Gennady Golovkin vs. Brandon Adams - June 8, 2019?

When does GGG finish Adams?

Poll ended at 09 Jun 2019, 08:00

Rd 1-2
7
25%
Rd 3-4
10
36%
Rd 5-6
8
29%
Rd 7-8
0
No votes
Rd 9-10
1
4%
Rd 11-12
0
No votes
Decision win
2
7%
 
Total votes: 28

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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Brandon Adams - June 8, 2019

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ValMar wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 10:08
SenorPipino wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 09:56
Thomastearns wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 09:35
ValMar wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 08:59 I am tired of Canelo vs. GGG endless story.
I would like to see these opponents for GGG : Charlo, Dervi, Andrade, BJS (and all LMW champions if they decide to move up, all of them are the same size or bigger than GGG).
It doesn't matter whether we want to see it or not - barring a miracle it's going to happen. Far, far too much money riding on it.

GGG is expected to walk through his opponent without too much trouble and Canelo is fighting in his back yard once more.

To win at the T Mobile, Las Vegas, Danny will need to stop Canelo or win by an even bigger margin than GGG did first fight. A huge ask for Jacobs who will need the performance of his career to take Alvarez apart on May 5th.

You can bet the Canelo cartel have the odds calculated down to the hundredth percentile point. This includes the opponent, the date, the venue, the referee, the judges and plenty more we will never know.

Business as usual in Sin City.
Or Canelo might just pound out Jacobs because he's better.

He usually is, with or without the help of some fantasy cartel.
I think that Canelo is really better than Jacobs. I think that Canelo will have help by "cartel" too. It will be very difficult for Jacobs to win, very, very difficult..............
I’d have much more respect if Canelo just won the fight fair. He is better than Jacobs. But I feel because he knows the scorecards will be slightly in his favour, he may not try too much.

How does Jacobs react to body shots?
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Brandon Adams - June 8, 2019

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apollo creed wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 08:42
caldo2025 wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 07:21 Typically when these dual main events consisting of same weight division are scheduled, it’s an attempt to Juice the prospects of the winners fighting each other. GGG vs Andrade would be a great fight but all wrong for GGG. I hope this doesn’t happen as a GGG fan because Andrade is nasty slick and primed. Could be an embarrassing proposal.
:lol:
Andrade would have the same faith of Monroe Jr if he fights GGG. Maybe BJS in a tip top shape would pose problems to GGG. :TU:
Andrade had a very close fight with Vanes and got dropped by him. Even current version of GGG stops him with no real problems.
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Brandon Adams - June 8, 2019

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boxing_rocks wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 11:58
apollo creed wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 08:42
caldo2025 wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 07:21 Typically when these dual main events consisting of same weight division are scheduled, it’s an attempt to Juice the prospects of the winners fighting each other. GGG vs Andrade would be a great fight but all wrong for GGG. I hope this doesn’t happen as a GGG fan because Andrade is nasty slick and primed. Could be an embarrassing proposal.
:lol:
Andrade would have the same faith of Monroe Jr if he fights GGG. Maybe BJS in a tip top shape would pose problems to GGG. :TU:
Andrade had a very close fight with Vanes and got dropped by him. Even current version of GGG stops him with no real problems.
Likely ? Yes !
Surely? No !
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Brandon Adams - June 8, 2019

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boxing_rocks wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 11:58
apollo creed wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 08:42
caldo2025 wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 07:21 Typically when these dual main events consisting of same weight division are scheduled, it’s an attempt to Juice the prospects of the winners fighting each other. GGG vs Andrade would be a great fight but all wrong for GGG. I hope this doesn’t happen as a GGG fan because Andrade is nasty slick and primed. Could be an embarrassing proposal.
:lol:
Andrade would have the same faith of Monroe Jr if he fights GGG. Maybe BJS in a tip top shape would pose problems to GGG. :TU:
Andrade had a very close fight with Vanes and got dropped by him. Even current version of GGG stops him with no real problems.
As I said the current version of Andrade is no better than the version of Monroe Jr that GGG fought. People praise Andrade's 'slickness' like he's the 160 lbs version of Pernell Whitaker. :doh: :lol: Andrade has no top or good win on his resume to suggest he's the real deal.
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Brandon Adams - June 8, 2019

