Classic fights I've watched recently

[oogiebe]

Lol, that's like people that say Duran and hearns avoided McCallum by fighting hagler and each other.

Who the heck says that???!!! LOL!!! (I know...exactly your point)

[chrisjs1985]

Who the heck says that???!!! LOL!!! (I know...exactly your point)

McCallum and tons of hipsters who swore a quartet of legends, who'd fight each other were ducking McCallum.

I am a McCallum fan but that myth has gotten old and tiresome.

[oogiebe]

McCallum and tons of hipsters who swore a quartet of legends, who'd fight each other were ducking McCallum.

I am a McCallum fan but that myth has gotten old and tiresome.

Wow! I never noticed that or simply ignored it and forgot. That's utterly silly.

[Onetimeonly]

Wow! I never noticed that or simply ignored it and forgot. That's utterly silly.

Really? It's a message board staple. I always said ducking McCallum to fight hagler and hearns was like ducking cancer for Ebola.

[elmersalsa]

Lol, that's like people that say Duran and hearns avoided McCallum by fighting hagler and each other.

It wasn't that the great Mike McCallum was avoided by The Fab 4. First, there wasn't enough time . Second, McCallum came like too late for the party.

[Onetimeonly]

It wasn't that the great Mike McCallum was avoided by The Fab 4. First, there wasn't enough time . Second, McCallum came like too late for the party.

Exactly, paret didn't avoid Griffith to go for another title when it really meant something.

[handsofstone]

Rubin Carter vs Jimmy Ellis



Carter outpoints a young up and coming Ellis in a non title Middleweight contest over 10 rounds, Ellis was never a big Heavyweight but I never knew he started off at 160 especially considering he was outmuscled from Carter whos like a bull, throws every shot with bad intentions and even the ones that are partially blocked looked hurtful, his jab was excellent, it was strong and he used it constantly, Carter had Ellis down at the end of the 4th with a right hand, not enough time left in the round to capatalise and Ellis took it well TBF

I think Ellis could've made this easier for himself by using his height and reach along with his legs to outbox Carter but he chose to try match Carter punch for punch and although he landed the jab and occasional right hand, it was Carter who was enjoyed the most success, the jab along with the body punches up close making the difference

[handsofstone]

Jimmy Ellis vs Jerry Quarry



Ellis beats Quarry by MD to win the vacant World Heavyweight title, dull affair, not a lot of action, Quarry looked flat, didn't press as he normally did, Ellis was set on fighting on the backfoot and drawing the lead but Quarry was unwilling, there was a lot of feinting and posturing on the outside from both men, several times Ellis would just walk away from Quarry who'd just plod forward, there wasn't a lot to split the rounds

It wasn't until well after the halfway point that Ellis started to flick out the jab and come over with the right to pull away, Quarry upped things in the last 3 rounds but Ellis done a good job of making him miss with his haymakers

[handsofstone]

Earnie Shavers vs Jimmy Ellis


Shavers ices Ellis in 1 round of a fun but quick non title fight, both guys come out slugging and Ellis hurt Shavers and had him backed in the corner teeing off on him, looked like it was him that was going to win early but Shavers spun him out the corner and nailed him with a right uppercut, dropped Ellis for the count

[handsofstone]

Ruben Olivares vs Lionel Rose


Olivares steamrolls through Rose in 5 rounds to win the World Bantamweight title, tough, tough night for Rose he tried his best to fight it out with Olivares but Olivares was just relentless and never gave him a minute from the opening bell, he threw everything at Rose, both hands to head and body non stop, the left hooks he was digging into the body looked sickening, he had Rose down from a chopping right in the 2nd

Olivares continued to batter Rose around the ring, hard accurate punching, every shot thrown with real spite, in the 5th Rose finally wilted, down from a hail of punches he bravely got up but Olivares knew he had him and decked him with a big right hand to end things, sheer destruction from Olivares

[elmersalsa]

Ruben Olivares vs Lionel Rose


Olivares steamrolls through Rose in 5 rounds to win the World Bantamweight title, tough, tough night for Rose he tried his best to fight it out with Olivares but Olivares was just relentless and never gave him a minute from the opening bell, he threw everything at Rose, both hands to head and body non stop, the left hooks he was digging into the body looked sickening, he had Rose down from a chopping right in the 2nd

Olivares continued to batter Rose around the ring, hard accurate punching, every shot thrown with real spite, in the 5th Rose finally wilted, down from a hail of punches he bravely got up but Olivares knew he had him and decked him with a big right hand to end things, sheer destruction from Olivares

Maybe it was the great Ruben Olivares greatest performance.

