Who will be the next HW champion ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 22 Mar 2019, 13:11

I have not mentioned Tyson Fury, he has been the champion.
What do you think who will be the next champion (dethrone Joshua or Wilder) excluding Fury ?

jamamb · Post by **jamamb** » 22 Mar 2019, 13:18

maybe someone playing the long game, i feel fury/wilder/aj are a lot better then the others out there aside from maybe usyk, and we have to see how he is at hw.

lillywhite14 · Post by **lillywhite14** » 22 Mar 2019, 13:29

None of them. I think Joshua beats them all.

Contendeh · Post by **Contendeh** » 22 Mar 2019, 14:10

Tom Schwarz!

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 22 Mar 2019, 14:20

Contendeh wrote: ↑22 Mar 2019, 14:10 Tom Schwarz!

Boxtune · Post by **Boxtune** » 22 Mar 2019, 14:23

Crap poll

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 22 Mar 2019, 14:27

Boxtune wrote: ↑22 Mar 2019, 14:23 Crap poll

Truly.

brilo33 · Post by **brilo33** » 23 Mar 2019, 21:36

Dubois, but fury is champ and will be again

Best Coast · Post by **Best Coast** » 24 Mar 2019, 00:31

oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Mar 2019, 14:20
Contendeh wrote: ↑22 Mar 2019, 14:10 Tom Schwarz!

SenorPipino · Post by **SenorPipino** » 24 Mar 2019, 09:33

Best Coast wrote: ↑24 Mar 2019, 00:31
oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Mar 2019, 14:20
Contendeh wrote: ↑22 Mar 2019, 14:10 Tom Schwarz!

If you listened to the talking shills on ESPN extol the skills of Schwarz last night, you would be almost certain that he's the next great heavyweight champ.

candyslim · Post by **candyslim** » 26 Mar 2019, 14:23

Someone will beat Joshua someday but I don't think it's going to be any of those guys.

KiwiRider · Post by **KiwiRider** » 26 Mar 2019, 14:28

candyslim wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 14:23 Someone will beat Joshua someday but I don't think it's going to be any of those guys.

True, or not in the next few years at least. Wilder, on the other hand, is more beatable, but will they let him take another risk? He was in all sorts of trouble with Ortiz and lost a points decision against a fairly rusty Fury.

candyslim · Post by **candyslim** » 26 Mar 2019, 14:33

Maybe ... If they can persuade Lennox to make a come-back

Ilya Muromets · Post by **Ilya Muromets** » 27 Mar 2019, 11:37

Why isn't Pulev on your list? Anyway, I pick Usyk.

Ilya Muromets · Post by **Ilya Muromets** » 27 Mar 2019, 11:39

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 14:28
candyslim wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 14:23 Someone will beat Joshua someday but I don't think it's going to be any of those guys.
True, or not in the next few years at least. Wilder, on the other hand, is more beatable, but will they let him take another risk? He was in all sorts of trouble with Ortiz and lost a points decision against a fairly rusty Fury.

He was in so much trouble against Ortiz that they had to have their phony referee and ring doctor stop the fight to "examine" him.

SenorPipino · Post by **SenorPipino** » 27 Mar 2019, 12:22

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 11:39
KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 14:28
candyslim wrote: ↑26 Mar 2019, 14:23 Someone will beat Joshua someday but I don't think it's going to be any of those guys.
True, or not in the next few years at least. Wilder, on the other hand, is more beatable, but will they let him take another risk? He was in all sorts of trouble with Ortiz and lost a points decision against a fairly rusty Fury.

He was in so much trouble against Ortiz that they had to have their phony referee and ring doctor stop the fight to "examine" him.

Phony.

Are you claiming that they were unlicensed?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 27 Mar 2019, 12:57

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 11:37 Why isn't Pulev on your list? Anyway, I pick Usyk.

Simply, I can not imagine Pulev winning against Joshua or Wilder. I can not forget how Wlad had destroyed him.

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 27 Mar 2019, 13:11

ValMar wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 12:57
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 11:37 Why isn't Pulev on your list? Anyway, I pick Usyk.
Simply, I can not imagine Pulev winning against Joshua or Wilder. I can not forget how Wlad had destroyed him.

I have not put Povetkin on this list, too. Joshua and Wilder are too much for him, although I think he would defeat at least six mentioned fighters on the list.

Ilya Muromets · Post by **Ilya Muromets** » 27 Mar 2019, 19:01

ValMar wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 12:57
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 11:37 Why isn't Pulev on your list? Anyway, I pick Usyk.
Simply, I can not imagine Pulev winning against Joshua or Wilder. I can not forget how Wlad had destroyed him.