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I dont know why people think that slick runners cause GGG problems. Canelo is troubled by that style, but GGG can chase down these types. Being physically strong and control center of ring is what you must do against GGG, Jacobs and Canelo (2nd fight) showed that. Speaking of Monroe fight, just look at it. Firts 2 rounds Willie was backpedaling and taking shots without doing any damage. In rounds 3 and 4 he stand in some toe to toe action and was doing far better. Still, he was not strong enough and good enough to threat GGG. If Demetrius Andrade want to win in potentional GGG clash, it would be not with backpedaling and slipping along the ropes. Physical presence and using real punching power will be needed. I am still favoring GGG in that. My opinion, sorry for my english :D
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Cent0089 wrote: 31 Mar 2019, 14:44 I dont know why people think that slick runners cause GGG problems. Canelo is troubled by that style, but GGG can chase down these types. Being physically strong and control center of ring is what you must do against GGG, Jacobs and Canelo (2nd fight) showed that. Speaking of Monroe fight, just look at it. Firts 2 rounds Willie was backpedaling and taking shots without doing any damage. In rounds 3 and 4 he stand in some toe to toe action and was doing far better. Still, he was not strong enough and good enough to threat GGG. If Demetrius Andrade want to win in potentional GGG clash, it would be not with backpedaling and slipping along the ropes. Physical presence and using real punching power will be needed. I am still favoring GGG in that. My opinion, sorry for my english :D
Andrade would get T/KO by GGG.
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Brandon Adams - June 8, 2019

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first Andrade must defeat Sulecki who's gonna be the best opponent that Andrade faced so far.
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dagilechia wrote: 01 Apr 2019, 07:40 first Andrade must defeat Sulecki who's gonna be the best opponent that Andrade faced so far.
What do you think about Sulecki's chances. As I know, he is your compatriot, surely you know much more about him than majority of posters here.
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dagilechia wrote: 01 Apr 2019, 07:40 first Andrade must defeat Sulecki who's gonna be the best opponent that Andrade faced so far.
Spot on. Sulecki gave some fists to Jacobs. He's no joke.
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ValMar wrote: 01 Apr 2019, 12:16
dagilechia wrote: 01 Apr 2019, 07:40 first Andrade must defeat Sulecki who's gonna be the best opponent that Andrade faced so far.
What do you think about Sulecki's chances. As I know, he is your compatriot, surely you know much more about him than majority of posters here.
he has a very good jab, he's quick, tall, and he is very commited to the sport, stays in shape 12 months per year. he must improve his clinching abilities as he often gets hurt in clinches it's like he believes in the refs too much, unfortunately trainer Gmitruk died so he loses concentration too often, especially in the later rounds when he's ahead on the cards, it happened in 2 fights without trainer Gmitruk (Culcay and Rosado), he was much better vs Jacobs (this fight could go either way, every result from 115-112 Jacobs to 114-113 Sulęcki was acceptable). Gmitruk in the corner was a big advantage, he was a great trainer and motivator. Sulęcki is the most skilled Polish fighter right now.

He got his hand hurt in his last fight and he needs a rehabilitation, not too much time left, i hope this will not affect his training camp.

some say that he's chinny because he was down vs Rosado and hurt by Culcay but remember that Jacobs who was like 32 wins 29 by KO couldn't knock him out and after the knockdown in rd 12 Sulęcki was still game and won the last 2 minutes of the fight.

this is imo 50/50 fight, i lean towards Sulęcki. Andrade is a slick fighter, i'm worrying if the scorecards will be fair.
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Brandon Adams - June 8, 2019

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dagilechia wrote: 01 Apr 2019, 12:59
ValMar wrote: 01 Apr 2019, 12:16
dagilechia wrote: 01 Apr 2019, 07:40 first Andrade must defeat Sulecki who's gonna be the best opponent that Andrade faced so far.
What do you think about Sulecki's chances. As I know, he is your compatriot, surely you know much more about him than majority of posters here.
he has a very good jab, he's quick, tall, and he is very commited to the sport, stays in shape 12 months per year. he must improve his clinching abilities as he often gets hurt in clinches it's like he believes in the refs too much, unfortunately trainer Gmitruk died so he loses concentration too often, especially in the later rounds when he's ahead on the cards, it happened in 2 fights without trainer Gmitruk (Culcay and Rosado), he was much better vs Jacobs (this fight could go either way, every result from 115-112 Jacobs to 114-113 Sulęcki was acceptable). Gmitruk in the corner was a big advantage, he was a great trainer and motivator. Sulęcki is the most skilled Polish fighter right now.

He got his hand hurt in his last fight and he needs a rehabilitation, not too much time left, i hope this will not affect his training camp.

some say that he's chinny because he was down vs Rosado and hurt by Culcay but remember that Jacobs who was like 32 wins 29 by KO couldn't knock him out and after the knockdown in rd 12 Sulęcki was still game and won the last 2 minutes of the fight.

this is imo 50/50 fight, i lean towards Sulęcki. Andrade is a slick fighter, i'm worrying if the scorecards will be fair.
Well done ! Thank you ! :TU:
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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Brandon Adams - June 8, 2019

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im seeing rumors that adams might fight mall charlo instead ?
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jamamb wrote: 01 Apr 2019, 20:29 im seeing rumors that adams might fight mall charlo instead ?

