Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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Last hour predictions?

Poll ended at 21 Apr 2019, 18:50

Crawford - Decision
0
No votes
Crawford - T/KO
16
80%
DRAW
1
5%
Khan - T/KO
1
5%
Khan - Decision
2
10%
 
Total votes: 20

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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Post by Thomastearns »

Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 10:16

So are low blows are OK now and disqualifications no longer allowed in big fights?

Just what led Crawford to go that low in a fight he was cruising? That's the question, not Khan quitting.

What happens if Jacobs or Canelo were to land a similar blow in their matchup a fortnight away? Does Danny Jacobs get a disqualification or a warning for a similar foul?

I think we already know the answer if Canelo lands the low blow. The referee will check he didn't hurt his hand and give Saul a full five minutes to recover. Only fair.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Post by SenorPipino »

Since when is ONE low blow cause for a DQ?

Was Crawford consistently throwing low blows throughout the fight?

Was he warned for low blows?

It was accidental and was treated as such.

The burden was then on Khan to either take 5 or do a no mas.

He chose the later. His own trainer isn't squawking about it. He knew Khan had had enough.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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To me what was odd about the situation was the referee's behavior. Instead of telling him to take up to five minutes to recover, he was immediately in his face asking if he could continue. And it looked to me like Khan was just like "uh, I'm in a lot of pain right now." Then next thing I knew they were stopping the fight.
Of course, it was the same result that was on its way one way or another. But it gave the unsatisfying impression that an illegal blow led to the TKO.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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squiggy wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 12:24 To me what was odd about the situation was the referee's behavior. Instead of telling him to take up to five minutes to recover, he was immediately in his face asking if he could continue. And it looked to me like Khan was just like "uh, I'm in a lot of pain right now." Then next thing I knew they were stopping the fight.
Of course, it was the same result that was on its way one way or another. But it gave the unsatisfying impression that an illegal blow led to the TKO.
I heard hunter continuously asking him if he wanted to continue and Khan said no. Definitely hate to see a fight end like that. I agree it was an odd scene.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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Onetimeonly wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 12:27 I heard hunter continuously asking him if he wanted to continue and Khan said no. Definitely hate to see a fight end like that. I agree it was an odd scene.
The question is why Hunter started asking that question long before the 5 minutes ended? He needed to tell Khan to take 5 minutes and then decide. Of course, the final outcome was clear at the time, but it was also pretty clear before the fight.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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He basically came off like he hadn't seen the low blow.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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boxing_rocks wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 12:42 The question is why Hunter started asking that question long before the 5 minutes ended? He needed to tell Khan to take 5 minutes and then decide. Of course, the final outcome was clear at the time, but it was also pretty clear before the fight.
I guess he didn't want him concussed again.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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Thomastearns wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 10:43 So are low blows are OK now and disqualifications no longer allowed in big fights?

Just what led Crawford to go that low in a fight he was cruising? That's the question, not Khan quitting.

What happens if Jacobs or Canelo were to land a similar blow in their matchup a fortnight away? Does Danny Jacobs get a disqualification or a warning for a similar foul?

I think we already know the answer if Canelo lands the low blow. The referee will check he didn't hurt his hand and give Saul a full five minutes to recover. Only fair.
Here's the rule;

. A fighter who is hit with an accidental low blow must continue after a reasonable amount of time but no more that five (5) minutes, or he/she will lose the bout by abandonment


The ref knew the shot was low but wasn't particularly severe. Khan could've got time but he clearly indicated he didn't want to continue: so he lost by quitting.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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RKY wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 13:19 Here's the rule;

. A fighter who is hit with an accidental low blow must continue after a reasonable amount of time but no more that five (5) minutes, or he/she will lose the bout by abandonment


The ref knew the shot was low but wasn't particularly severe. Khan could've got time but he clearly indicated he didn't want to continue: so he lost by quitting.
Thanks for the clarification!

The rule seems unfair to the victim. Just feels like there's been too many 'accidental' low blows in recent big fights (Loma, Kovalev and now Khan).
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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Thomastearns wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 15:37 Thanks for the clarification!

The rule seems unfair to the victim. Just feels like there's been too many 'accidental' low blows in recent big fights (Loma, Kovalev and now Khan).
This was the same as Khan/Judah.(though last night's punch was more severe)He could have taken the time but he didn't want too.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 10:21
Looked like he got hit with more than just a low blow.

But for real though, does anyone remember when Khan KO'd Judah with a low blow? Did Khan give Judah a rematch? What goes around comes around.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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Thomastearns wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 10:43 So are low blows are OK now and disqualifications no longer allowed in big fights?

Just what led Crawford to go that low in a fight he was cruising? That's the question, not Khan quitting.

What happens if Jacobs or Canelo were to land a similar blow in their matchup a fortnight away? Does Danny Jacobs get a disqualification or a warning for a similar foul?

I think we already know the answer if Canelo lands the low blow. The referee will check he didn't hurt his hand and give Saul a full five minutes to recover. Only fair.
It was okay when Khan KO'd Judah with a low blow.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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Back in 1930 when the NYSAC first passed its low blow rule (in reaction to the Sharkey-Schmeling mess) it was decided that a fighter who receives a low blow must stand up on his own accord or the referee is to count him out. *** Once on his feet the fouled fighter is then entitled to a rest period; if he refuses to continue then he loses by TKO. The fighter throwing the low blow loses the round.

