Kubrat Pulev... #MeToo

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If Pulev had kissed a male reporter on the lips the American media wouldn't be wouldn't be able to praise him enough. He'd be their new Gillette MeToo superhero, even more heroic than Bruce Jenner. The google search engine would lead to hundreds of articles about how Pulev is fighting "toxic masculinity".
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 27 Mar 2019, 11:32
greg wrote: 27 Mar 2019, 10:35 ..didn't she say "All RIGHT, THANK YOU" to Pulev after he had "sexually assaulted" her? :doh: ..doesn't it make the whole discussion sort of redundant?.. :maybe:


Not only that but she attended the post fight party. She was a friend of his.

The outrage of the American Gillette Metoo crowd is so funny and pathetic. Soon they'll make it a felony to even look at a girl. If he had kissed a guy on the lips they would have said he was a liberated man and a breath of fresh air in the heavyweight division and a progressive role model!

Anyway, he's gone from obscurity - except for us boxing fans - to fame. Good for him. Go Bulgaria!
Yeh. Maybe his next fight will attract more viewers.
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 28 Mar 2019, 13:17 If Pulev had kissed a male reporter on the lips the American media wouldn't be wouldn't be able to praise him enough. He'd be their new Gillette MeToo superhero, even more heroic than Bruce Jenner. The google search engine would lead to hundreds of articles about how Pulev is fighting "toxic masculinity".
I'm sorry, but that's a bunch of BS.

Kevin Spacey is in serious trouble. I know there is no comparison between a (perhaps) unwanted kiss of an adult and child molestion but my point is Pulev would have been rebuked if it had been a male reporter as well.

An no this is not a big story in the US.
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Tony1244 wrote: 28 Mar 2019, 16:37
Ilya Muromets wrote: 28 Mar 2019, 13:17 If Pulev had kissed a male reporter on the lips the American media wouldn't be wouldn't be able to praise him enough. He'd be their new Gillette MeToo superhero, even more heroic than Bruce Jenner. The google search engine would lead to hundreds of articles about how Pulev is fighting "toxic masculinity".
I'm sorry, but that's a bunch of BS.

Kevin Spacey is in serious trouble. I know there is no comparison between a (perhaps) unwanted kiss of an adult and child molestion but my point is Pulev would have been rebuked if it had been a male reporter as well.

An no this is not a big story in the US.
It's a very non-story in America.
Only the boxing sites are covering it.
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 28 Mar 2019, 13:17 If Pulev had kissed a male reporter on the lips the American media wouldn't be wouldn't be able to praise him enough. He'd be their new Gillette MeToo superhero, even more heroic than Bruce Jenner. The google search engine would lead to hundreds of articles about how Pulev is fighting "toxic masculinity".

You see, gender has nothing to do with it. If he kissed a guy and the guy didn't consented he could've sued the crap out of him too. She probably wanted the kiss and everyone made a big deal out of this but the fact is that on the video it appears that she is just a reporter doing her job (not in a very professional way but still) and he just decides to kiss her without thinking that maybe she won't consent. Now everybody is talking how a kiss is not a crime and on and on. They could've made a video of themselves making babies in the hotel room after the fight and nobody would've given a damn because that would've implied consent. It's all about consent. In the video appears as if he is kissing a random woman. That IS sexual harassment. Now, she is suing him. I choose to believe him but he will have to make the judge to believe him.
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Allred held a press conference with Ravalo in Los Angeles, where she gave her side of the story.

She told the media that she was "immediately shocked and embarrassed" after Pulev kissed her and "didn't know how to respond".

She also claimed that the boxer had sexually assaulted her off camera, grabbing both of her buttocks and squeezing with both of his hands.

"I started the interview and mid-interview he grabbed my face and kissed me. I was immediately shocked, embarrassed and I didn’t know how to respond. Next I walked to a table to put my items into a backpack. He grabbed both of my buttocks and squeezed with both of his hands. Then he walked away without saying anything to me and laughed," Ravalo said. "It made me feel uncomfortable and frustrated that Kubrat Pulev would treat me in such an unprofessional manner.

