Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

Who wins?

Poll ended at 17 Mar 2019, 02:06

Spence - Decision
27
25%
Spence - K/TKO
51
47%
DRAW
5
5%
Garcia - K/TKO
5
5%
Garcia - Decision
21
19%
 
Total votes: 109

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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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...o0O{are we really comparing Duran/Hagler to Garcia/Spence?} :o
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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ya but no one is saying there on the same level as fighters, just about size and a guy coming up to be competitive with a naturally bigger man
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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jamamb wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:42 ya but no one is saying there on the same level as fighters, just about size and a guy coming up to be competitive with a naturally bigger man
Yeah, that seems the most obvious comparisons. Garcia is the better all around fighter at this point imho. The closer the fight gets, the more uncertain I'm getting. I've posted before that Garcia is too smart to walk into a slaughter. I'm 50/50 at this point.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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Thomastearns wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:37 To get up there with the likes of Duran both Garcia and Spence will need to demonstrate similar levels of being at home inside a boxing ring that Duran often displayed.

I don't think he was remotely scared of anyone he faced.
No said that either of them were on the level of Duran. All I said was this fight could play out like Hagler Duran. We all know Garcia isn't on the level of Duran but Spence isn't on the level of Hagler .
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:40 ...o0O{are we really comparing Duran/Hagler to Garcia/Spence?} :o
No, we're saying this fight could play out like Hagler Duran where everyone assumed Hagler was too big for him.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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IKSRTFO wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:49
oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:40 ...o0O{are we really comparing Duran/Hagler to Garcia/Spence?} :o
No, we're saying this fight could play out like Hagler Duran where everyone assumed Hagler was too big for him.
Ahhh...I see...ok! :OhYes:
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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Thomastearns wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:37 To get up there with the likes of Duran both Garcia and Spence will need to demonstrate similar levels of being at home inside a boxing ring that Duran often displayed.

I don't think he was remotely scared of anyone he faced.
Scared? No.

But the story has always been that he was leery of Hearns.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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SenorPipino wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 17:31
Thomastearns wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:37 To get up there with the likes of Duran both Garcia and Spence will need to demonstrate similar levels of being at home inside a boxing ring that Duran often displayed.

I don't think he was remotely scared of anyone he faced.
Scared? No.

But the story has always been that he was leery of Hearns.
The look on his face shortly into the first round shows a guy who is like, "shvt! What the hell am I supposed to do now?!"
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 17:48
SenorPipino wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 17:31
Thomastearns wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:37 To get up there with the likes of Duran both Garcia and Spence will need to demonstrate similar levels of being at home inside a boxing ring that Duran often displayed.

I don't think he was remotely scared of anyone he faced.
Scared? No.

But the story has always been that he was leery of Hearns.
The look on his face shortly into the first round shows a guy who is like, "shvt! What the hell am I supposed to do now?!"
Yeah, by then Duran may have been a bit scared.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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SenorPipino wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 17:51
oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 17:48
SenorPipino wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 17:31
Thomastearns wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:37 To get up there with the likes of Duran both Garcia and Spence will need to demonstrate similar levels of being at home inside a boxing ring that Duran often displayed.

I don't think he was remotely scared of anyone he faced.
Scared? No.

But the story has always been that he was leery of Hearns.
The look on his face shortly into the first round shows a guy who is like, "shvt! What the hell am I supposed to do now?!"
Yeah, by then Duran may have been a bit scared.
Thanks for reminding me...one of my ALL-TIME favorite fights!!
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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Best Coast wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 18:24
SenorPipino wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 17:51
oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 17:48
SenorPipino wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 17:31
Thomastearns wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:37 To get up there with the likes of Duran both Garcia and Spence will need to demonstrate similar levels of being at home inside a boxing ring that Duran often displayed.

I don't think he was remotely scared of anyone he faced.
Scared? No.

But the story has always been that he was leery of Hearns.
The look on his face shortly into the first round shows a guy who is like, "shvt! What the hell am I supposed to do now?!"
Yeah, by then Duran may have been a bit scared.
Thanks for reminding me...one of my ALL-TIME favorite fights!!

All time favorite?

Must be a big Hearn's fan.

Or a big Duran detractor.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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Maybe a small comparison would be pac vs Oscar?
Though Oscar wasn't in his prime like Spence is there are similarities..
Alot of people still thought that was to big a hill to climb for PAC who was a multi division lower weight champ as is Mikey...

