Kubrat Pulev... #MeToo

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A suspension by the California body wouldn't really hurt Pulev. He'll just never fight there again, so what? The fine is the more effective tool.
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Some unanswered questions. Was there a butt grab? How well did they know each other? Pulev said, "She wanted more." Wouldn't be the first time a guy misread a girl. Was he right?

But please spare us the BS photo shop and lap dancing involving other people. This ain't facebook or Infowars. We're boxing fans, we're smarter than that.
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Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:08 Some unanswered questions. Was there a butt grab? How well did they know each other? Pulev said, "She wanted more." Wouldn't be the first time a guy misread a girl. Was he right?

But please spare us the BS photo shop and lap dancing involving other people. This ain't facebook or Infowars. We're boxing fans, we're smarter than that.
The fake photo was removed by Facebook. There's no excuse for this kind of behavior, and as per usual, it's getting overheated.
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oogiebe wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:11
Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:08 Some unanswered questions. Was there a butt grab? How well did they know each other? Pulev said, "She wanted more." Wouldn't be the first time a guy misread a girl. Was he right?

But please spare us the BS photo shop and lap dancing involving other people. This ain't facebook or Infowars. We're boxing fans, we're smarter than that.
The fake photo was removed by Facebook. There's no excuse for this kind of behavior, and as per usual, it's getting overheated.
You mean Puiev's behavior? Or the Chuck's of the world who post false sh!t? Or both?
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Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:59
tiny_acres wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:51
Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:48
tiny_acres wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:40
Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:38
tiny_acres wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:33
Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:28 Its easy for us to hit buttons on our device or keyboard and call her names, but if someone came up to you and told you that you could make a million dollars, would you turn them down?

You would? Really? :maybe:
Straight to the point and honest :TU:
You've had a lot of good posts here that also deserve a :TU:

Yes, women who complain about minor incidents from a long time ago make women look bad, but when we call women whores and gold diggers in an angry tone it doesn't make us guys look very good. Yeah, if a woman is a 10 she will generally go for a rich successful guy and so would you if you were them.
What punishment do expect boxing to put on him?
I have no idea. I wouldn't be surprised if there was an overreaction. Anything over a 10% fine of his purse and maybe 30 minutes of listening to Gloria Allred should be the max. Actually the last part sounds too cruel. :lol:
I expect a hefty fine. Probably 50% of his purse and 6-12 month suspension.

I'd shoot myself before listening to Gloria Allred for a half hour.

That fine is too much IMO but I think you're right. It likely will be something like that. Boxers fight so seldom nowadays the suspension won't mean much unless it is longer than a year. I think most guys have an instinct to grab boobs, kiss a hot girl or punch a random guy in the face, but we can't. Its no socially acceptable. :OhYes:
The world keeps changing. But our desires don't
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Re: Kubrat Pulev... #MeToo

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SenorPipino wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:22
sturm vogel wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 01:22 Not astonished anymore.

Eight pages of "men" who purport to be fight fans angwy because some boxer kissed a reporter he at knows. Such harm! Such anguish the boxer caused!

Pulev is the Georgy Porgy of the week.

So you will excuse Pulev's behavior because he happens to be a boxer?

A boxer can do anything criminal or antisocial and it's perfectly fine by you?

And if we find fault with Pulev's Neanderthal actions then we're not legit boxing fans?

What decade of the 19th century do you live in?
You kids these days. Such a bunch of soft marshmallows. A man just looks at that and laughs. That woman is not exactly a lady; she's what we used to call fresh, loose, and easy. A kiss is no big deal. She can try to sue him, but good luck bringing a suit to Bulgaria. Remember what the Bulgarians said to foreign invaders? "No Bulgaria for you!"
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Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:28 Its easy for us to hit buttons on our device or keyboard and call her names, but if someone came up to you and told you that you could make a million dollars, would you turn them down?

You would? Really? :maybe:
Well if I'd first have to get kissed on the mouth and have my buttocks squeezed by Kubrat Pulev ... :D

Seriously it depends what I'd have to do for the money ...

Kill an innocent person? No way.
Rob them? No.
Do the dirty on a friend? I'd like to think I wouldn't
Accept payment for being sexually abused by a stranger? Isn't there a word for that?