"I did not encourage or consent to Mr Pulev kissing me or grabbing my backside. I was there at the event covering the boxing match as a professional member of the press".

Ravalo also denied being friends with Pulev and called the behavior as "not acceptable." She says she contacted Allred in order to "impose consequences on Mr Pulev for what he did to me".

"A man should ask a woman before he kisses her. That did not happen in this encounter with Mr Pulev and that is why I'm speaking out today," Ravalo said.

"Later that night a friend invited me to an after party. There was an opportunity to interview more fighters and so I decided to go. Mr Pulev did not join until the very end of the night. He acted like nothing happened, but at the end of the party, he asked me to remove the kiss from the interview.

"I did not remove it, but I posted it, because I wanted people to see what he had done to me. I wanted him to be accountable. I did not want him to get away with it. What he did to me was disgusting. I felt humiliated and no woman should be treated this way. Mr Pulev and I were not friends, and were not in a romantic relationship. He had no right to kiss me."
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Pulev needs to get back to Bulgaria.

Goes to US and does this?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Mar 2019, 19:08 Pulev needs to get back to Bulgaria.

Goes to US and does this?

Ha ha go Bulgaria! What phony hypocrites these American girly men and man-women are! I remember when Mike Tyson shouted out to female reporter, "I'll answer your question if you give me a blow job!". Did any of them - you! - make a peep about that? Hell no they just brushed it under the rug, ignored it.

Big deal, Pulev kissed an ugly woman and you can see how happy she looked too. It was hardly like she looked horrified and said ugh and started spitting. Now the feminist lawyers and the gillette crowd have latched on to her and they're making up stories about her ass getting groped, and next they'll have Pulev raping her in the parking lot! He probably just impulsively kissed her because he was high and elated following his rather amazing victory, because pretty much everyone thought the fight would be stopped because of that very bad cut. Biggest thrill she ever got, but now they smell $$$, getting Pulev's winnings from him! GO BULGARIA!!!
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Ilya Muromets wrote: 28 Mar 2019, 22:11
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Mar 2019, 19:08 Pulev needs to get back to Bulgaria.

Goes to US and does this?

Ha ha go Bulgaria! What phony hypocrites these American girly men and man-women are! I remember when Mike Tyson shouted out to female reporter, "I'll answer your question if you give me a blow job!". Did any of them - you! - make a peep about that? Hell no they just brushed it under the rug, ignored it.

Big deal, Pulev kissed an ugly woman and you can see how happy she looked too. It was hardly like she looked horrified and said ugh and started spitting. Now the feminist lawyers and the gillette crowd have latched on to her and they're making up stories about her ass getting groped, and next they'll have Pulev raping her in the parking lot! He probably just impulsively kissed her because he was high and elated following his rather amazing victory, because pretty much everyone thought the fight would be stopped because of that very bad cut. Biggest thrill she ever got, but now they smell $$$, getting Pulev's winnings from him! GO BULGARIA!!!
Completely different time compared to when and what Tyson did.

No I seriously doubt this was the biggest thrill she ever got.

Yes she smells money and she will get it.

Totally classless on Pulev's part.
He will be fined and suspended I'm sure
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If Pulev wanted exposure there are other ways. Lool
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If Trump see this ...

He bild a Wall around Bulgaria :OhYes:
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The way some folk are harping on about this is ridiculous :doh: :lol: was it a backward thing to do?yes. Should he have known better?yes. But it's a massive overreaction from some people

This woman is after money now,that's why she contacted who she did & not the police.....

The way some people are going on you'd think he ripped her shirt off her,took her bra off & started groping her all over
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Oiky wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 07:01 The way some folk are harping on about this is ridiculous :doh: :lol: was it a backward thing to do?yes. Should he have known better?yes. But it's a massive overreaction from some people

This woman is after money now,that's why she contacted who she did & not the police.....

The way some people are going on you'd think he ripped her shirt off her,took her bra off & started groping her all over
Also now added the fact that he groped her ass.. Probably made that up.