[oogiebe]

Maybe it was the great Ruben Olivares greatest performance.

You need to watch more Olivares fights. You won't be sorry.

Castillo
Kanazawa
Chacon
Etc.

[handsofstone]

Ruben Olivares vs Efren Torres



Olivares KOs Torres in the 4th round of a non title fight, another fun wee scrap, things started off fairly quiet until the end of the 1st when Olivares buckled the legs of Torres with a big left, that was a taste of things to come for Torres who took a hellacious beating in the 2nd, down twice, firstly courtesy of a superb left uppercut, Torres took an absolute pasting to head and body, showed incredible durability before finally going down again from a quality right/left of Olivares

Things did quieten down a bit in the 3rd whilst Torres recovered and by the 4th Torres was coming into the fight, he landed a massive right on Olivares but it just bounced off his chin, within 30 seconds it was over, Olivares caught Torres flush with a massive left hook and he collapsed face first, out

[chrisjs1985]

You need to watch more Olivares fights. You won't be sorry.

Castillo
Kanazawa
Chacon
Etc.

Olivares is one of my favorite fighters to re-watch. Never disappoints if you are doing his career or simply pick a random fight. Excellent skill and left hand plus frightening power.

I love the fights you mentioned and agree with his assessment that the Rose bout was his finest performance. Rose was a brilliant fighter maybe would have been great but for Olivares. It's a travesty he's not inducted in the IBHOF for me. I also loved Ruben's boxing and banging in the Pimentel fight though Jesus was probably a little long in the tooth by then. The Hafey re-match may not be his finest hour but the bout had great boxing from him and late, great drama.

[handsofstone]

Ruben Olivares vs Bobby Chacon 1, 2+3


Olivares stops Chacon after 9 rounds of their first fight, a non title affair, good little tussle, both guys known for their aggression playing things fairly cool, thinking about what they were doing, Chacon the slight aggressor in the early stages, he was the one on the front foot but as far a punches landed there wasn't much in it for the first 7 or so rounds apart from when Chacon's legs dipped after getting tagged at the end of the 4th, both men showing plenty thought, pumping out the jab, right hands and hooks to the body, pretty even contest, in the 9th however right at the beginning of the round Olivares caught Chacon with a big right which put him flat on his back, he did get up but he took a bit of a pounding for the rest of the round, mainly backed on the ropes, he did try to fight back but there was nothing on his shots, still it was a surprise to see him pulled out on his stool


Olivares blitzed Chacon in the 2nd round of the rematch to become World Featherweight champ, fairly quiet 1st round but Chacon was down twice in the 2nd before being stopped, Olivares shook him with a right hand and follow up 1/2 had Chacon down, another combination had Chacon down for a second time, he tried to fight it out but Olivares trapped him on the ropes and launched a 2 fisted assault when the ref stepped in, maybe a tad early but there was no complaints from Chacon


Chacon outpoints Olivares in their 3rd fight over 10 rounds close fight but I agree Chacon deserved it, he had Olivares down in the 2nd but it looked more of a balance issue as he worked Olivares body with shots that didn't look that hard, both guys stood and traded in the first half of the fight and it was a good watch with not much to split them, in the second half Chacon started to box Olivares on the back foot countering effectively and Olivares himself wasn't as effective as he had been and was getting countered with sharp combinations, Olivares as ever kept pressing and he made Chacon work for his win but although he had a good last round it was Chacon who won a UD

[oogiebe]

While Olivares among my top five favorites, Chacon was a favorite of mine in the seventies. Some good fights between the two. I can watch Olivares all day long.