While I fully appreciate the distinction between consensual and involuntary (if not necessarily the grey area in between) i do think that getting a lawyer and pursuing Pulev for money is not a million miles away from prostitution ... unless of course she plans to donate it to charity.
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Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:14
oogiebe wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:11
Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:08 Some unanswered questions. Was there a butt grab? How well did they know each other? Pulev said, "She wanted more." Wouldn't be the first time a guy misread a girl. Was he right?

But please spare us the BS photo shop and lap dancing involving other people. This ain't facebook or Infowars. We're boxing fans, we're smarter than that.
The fake photo was removed by Facebook. There's no excuse for this kind of behavior, and as per usual, it's getting overheated.
You mean Puiev's behavior? Or the Chuck's of the world who post false sh!t? Or both?
"D" All of the above. :OhYes:
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Case solved!!!

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So, Ilya was right calling her a whore.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:52 Case solved!!!

Haha, people who hate Pulev for that kiss must feel like an idiots now :D Oversensitive people all around us :D :D :D
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candyslim wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:46
Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:28 Its easy for us to hit buttons on our device or keyboard and call her names, but if someone came up to you and told you that you could make a million dollars, would you turn them down?

You would? Really? :maybe:
Well if I'd first have to get kissed on the mouth and have my buttocks squeezed by Kubrat Pulev ... :D

Seriously it depends what I'd have to do for the money ...

Kill an innocent person? No way.
Rob them? No.
Do the dirty on a friend? I'd like to think I wouldn't
Accept payment for being sexually abused by a stranger? Isn't there a word for that?

While I fully appreciate the distinction between consensual and involuntary (if not necessarily the grey area in between) i do think that getting a lawyer and pursuing Pulev for money is not a million miles away from prostitution ... unless of course she plans to donate it to charity.

Not a bad argument. Both sides leave something to be desired. Pulev saying, "She wanted more," whether true or not doesn't sound very stately. And she's totally losing me by going to Gloria Allred. If she wants to continue her career she shouldn't want the fans to hate her.

He should write out a check for 10% of his purse to the charity of her choice. He should apologize and then they should platonically hug. There's the solution.

Everyone makes everything so damn difficult. :witzend:
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boxing_rocks wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 11:25 So, Ilya was right calling her a whore.

:TU:

Hey I've been around the block I know the score.
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sturm vogel wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:29
SenorPipino wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:22
sturm vogel wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 01:22 Not astonished anymore.

Eight pages of "men" who purport to be fight fans angwy because some boxer kissed a reporter he at knows. Such harm! Such anguish the boxer caused!

Pulev is the Georgy Porgy of the week.

So you will excuse Pulev's behavior because he happens to be a boxer?

A boxer can do anything criminal or antisocial and it's perfectly fine by you?

And if we find fault with Pulev's Neanderthal actions then we're not legit boxing fans?

What decade of the 19th century do you live in?
You kids these days. Such a bunch of soft marshmallows. A man just looks at that and laughs. That woman is not exactly a lady; she's what we used to call fresh, loose, and easy. A kiss is no big deal. She can try to sue him, but good luck bringing a suit to Bulgaria. Remember what the Bulgarians said to foreign invaders? "No Bulgaria for you!"
I'll assume that you don't know this woman, never met her.

Therefore any derogatory comment you make about Sushe only reveals your massively transparent problem with women.
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One thing I'm certain of. Regardless of the outcome she'll never get another boxing interview again.
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sturm vogel wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:29
SenorPipino wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:22
sturm vogel wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 01:22 Not astonished anymore.

Eight pages of "men" who purport to be fight fans angwy because some boxer kissed a reporter he at knows. Such harm! Such anguish the boxer caused!

Pulev is the Georgy Porgy of the week.

So you will excuse Pulev's behavior because he happens to be a boxer?

A boxer can do anything criminal or antisocial and it's perfectly fine by you?

And if we find fault with Pulev's Neanderthal actions then we're not legit boxing fans?

What decade of the 19th century do you live in?
You kids these days. Such a bunch of soft marshmallows. A man just looks at that and laughs. That woman is not exactly a lady; she's what we used to call fresh, loose, and easy. A kiss is no big deal. She can try to sue him, but good luck bringing a suit to Bulgaria. Remember what the Bulgarians said to foreign invaders? "No Bulgaria for you!"
:TU:

At least one guy here has his head screwed on right.