She has on camera that he kissed her, so it will be on her side, if he could do that on camera, what would he do off camera..
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"Kubrat Pulev: Heavyweight boxer given California suspension after kissing female reporter"

Boxing chiefs in California have suspended Bulgarian heavyweight Kubrat Pulev's licence after he "forcibly" kissed a female reporter on the lips during an interview.

Footage emerged of Pulev embracing Vegas Sports Daily's Jennifer Ravalo when asked about fighting Tyson Fury.

Pulev, 37, claimed the pair were friends, but Ravalo said she had only met the boxer a day earlier.

Ravalo's lawyer Gloria Allred said his actions were "unwelcome and unlawful".

The heavyweight has been ordered to appear in front of the California State Athletic Commission (Csac), who said they "take this incident seriously".

Csac added: "Before he will be licensed to fight in California again, boxer Kubrat Pulev must appear in front of the commission and demonstrate that he will conform to this principle of respect."

The incident happened after Pulev defeated Romania's Bogdan Dinu in Costa Mesa, California on Saturday.

In a statement read out by Allred at a news conference, Ravalo said that what Pulev did was "disgusting" and left her "humiliated".

Ravalo, who works under the name Jenny SuShe, said: "Mid-interview he grabbed my face and kissed me. I was immediately shocked and embarrassed, and didn't know how to respond.

"Next, I walked to the table to put my items in my backpack. He grabbed both of my buttocks and squeezed with both of his hands. Then he walked away without saying anything to me and laughed.

"It made me feel uncomfortable and frustrated that Kubrat Pulev would treat me in such an unprofessional manner. I did not encourage or consent to Mr Pulev grabbing my face, kissing me, or grabbing my backside.

"I was there at the event covering the boxing match as a professional member of the press. Kissing a woman on her lips without her consent and grabbing her is not acceptable."

She added: "No woman should be treated this way."

"Before he will be licensed to fight in California again, boxer Kubrat Pulev must appear in front of the commission and demonstrate that he will conform to this principle of respect."

In a statement posted on Twitter on Monday, Pulev had said: "Jenny is actually a friend of mine, and after the interview, I was so elated, I gave her a kiss.

"Later that night, she joined me and my other friends at my post-fight celebration.

"On the video, after our kiss, we both laughed about it and thanked each other. There really is nothing more to this."

Ravalo said she was invited to a party after the fight where "there was an opportunity to interview more fighters". She said Pulev "did not join until the very end of the night".

While there, she claims Pulev "acted like nothing happened". She said he later asked her "to remove the kiss from the interview" - a request she denied.

"I did not remove it and instead posted it because I wanted people to see what he had done to me. I wanted him to be accountable," she added.

Ravalo's representative Allred is a leading women's rights lawyer and has represented clients who have filed lawsuits against the likes of Donald Trump and Tiger Woods. She is also the star of a Netflix series in the US, Seeing Allred.

Allred had written to Andy Foster, the California State Athletic Commission executive officer, and said: "Mr Pulev's reprehensible conduct and battery violates California law as well as the rules of the athletic commission.

"We hereby request that the commission conducts an immediate investigation into the serious allegations.

"We request Mr Pulev's boxing licence be suspended."

During the news conference, Allred took part in a question and answer session, where she said: "Even if she were a friend he would still have to ask and he clearly did not. I think this can be considered sexual harassment."

Vegas Sports Daily released a statement on Monday describing Ravalo as the "victim of an unwanted, unexpected and unsolicited forceful kiss".

"We are working around the clock with Jenny SuShe, and Pulev's management team to further investigate the matter and determine appropriate steps/actions following this unfortunate event," it added.

"We want to make it clear that women should feel safe and comfortable to exercise the duties of their job, free of abuse, advances, harassment, etc, in the workplace."


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BBC covering this too
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 08:01 BBC covering this too
thats a wrap for stiff old Kubrat - pc brigade will finish him!
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 07:49
Oiky wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 07:01 The way some folk are harping on about this is ridiculous :doh: :lol: was it a backward thing to do?yes. Should he have known better?yes. But it's a massive overreaction from some people

This woman is after money now,that's why she contacted who she did & not the police.....

