I'm trying to explain why these fights don't happen and why screaming for them and inventing anticipated matchups is a waste of time.lazboy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2019, 03:52Exactly. You’ve lost perspective senior. Now a business fan rather than a boxing fan.apollo creed wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 15:29lol With this kind of mentality we ain't gonna see intriguing matches any time soon. We are f-cking boxing fans, not promoters, not managers, so we need to see the fights that are appealing us, not 'extra marinate-faded buisness fights'.SenorPipino wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 13:45Of course they have different promoters, different networks, so there's no chance of it happening any time soon.apollo creed wrote: ↑01 Apr 2019, 13:34 They just try to build the hype around him till 25-26 y/o if not a cherry pick goes really wrong. He remembers of Zurdo Ramirez.
I'd like to see Ryan vs Teofimo Lopez who is 21 y/o asasp to see who is who!
And why waste a potential super fight when both are still just prospects?
Big names demand a big stage. A world championship or 2 needs to be on the line.
And why bother to take a relatively paltry $500,000 or whatever risk today? Especially when the purse could be 50 times that several years from now.
You need to accept that big fights are big business and the revenue comes first. It really always has.
No money, no fights.
And don't let all the macho posturing by the fighters themselves fool you and make you believe that they're on the fan's side, unlike the promoters.
The boxers want the largest payday available and are willing to wait it out--for several years if necessary--to make sure they are rewarded with a staggering purse. Even if they publically insist that they want the big fight "today."
Promoters don't want to lose money. And fighters want to be handsomely paid for participating in a sport where they put their safety and even their lives on the line.
I related the story before about how Mike Trainer and Angelo Dundee bypassed a million dollar offer in 1979 to match Ray Leonard with Thomas Hearns.
Word got out and immediately the stories began that Team Leonard was afraid of Hearns.
Years later Dundee related that the "fear factor" was non existent and that they were confident that Leonard would win.
The reason they turned down the offer was that Dundee and Trainer both understood that a half million purse in 1979 would eventually become a likely $10 million payday if they waited a few years.
Championships on the line. A much bigger stage. Far more drama. And far more money.
And they were right. It didn't make sense to rush a bout that will mean quite a bit more as time goes on.
Arum is correct when he observes that "boxing fans want everything now. They have no concept of how the business works."
Boxing is just as much a business as a sport, maybe even more so.
When it comes to anticipated matchups, you won't always get what you want.
If Jagger can understand that, so can you guys.