This rule change caused quite a few complaints and the cliche of the day was: "Foul lightly and lose the round, foul hard and win the fight."

It looks as though nothing substantial has changed.

*** This was to try to weed out the fakes which were becoming commonplace. (I am not really sure how the logic works but it was the NYSAC's call.)

P.S. It was also after this rule change that fighters for the first time (in New York) were allowed to wear a protective belt. That rule change caused many a complaint as well, with many believing that the protective belt would encourage low blows (poor sportsmanship). To the fan of the day, wearing a protective belt was no different than a fighter wearing sparing head gear, to them it was ruining the game.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

Post by Enlightened-One »

I’ve finally watched the fight and as talented as Crawford may be, his performance against Amir Khan wasn’t particularly impressive.

Crawford’s a bit of a weight bully, but he won’t possess a size over Errol Spence Jr. that he had with Amir Khan.

I’m a huge fan of Crawford, but I can’t applaud him for his performance against Amir Khan.

I honestly feel that Amir Khan made Terence Crawford appear ordinary.

The Brit had become increasingly competitive as the fight wore on, obviously until the appallingly bad low blow ended the bout.

Crawford may have won the fight regardless, but he looked less than impressive.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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Enlightened-One wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 17:11 I’ve finally watched the fight and as talented as Crawford may be, his performance against Amir Khan wasn’t particularly impressive.

Crawford’s a bit of a weight bully, but he won’t possess a size over Errol Spence Jr. that he had with Amir Khan.

I’m a huge fan of Crawford, but I can’t applaud him for his performance against Amir Khan.

I honestly feel that Amir Khan made Terence Crawford appear ordinary.

The Brit had become increasingly competitive as the fight wore on, obviously until the appallingly bad low blow ended the bout.

Crawford may have won the fight regardless, but he looked less than impressive.
Crawford a weight bully? :lol:
This is like his 3rd fight at welterweight. He hasn't spent more than a year at welterweight. Khan has fought at welter for the past 5 years and fought bigger guys than Crawford..

And no, Khan didn't make Crawford look ordinary. Crawford was beating Khan up more than Canelo was and let's not forget, Khan has never really been dominated on a round to round basis.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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IKSRTFO wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 17:18 Crawford a weight bully? :lol:
This is like his 3rd fight at welterweight. He hasn't spent more than a year at welterweight. Khan has fought at welter for the past 5 years and fought bigger guys than Crawford..

And no, Khan didn't make Crawford look ordinary. Crawford was beating Khan up more than Canelo was and let's not forget, Khan has never really been dominated on a round to round basis.
I've never seen Khan beat up like that. It was terribly one-sided.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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Thomastearns wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 15:37 Thanks for the clarification!

The rule seems unfair to the victim. Just feels like there's been too many 'accidental' low blows in recent big fights (Loma, Kovalev and now Khan).
Crawford's not even that big at WW, and hes battered bigger men like Horn and Benavidez. "weight bully" :lol:

Fergus has such terrible boxing knowledge for a guy that posts so much. You'd give him a pass if he was a casual dropping in, but he's on at least his 2nd account and thousands of posts.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 17:19 I've never seen Khan beat up like that. It was terribly one-sided.

:TU:
Khan usually does well until he gets KO'd. And while he has lapses in boxing IQ, he still is a silver medalist.

Crawford has beaten two gold medalists and a silver medalist.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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RKY wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 18:55 Crawford's not even that big at WW, and hes battered bigger men like Horn and Benavidez. "weight bully" :lol:

Fergus has such terrible boxing knowledge for a guy that posts so much. You'd give him a pass if he was a casual dropping in, but he's on at least his 2nd account and thousands of posts.
Who's Fergus? :maybe:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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Any fúckér thinks I’m wrong about Terence Crawford being an absolutely fúckíng massive welterweight needs to check his typical rehydration weight for his 140lbs bouts. The fúckér weighed 177lbs shortly after his 140lbs bout against Julius Indongo (which is heavier than what Kell Brook weighed at the 30-day weigh-in for his middleweight fight against GGG).

Anybody wants to debate this topic with me better do their research or they’re going to get fúcking embarrassed!

Please bring it on if anyone dares to claim I’m wrong about this! Pretty please, please... bring it on!!!

Come on, I'm looking forward to this! Someone please pretend I'm wrong!

I strongly suspect that my challenge will be met by silence though, even though many people in this thread have the sheer audacity to pretend that Crawford is a small welterweight, when this is clearly not the case! FFS! :brick:

I really do want someone to be brave enough to engage in this argument with me, because I’m fúckíng pig sick of stupid fúckíng myths being constantly perpetuated that are blatantly untrue. :doh:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 18:58 Who's Fergus? :maybe:
Unenlightened One.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan - April 20, 2019

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RKY wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 19:14 Unenlightened One.
You pretend that Crawford isn't a weight bully. Are you brave enough to debate this topic with me or are you going to be a lazy fúckér and just insult me, simply because you're powerless to defend your claims?

I really need you to bring it on, because this'll be the easiest debate to win! :clap:

Come one kid, show some guts! Let’s see what you’re capable of? Can you refute my claim about Crawford being a large welterweight or are you going to remain silent purely out of cowardice? :lol:

I've already got loads of some of my old posts and website links prepared to refute any counter-arguments, I just need someone stupid enough to debate this topic with me!!!
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