The way some people are going on you'd think he ripped her shirt off her,took her bra off & started groping her all over
Also now added the fact that he groped her ass.. Probably made that up.

She has on camera that he kissed her, so it will be on her side, if he could do that on camera, what would he do off camera..
She didn't seem to give a f**k at the time.now she's realised the rewards she seems to be pursuing it
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Oiky wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 08:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 07:49
Oiky wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 07:01 The way some folk are harping on about this is ridiculous :doh: :lol: was it a backward thing to do?yes. Should he have known better?yes. But it's a massive overreaction from some people

This woman is after money now,that's why she contacted who she did & not the police.....

The way some people are going on you'd think he ripped her shirt off her,took her bra off & started groping her all over
Also now added the fact that he groped her ass.. Probably made that up.

She has on camera that he kissed her, so it will be on her side, if he could do that on camera, what would he do off camera..
She didn't seem to give a f**k at the time.now she's realised the rewards she seems to be pursuing it
She was definitely shocked and uncomfortable. She immediately described the kiss as “embarrassing” and “strange”. Her instant reaction was to shout “Jesus Christ!” It’s terribly stupid to claim the couldn’t “give a f**k at the time.” Do you suffer from some form of social-emotional agnosia by any chance?

Anyway, moving on, fighters can be suspended for bringing the sport into disrepute.

The sports’ governing bodies may be compelled by liberals, political activists, feminists, social justice warriors and the media to impose some sort of punishment on Pulev. He might receive a fine, a short-term suspension or even lose his IBF mandatory challenger status, which would be in addition to any potential civil or criminal lawsuits.

I don’t know what to think. The kiss alone was very stupid and technically unlawful, but if Jenny can prove that Pulev actually grabbed her buttocks, then it’s going to cost him dearly (out-of-court settlements and millions in a missed opportunity to challenge for the world title)!
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Well....
There is a picture doing the rounds of them together, I think before the contest as Pulev doesn't look cut above the eye, with her hand on his groin, both looking at the camera smiling.
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leejonesjnr wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 08:48 Well....
There is a picture doing the rounds of them together, I think before the contest as Pulev doesn't look cut above the eye, with her hand on his groin, both looking at the camera smiling.
Can you post a link?
Thanks
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Enlightened-One wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 08:25 ...

I don’t know what to think. The kiss alone was very stupid and technically unlawful, but if Jenny can prove that Pulev actually grabbed her buttocks, then it’s going to cost him dearly (out-of-court settlements and millions in a missed opportunity to challenge for the world title)!
..I sure as hell wanna see them wouldja pics :D ...seriously though, you throw this bone to the lawyers and they'll be all over it like hyenas making a mountain out of a molehill.. :brick:
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At first I thought they were making too big a deal over this. But...if he actually groped her buttocks, it's a whole different story. What kind of fool would do this? The California commission has stated that it is investigating and taking the charges very seriously. I can't fathom what would compel this guy to do these sort of things.
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oogiebe wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 09:43 At first I thought they were making too big a deal over this. But...if he actually groped her buttocks, it's a whole different story. What kind of fool would do this? The California commission has stated that it is investigating and taking the charges very seriously. I can't fathom what would compel this guy to do these sort of things.
My prediction
Pulev will pay her a good chunk of change.
Pulev will be fined half his purse
Pulev will serve a 1 year suspension
Pulev will be dropped from the ratings and lose his title shot.

That's what I think happens. But you never know with so many butthurt people in society
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tiny_acres wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 09:53
oogiebe wrote: 29 Mar 2019, 09:43 At first I thought they were making too big a deal over this. But...if he actually groped her buttocks, it's a whole different story. What kind of fool would do this? The California commission has stated that it is investigating and taking the charges very seriously. I can't fathom what would compel this guy to do these sort of things.
My prediction
Pulev will pay her a good chunk of change.
Pulev will be fined half his purse
Pulev will serve a 1 year suspension
Pulev will be dropped from the ratings and lose his title shot.

That's what I think happens. But you never know with so many butthurt people in society
A one year suspension could invariably end his career. Or at least any hope of ever getting a title shot.
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