Now can we get back on topic instead of discussing the above fight?!?!...... Please?

Lol
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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Duran1970 wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 21:03 Maybe a small comparison would be pac vs Oscar?
Though Oscar wasn't in his prime like Spence is there are similarities..
Alot of people still thought that was to big a hill to climb for PAC who was a multi division lower weight champ as is Mikey...

Now can we get back on topic instead of discussing the above fight?!?!...... Please?

Lol
Just one last thing about that.

Another difference was that Oscar-Pac was fought at a catchweight.

Oscar had been fighting at super welter and agreed to 147. He actually weighed in at 145.

We don't know if that weight cut affected De La Hoya. It usually does with older fighters.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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SenorPipino wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 21:45
Duran1970 wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 21:03 Maybe a small comparison would be pac vs Oscar?
Though Oscar wasn't in his prime like Spence is there are similarities..
Alot of people still thought that was to big a hill to climb for PAC who was a multi division lower weight champ as is Mikey...

Now can we get back on topic instead of discussing the above fight?!?!...... Please?

Lol
Just one last thing about that.

Another difference was that Oscar-Pac was fought at a catchweight.

Oscar had been fighting at super welter and agreed to 147. He actually weighed in at 145.

We don't know if that weight cut affected De La Hoya. It usually does with older fighters.

Spence won't be drained, but he does have a rehydration clause.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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What's the rehydration limit?
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 22:01 What's the rehydration limit?
IBF’s standard 10 pound next morning.

Spence said he could enter the ring at 160 no more than that. And Garcia said he’ll enter at what he usually walks around, which is 150..
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 22:01 What's the rehydration limit?
10lb with the IBF so 156 then naturally Spence would put on another 3/4 lb from 9am till first bell
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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SenorPipino wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 17:31
Thomastearns wrote: 14 Mar 2019, 14:37 To get up there with the likes of Duran both Garcia and Spence will need to demonstrate similar levels of being at home inside a boxing ring that Duran often displayed.

I don't think he was remotely scared of anyone he faced.
Scared? No.

But the story has always been that he was leery of Hearns.
At the weigh in Duran told Tommy he was going to kill him and hearns said you're going down in 2.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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Mikey can make a fight of it and I don’t consider it impossible for him to defy the betting odds to upset Spence Jr. I sincerely believe that this will be a competitive fight for the first six rounds or so.

However, Errol’s superior size and strength will begin to tell midway through the bout, wearing down and taking its toll on Garcia during the championship rounds, resulting in Spence Jr. emerging victorious either by late stoppage or by decision.

My “head” expects Spence Jr. to win, but my “heart” would prefer the underdog to score the upset, which means I’d overjoyed about being proven wrong about my prediction.

If Mikey Garcia proves most of us wrong this weekend, to capture another world title in his fifth weight class, then there’d be a decent argument for him being rated amongst the top-three pound-for-pound fighters.

Whereas a victory for Spence Jr. would greatly improve his resume and go a long way to justifying all the hype and accolades that have bestowed upon him prematurely, since he’s only ever previously faced two top-ten 147lb-ers (Brook & Peterson).
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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Just have verlichte pick Garcia and one of your other accounts call a draw. Cover all the bases.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Mar 2019, 10:52 Just have verlichte pick Garcia and one of your other accounts call a draw. Cover all the bases.
You beat me to the punch... :bag:
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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I keep picturing in my head Mikey being razor sharp and darting in and out - what might get Mikey is the punch accumulation from Spence Jr

can't wait for Saturday !
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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kbackup408 wrote: 15 Mar 2019, 11:53 I keep picturing in my head Mikey being razor sharp and darting in and out - what might get Mikey is the punch accumulation from Spence Jr

can't wait for Saturday !
x2
This fight gets the imagination going.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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squiggy wrote: 15 Mar 2019, 12:09
kbackup408 wrote: 15 Mar 2019, 11:53 I keep picturing in my head Mikey being razor sharp and darting in and out - what might get Mikey is the punch accumulation from Spence Jr

can't wait for Saturday !
x2
This fight gets the imagination going.
agreed sir, saturday is a glorious day so much tasty action mma + boxing
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Mikey Garcia - March 16, 2019

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i hate to be a downer (not really) but i just cant see anything other then spence breaking him down. its one thing for mikey to move up vs a b level welter but not only is spence big and strong but hes very good too
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