The boxing bosses are sending in these tiny big busted bimbos to do the interviews and commentaries - and "party" with the boxers. Part PCness and part maybe looking to drum up business for the stinking lawyers, and they don't stink any worse than the one this little whore picked, Gloria Allred, the worst feminist lawyer on the planet outside those two in the Ukraine who specialize in defending women who kill men!
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Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 11:32
candyslim wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 10:46
Tony1244 wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 09:28 Its easy for us to hit buttons on our device or keyboard and call her names, but if someone came up to you and told you that you could make a million dollars, would you turn them down?

You would? Really? :maybe:
Well if I'd first have to get kissed on the mouth and have my buttocks squeezed by Kubrat Pulev ... :D

Seriously it depends what I'd have to do for the money ...

Kill an innocent person? No way.
Rob them? No.
Do the dirty on a friend? I'd like to think I wouldn't
Accept payment for being sexually abused by a stranger? Isn't there a word for that?

While I fully appreciate the distinction between consensual and involuntary (if not necessarily the grey area in between) i do think that getting a lawyer and pursuing Pulev for money is not a million miles away from prostitution ... unless of course she plans to donate it to charity.

Not a bad argument. Both sides leave something to be desired. Pulev saying, "She wanted more," whether true or not doesn't sound very stately. And she's totally losing me by going to Gloria Allred. If she wants to continue her career she shouldn't want the fans to hate her.

He should write out a check for 10% of his purse to the charity of her choice. He should apologize and then they should platonically hug. There's the solution.

Everyone makes everything so damn difficult. :witzend:
Damn Tony this judging lark is a doddle isn't it? Judge Judy eat your heart out. :TU:

Maybe we skip the platonic hug part :D
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Maybe Pulev groped her ass because she was sat on his lap?

And that video I uploaded just there, she asks if she’s being recorded. Clearly didn’t want to be.

Straight after that party she hires an attorney.

It was wrong of Pulev to kiss her, in his defence they were friends? No?
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oogiebe wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 11:39 One thing I'm certain of. Regardless of the outcome she'll never get another boxing interview again.
..I sincerely hope so..
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greg wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 11:56
oogiebe wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 11:39 One thing I'm certain of. Regardless of the outcome she'll never get another boxing interview again.
..I sincerely hope so..
What fighter would put himself into that position? um...none! Someone mentioned on youtube to watch this same woman interviewing Galahad. Looking for vid to share.
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After so much information on this over magnified 'event,' I have a couple points I want to share.

1-Pulev was stupid for kissing her, especially on the air.
2-Her lawyering up is opportunistic at best
3-the pic of her at the after-fight party at the table makes me question her being embarrassed or hurt.
4-her career wasn't damaged by this happening, it actually put her on the map, had she only left it alone.
5-the lap dance video and her manner of dress makes her lose credibility.
6-Finally, she has, by her own actions, hurt her career as boxers will shy away from doing any interview or picture taking with her.
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oogiebe wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 12:16 After so much information on this over magnified 'event,' I have a couple points I want to share.

1-Pulev was stupid for kissing her, especially on the air.
2-Her lawyering up is opportunistic at best
3-the pic of her at the after-fight party at the table makes me question her being embarrassed or hurt.
4-her career wasn't damaged by this happening, it actually put her on the map, had she only left it alone.
5-the lap dance video and her manner of dress makes her lose credibility.
6-Finally, she has, by her own actions, hurt her career as boxers will shy away from doing any interview or picture taking with her.
..certainly not approving or saying Pulev's actions were appropriate or professioinal...still think though this "lady" should be professionally ostracised provided she presses her charges..
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Yes she'd be well advised to say that she had no intention of taking action against Pulev, appointing Allred was intended to put the frighteners on him and get him to appreciate the gravity of what he'd done and what the consequences could have been.
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candyslim wrote: 30 Mar 2019, 12:31 Yes she'd be well advised to say that she had no intention of taking action against Pulev, appointing Allred was intended to put the frighteners on him and get him to appreciate the gravity of what he'd done and what the consequences could have been.
Guess she didn't remember the lap dance and actually being at the after party. Her actions, as well as her choice of provocative dress doesn't bode well for her. She's finished in boxing. Pulev has to now explain his actions before a CAC board. Big deal.
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