[Scypion]

Rubin Carter vs Jimmy Ellis



Carter outpoints a young up and coming Ellis in a non title Middleweight contest over 10 rounds, Ellis was never a big Heavyweight but I never knew he started off at 160 especially considering he was outmuscled from Carter whos like a bull, throws every shot with bad intentions and even the ones that are partially blocked looked hurtful, his jab was excellent, it was strong and he used it constantly, Carter had Ellis down at the end of the 4th with a right hand, not enough time left in the round to capatalise and Ellis took it well TBF

I think Ellis could've made this easier for himself by using his height and reach along with his legs to outbox Carter but he chose to try match Carter punch for punch and although he landed the jab and occasional right hand, it was Carter who was enjoyed the most success, the jab along with the body punches up close making the difference

In my humble opinion, I think that Jimmy Ellis would have been better served to start off in the light heavyweight division. I think that he was too tall to be a middleweight. He looked skinny to me.

He should have started off somewhere in the 160's and with easier fights and gradually working up to fighting contenders at about 175, kind of like Patterson did.

[Scypion]

In my humble opinion, I think that Jimmy Ellis would have been better served to start off in the light heavyweight division. I think that he was too tall to be a middleweight. He looked skinny to me.

He should have started off somewhere in the 160's and with easier fights and gradually working up to fighting contenders at about 175, kind of like Patterson did.

Funny thing. I recently watched the Patterson - Ellis fight and Ellis looked much bigger than Patterson. Yet, Patterson turned pro in the light heavyweight division at 17 years of age and Ellis turned pro in the middleweight division at age 21.

Go figure.

[Woldemar]

Chacon vs Boza-Edwards II

Great fight but i don't agree with decision

IMO Boza won by close decision or draw.

[oogiebe]

Chacon vs Boza-Edwards II

Great fight but i don't agree with decision

IMO Boza won by close decision or draw.

Could be...Chacon was a bit of a 'darling' in California and Vegas.

[Onetimeonly]

Chacon vs Boza-Edwards II

Great fight but i don't agree with decision

IMO Boza won by close decision or draw.

I thought boza won too. The bookend kds weren't worth 8 points.

[Ambling Alp II]

I remember watching that fight on Tv. I have mentioned it several times over the years and it often seemed like I was the only who saw it.

A lot of great action. In those first two rounds, Boza-Edwards was having good rounds until the knockdowns. Always wondered how things could have been different if Boza-Edwards would have got the decision. Boza-Edwards might be the HOF Famer instead of Chacon. I think they were about as even of fighters as you are going to get.

[Woldemar]

Mccallum vs Kalambay 1,2

First fight for me the best fight Sumbu Kalambay in career.Good boxing skill,nice counterpunches .He outbox McCallum as well.

In second fight McCallum was better than in first fight ,Kalambay was not good than in first.But bout was close,and i agree with decision.

Lockridge vs Boza

Close,close fight.95-94 Lockridge my scorecard .

[chrisjs1985]

Decided to watch a number of excellent late 90's lightweight fights.

Angel Manfredy vs. Arturo Gatti - Manfredy starts well by cutting Gatti in round 1, beating him up a little in round 2 and dropping him in round 3. Gatti came back well to the body in the 4th and makes a fight out of it before he's stopped on that gory cut. Gatti looks a full weight class bigger than Manfredy but Manfredy was sharp with his right and used his superior skill to have the edge.

Ivan Robinson-Arturo Gatti I & II - Both blistering fights with a lot of drama. The first was the better and closer of the two. Robinson too skilled and was so busy and accurate but Gatti the heavier puncher got his way back into both fights. Fight I had the drama of Robinson starting fast battering Gatti then getting dropped. The drama in the 10th round is epic with Gatti hurting Robinson badly but running out of time. The re-match was more one-sided than I remembered with Robinson arguably winning the first 7 rounds.

[Counter-puncher]

Decided to watch a number of excellent late 90's lightweight fights.

Angel Manfredy vs. Arturo Gatti - Manfredy starts well by cutting Gatti in round 1, beating him up a little in round 2 and dropping him in round 3. Gatti came back well to the body in the 4th and makes a fight out of it before he's stopped on that gory cut. Gatti looks a full weight class bigger than Manfredy but Manfredy was sharp with his right and used his superior skill to have the edge.

i watched this recently, fun fight.