Peak Wlad destroyed everybody. Povetkin and Pulev aren't on your list but look who is. No, my friend, it is a silly list.

Lackeos · Post by **Lackeos** » 28 Mar 2019, 02:16

Hughie is still only 23, and it's kind of amazing that a fighter that young fared that well against Pulev and Parker. If he's not done improve, then he could be a monster one day.

Dubois seems pretty far out to be the next guy in line to hold a belt. But he's super young and has the look of a killer. He could likely be a champ in 5-8 years; but in order to be the correct choice in the poll, he requires that no one else emerges as champ sooner than that.

Not sure if Usyk will actually be more successful at HW than Pulev and Povetkin were. But he seems to be a small number of fights away from having a really good chance at a belt. Plus, as an undisputed CW champ, the sanctioning bodies will probably open doors for him to get a shot.

Hrgovic and Ajagba are some of the leaders of the current class of prospects. I think either one has the ability to beat a top 20 opponent soon and a top 10 opponent in a year or two. They have a good chance of being world class fighters in about 2.5 - 3 years.

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 28 Mar 2019, 12:44

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 19:01
ValMar wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 12:57
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 11:37 Why isn't Pulev on your list? Anyway, I pick Usyk.
Simply, I can not imagine Pulev winning against Joshua or Wilder. I can not forget how Wlad had destroyed him.

Peak Wlad destroyed everybody. Povetkin and Pulev aren't on your list but look who is. No, my friend, it is a silly list.

A silly list ? It might be, but I wouldn't like to me misunderstood. This is not the list of the best HWs, and, yes, Pulev and Povetkin (even Hughie Fury, Chisora and Kabayal might be) are better than a half of mentioned boxers.
Anyway, I can not imagine Pulev or Povetkin defeating Joshua or Wilder. Simply, I can not imagine this.

I can imagine Rivas, Mak or Ajagba winning against Joshua or Wilder (at least all of them are capable for a lucky punch).

Ilya Muromets · Post by **Ilya Muromets** » 28 Mar 2019, 13:20

ValMar wrote: ↑28 Mar 2019, 12:44
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 19:01
ValMar wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 12:57
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 11:37 Why isn't Pulev on your list? Anyway, I pick Usyk.
Simply, I can not imagine Pulev winning against Joshua or Wilder. I can not forget how Wlad had destroyed him.

Peak Wlad destroyed everybody. Povetkin and Pulev aren't on your list but look who is. No, my friend, it is a silly list.
A silly list ? It might be, but I wouldn't like to me misunderstood. This is not the list of the best HWs, and, yes, Pulev and Povetkin (even Hughie Fury, Chisora and Kabayal might be) are better than a half of mentioned boxers.
Anyway, I can not imagine Pulev or Povetkin defeating Joshua or Wilder. Simply, I can not imagine this.

I can imagine Rivas, Mak or Ajagba winning against Joshua or Wilder (at least all of them are capable for a lucky punch).

OK I got it. So you've got some B guys with a big punch that would have a puncher's chance.

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 28 Mar 2019, 13:24

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑28 Mar 2019, 13:20
ValMar wrote: ↑28 Mar 2019, 12:44
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 19:01
ValMar wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 12:57
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑27 Mar 2019, 11:37 Why isn't Pulev on your list? Anyway, I pick Usyk.
Simply, I can not imagine Pulev winning against Joshua or Wilder. I can not forget how Wlad had destroyed him.

Peak Wlad destroyed everybody. Povetkin and Pulev aren't on your list but look who is. No, my friend, it is a silly list.
A silly list ? It might be, but I wouldn't like to me misunderstood. This is not the list of the best HWs, and, yes, Pulev and Povetkin (even Hughie Fury, Chisora and Kabayal might be) are better than a half of mentioned boxers.
Anyway, I can not imagine Pulev or Povetkin defeating Joshua or Wilder. Simply, I can not imagine this.

I can imagine Rivas, Mak or Ajagba winning against Joshua or Wilder (at least all of them are capable for a lucky punch).

OK I got it. So you've got some B guys with a big punch that would have a puncher's chance.

Yes, but I hope (and believe) that these B guys will become A/A+ very soon. At least - some of them.

HeavyHitters · Post by **HeavyHitters** » 28 Mar 2019, 16:51

I chose "other", because whoever gets Manuel Charr next will become the next heavyweight champion.

Or... Whoever wins if Charr is stripped of his "bogus" title and two contenders are chosen to fight for the vacant belt.

oogiebe · Post by **oogiebe** » 28 Mar 2019, 16:53

HeavyHitters wrote: ↑28 Mar 2019, 16:51 I chose "other", because whoever gets Manuel Charr next will become the next heavyweight champion.

Good answer!