I see that as well, but remember it is April 1st, but if true who does GGG fight?
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1okstcsb wrote: 01 Apr 2019, 23:59
jamamb wrote: 01 Apr 2019, 20:29 im seeing rumors that adams might fight mall charlo instead ?

I see that as well, but remember it is April 1st, but if true who does GGG fight?
The media previously reported that Kamil Szeremeta was contacted by GGG for a potential fight, around the same time that Brandon Adams was. No idea if Szeremeta would actually be Golovkin's replacement for Adams though.
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ndam in the mix now apparently , hes the best mentioned so far probably
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jamamb wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 10:29 ndam in the mix now apparently , hes the best mentioned so far probably
Hassan N'Dam? OMFG! Surely GGG Promotions (Gennady or Tom Loeffler) can do better than that?
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Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 10:52
jamamb wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 10:29 ndam in the mix now apparently , hes the best mentioned so far probably
Hassan N'Dam? OMFG! Surely GGG Promotions (Gennady or Tom Loeffler) can do better than that?
I'm surprised they havent fought before.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 11:02
Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 10:52
jamamb wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 10:29 ndam in the mix now apparently , hes the best mentioned so far probably
Hassan N'Dam? OMFG! Surely GGG Promotions (Gennady or Tom Loeffler) can do better than that?
I'm surprised they havent fought before.
So am I.

If GGG and Hassan N'Dam had fought anytime between 2010 to 2014, it would’ve been perceived as a really good match-up. However, he’s no longer a top-ten fighter and appears highly-vulnerable. He’s kind of become the equivalent, in terms of ranking, of fringe contenders like Curtis Stevens and Grzegorz Proksa were when they faced GGG.

To be fair, Hassan N'Dam is a better opponent for Golovkin than someone like Brandon Adams, who only recently made the jump to 160lbs from 154lbs, whilst having never beaten any notable fighter.

I’m a little bit perplexed about the reason why GGG is choosing to face guys like this. He’s going to be 37 years old in less than a week and he shouldn’t wasting his time facing these type of opponents.
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N'Dam declined offers from Loefler multiple times.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 10:52
jamamb wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 10:29 ndam in the mix now apparently , hes the best mentioned so far probably
Hassan N'Dam? OMFG! Surely GGG Promotions (Gennady or Tom Loeffler) can do better than that?
lol come on now , its not OMFG bad when we seen names like adams and that polish guy kamil mentioned lol

but ya certanly not any big name or interesting name.

at this point its a big ass payday for seemingly not very much risk.......
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boxing_rocks wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 11:44 N'Dam declined offers from Loefler multiple times.
A few years ago, when Hassan N'Dam was still perceived as being a decent fighter, he was promoted by Golden Boy, with his bouts televised by Showtime, whereas GGG had a network deal with HBO. Politically-speaking, the fight might have been possible from 2015 onwards when GBP resumed working with HBO.

Also, I don't recall any offers Loeffler made to N'Dam during this time and nor can I find any articles to prove that this even happened.

If Loeffler really did submit multiple offers to N'Dam, which were subsequebtly rejected, it would surely be easy to find articles about them?
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jamamb wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 11:49
Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 10:52
jamamb wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 10:29 ndam in the mix now apparently , hes the best mentioned so far probably
Hassan N'Dam? OMFG! Surely GGG Promotions (Gennady or Tom Loeffler) can do better than that?
lol come on now , its not OMFG bad when we seen names like adams and that polish guy kamil mentioned lol

but ya certanly not any big name or interesting name.

at this point its a big ass payday for seemingly not very much risk.......
Sorry jamamb, you didn't read my previous post.
Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 11:15To be fair, Hassan N'Dam is a better opponent for Golovkin than someone like Brandon Adams, who only recently made the jump to 160lbs from 154lbs, whilst having never beaten any notable fighter.

I’m a little bit perplexed about the reason why GGG is choosing to face guys like this. He’s going to be 37 years old in less than a week and he shouldn’t wasting his time facing these type of opponents.
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i did read it mate but OMFG in any way seems a bit over the top for ndam :yay:
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jamamb wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 12:18 i did read it mate but OMFG in any way seems a bit over the top for ndam :yay:
I’m just surprised about GGG choosing easy prey. He’s going to be 37 years old soon. He doesn’t have time on his side to waste.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 02 Apr 2019, 12:01 If Loeffler really did submit multiple offers to N'Dam, which were subsequebtly rejected, it would surely be easy to find articles about them?
I have an email from Loefler dated December of 2013 when they announced the Adama fight in Monaco. He said "NDamm did not accept, Murray turned it down, Andy Lee turned it down, Geale promoter turned it down".
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