling but Mikey has always recieved favorable scores IMO. Now, in a fight that no one gives him a chance to win, he may benefit on scorecards in the close rounds tougher to score. I see dead people.

[jamamb]

spence was obviously hurt in one fight by a ghanan guy

i dont buy this stuff that mikey calling for the fight is a reason for mikey winning. remember spence accepted the fight too. a lot of overthinking from ppl here imo. mikey is unlikely to have this absolute mastermind plan that only his team can see. spence is too good to be losing this to a guy mikeys size.

[IKSRTFO]

I’m all over the place with this fight. I’m finding it way too easy to go with ESJR. Common sense says that he’s the most probable winner but this fight happened bc Mikey called him out. He obviously sees something that he could exploit. Mikey’s Mexican and they are born with granite chins. So there’s no way there’s s stoppage aside of cuts or something silly. Btw, we’ve seen ESJR take some nasty punches as well and I don’t believe he’s ever been visibly buzzed. Both guys have great chins and heart. It’s going the distance.

I have a really bad feeling that we may be looking at a horrible decision here. Just a feeling but Mikey has always recieved favorable scores IMO. Now, in a fight that no one gives him a chance to win, he may benefit on scorecards in the close rounds tougher to score. I see dead people.

This is an interesting fight primarily because we can speculate, but there are still open questions about both of them. Neither of them have any gift decisions nor struggled badly in a fight. However, neither of them have fought the best fighter around them neither. If Garcia had fought Loma and Crawford or Spence fought Crawford, Thurman, or dabbled at 154, we would know more about what each guy really can do.