why are boxrec points changing more than the wind?

[jamamb]

where would your bro alex (lol no surprise at that relation) be ranked in a fair ranking system? what number?

[John]

No sense in getting airated there is a full explanation here http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/BoxRe ... escription

[John]

If you think there is an error in the code please give some examples so we can test.

[jamamb]

trust him john, hes sound with his maths

[John]

It isn't a question of trust, it's statistics. If there is an error please let us know and we will do something about it.

[BoxingObserver92]

Ikr. I thought the last adjustment was good enough but this recent one has me questioning the rankings more than ever.

[escobar]

Boxrec pick and choose what shows they are going to post so many fighters records are not accurate.
So we can’t have faith with Boxrec ranking systems as many fighters records are not accurate.
Stop having so much faith in Boxrec.

Marina and John are harming many fighters careers with their inaccurate boxing website.

[escobar]

I think theres been close to 4 points updates inside a couple of months.

im all for new systems etc, but there are so many anomalies that don't make any mathematical sense, which is apparently what the system is based on?

computerrank, please don't think im having a go, but its really not making any kind of sense. I mean should it be possible for an 0-3 fighter with 0.046 points beforehand beating a guy who is 7-0-1 with 0.053 points beforehand....then ending up with a whopping 26.72 points afterwards?

http://boxrec.com/en/event/786217/2342146

There are many examples of this. Its hard not to see bias towards (and against) certain fighters, for example a fighter with 16 points knocks out a fighter with 6 points inside a round and gets like 1 point for it?. It shouldn't be the case that certain fighters were always ranked above others, and no post fights occurring, then getting switched around. I cant help but think based on this evidence that something dodgy is occurring with the rankings. I will no longer comment on rankings, because I have little faith in them not being skewed towards/against certain fighters, I am just completely stunned by it all.

Boxrec have Loma number 6 in the P4P list. That says it all. AJ and Spence are above him. They pick and choose what results they want to record.

[oogiebe]

Boxrec have Loma number 6 in the P4P list. That says it all. AJ and Spence are above him. They pick and choose what results they want to record.

LMAO! C'mon, get real. You know that isn't what it is about. BoxRec is transparent regarding how their points are scored.

[computerrank]

@Teflondon19

computerrank, please don't think im having a go, but its really not making any kind of sense. I mean should it be possible for an 0-3 fighter with 0.046 points beforehand beating a guy who is 7-0-1 with 0.053 points beforehand....then ending up with a whopping 26.72 points afterwards?

http://boxrec.com/en/event/786217/2342146

RESPONSE

Please look into the Ratings forum and discuss it there.

The requirement for additional points may have to be restricted even more. So that the winner has to be in state 1 too at least (just as currently the loser has to).

[escobar]

@Teflondon19

computerrank, please don't think im having a go, but its really not making any kind of sense. I mean should it be possible for an 0-3 fighter with 0.046 points beforehand beating a guy who is 7-0-1 with 0.053 points beforehand....then ending up with a whopping 26.72 points afterwards?

http://boxrec.com/en/event/786217/2342146

RESPONSE

Please look into the Ratings forum and discuss it there.

The requirement for additional points may have to be restricted even more. So that the winner has to be in state 1 too at least (just as currently the loser has to).

Boxrec do what they want. Commissions give them results reports and they pick and choose what ones they want to record.
Boxrec isn’t the police of boxing but acting like it with their dodgy ranking system.

[escobar]

sorry john but I have found even more worrying evidence of foul play;

http://151.boxrec.com/~martin/inc/calc_ ... d_2=757327


http://151.boxrec.com/~martin/inc/calc_ ... d_2=673483


http://151.boxrec.com/~martin/inc/calc_ ... d_2=756050

NOW THIS IS THE OFFICIAL SCHEME COMPUTRERRANK posted....

PLEASE NOTICE THE FOLLOWING......

i have put alex dilmaghani vs fonseca....alex dilmaghani vs rashib martinez .......alex dilmaghani vs giovanni moletti

in EVERY CASE..... alex dilmaghanis boxrec points were 33.82 as of today but hes listed as 17.62.....almost half!

every fighter i used and there were 9 in total.....show that the fighters points listed was inside +or- 1.1 of their actual ratings.

for example ; fonseca points on were 41.43 and on boxrec ratings was 40.41 rashib martinez was listed as 17.80 and on boxrec ratings IS 17.77

and moletti was 90.34 and on boxrec ratings 89.59

WHEREAS alex dilmaghani is 33.82 (which is about right as he should hav 10x his previous points from the last update) but has 17.66 on boxrec ratings.

THIS IS A MISTAKE, THERE is NO DEFENCE FROM THIS.....IN EVERY PERMUTATION.....and can be taken as nothing but BIAS, until it is rectified. PLEASE FIX THIS.

I’m happy that the Brit alex dilmaghani has his fights recorded as Mark DeMori and Prince Patel. Can’t even get their recent fight recorded by John and Marina Shepard. Just because they have a vendetta against a promoter they don’t want to upload results that are harming their careers.

[escobar]

its not about the fights escobar, thats not my point, although after seeing whats going on with the rankings i wouldnt be surprised if there are other issues.

its the blatent fixing of rankings.....THATS BLACK AND WHITE MATHEMATICAL EVIDENCE, ANYWAY YOU WANT TO CUT IT UP

OR MAYBE ITS AN HONEST MISTAKE.......Either way its not right or ok.

men lie women lie numbers dont.

I didn’t know of the ranking change or issues but I’m just letting people know that the people that run Boxrec are picking and choosing what records they upload which harm boxers careers.
I’ve know Alex for many years. He went to Mexico and then Canada as couldn’t get backing in the UK. What John and Marina Sheppard are doing is disgraceful. These fighters box on small shows across the world in hopes of a big fight in the USA, UK and Boxrec choose not to record it as it’s with a small commission or because they dislike a promoter. Boxing truly F’s the boxers without a voice.

[jamamb]

to what purpose would the ranking be fixed? just to discriminate against alex dil lol?

[JCS]

This is fking weird.....

[oogiebe]

This is fking weird.....

And exasperating.

[jamamb]

ya out of all the boxers in the world boxrec decided to rig there rankings to screw alex dilghmani say alexs brother, sure

some ppl just salty there boy ranking fell. maybe fight a good opponentm

its all good though,, this is fun to watch

[oogiebe]

ya out of all the boxers in the world boxrec decided to rig there rankings to screw alex dilghmani say alexs brother, sure

some ppl just salty there boy ranking fell. maybe fight a good opponentm

its all good though,, this is fun to watch

It's incredible. This guy is like a train wreck.