Claressa Shields: ‘I’d give GGG a run for his money’

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Best Coast wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 22:59 Glad you brought up track & field!! :TU:

In every sport where performance can be objectively measured in time or distance (track, field, swimming), women lag FAR behind men. The current women's world record for 200 meters is 21.34. In 1923 a guy set the world record at 21.0. So at 200 meter sprinting women are about 96 years behind men. :lol:

In swimming world records the male/female difference is not as great (possibly because women have higher % of body fat which increases buoyancy in water). In the 100 freestyle swim the womens' world record is where the men's record was in 1970, so women are "only" 49 years behind men in swimming.
:doh:
I actually had a look into some of the comparisons myself a little while ago. The women's 100m sprint world record doesn't get past the male qualifiers at the Olympics.
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She’s an idiot. I can’t stand her and can’t wait until she loses.
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The higher ups in boxing probably see the success women have been having in MMA and are now trying to follow suit. Sure there was the Christie Martin’s and Laila Ali’s of the past but I think all these female MMA stars and people are trying to spark something with boxing now too
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I don't take the GGG and I can beat males quotes very seriously.

She has already accomplished her goal: she has boxing fans talking about her. The more fans talk about woman's boxing, the better it is for woman's boxing, regardless of what they say and she knows this.
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Tony1244 wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 10:57 I don't take the GGG and I can beat males quotes very seriously.

She has already accomplished her goal: she has boxing fans talking about her. The more fans talk about woman's boxing, the better it is for woman's boxing, regardless of what they say and she knows this.
Fans may be talking but still aren't watching.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 11:56 Fans may be talking but still aren't watching.
LOL!! Very true. I routinely change the channel when a female fight is happening. I have absolutely zero interest. Unless it's Taylor and then only to ogle her physique.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 11:56 Fans may be talking but still aren't watching.
My interest is minimal. I had a tiny bit of interest in Shields vs Hammer for the obvious reasons.
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Tony1244 wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:17 My interest is minimal. I had a tiny bit of interest in Shields vs Hammer for the obvious reasons.
I used to watch Layla Ali. Woman's boxing just doesn't get me going. Woman's football doesn't do it either. I like Woman's basketball and tennis though.
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Tony1244 wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:17 My interest is minimal. I had a tiny bit of interest in Shields vs Hammer for the obvious reasons.
I thought I did until I deleted it after a minute.
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Tony1244 wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 10:57 I don't take the GGG and I can beat males quotes very seriously.

She has already accomplished her goal: she has boxing fans talking about her. The more fans talk about woman's boxing, the better it is for woman's boxing, regardless of what they say and she knows this.
her goal? how do u know shes not simply delusional and really thinks she could beat these top guys? honestly she seems to have a chip on her shoulder about being a female boxer, shes been going on about this stuff for years back in the ams. she was even jawing at kov that she could beat him

and ya, i dont know that saying she cud beat men is really gonna attract a bunch of men to watch her, her tv numbers were pretty low for what showtime hyped as a female mega fight. undisputed female title, a bunch of hype and lead up shows, the best opponent out there, and then it does low hundred ks and actually down from previous numbers
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her best way to get more attention wud be to start training mma, go the ufc, and wear skimpy athletic shorts that show off that big fat ass of hers
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jamamb wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:32 her best way to get more attention wud be to start training mma, go the ufc, and wear skimpy athletic shorts that show off that big fat ass of hers
:lol: :lol:
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jamamb wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:32 her best way to get more attention wud be to start training mma, go the ufc, and wear skimpy athletic shorts that show off that big fat ass of hers
She's too heavy for the UFC.
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baby gurl needs to shed some tire then

although maybe even with a 2nd tier mma organization shed get moar attention
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jamamb wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:38 baby gurl needs to shed some tire then

although maybe even with a 2nd tier mma organization shed get moar attention
For sure. The pfl has a 155lb woman's tournament and the winner gets a million bucks. They have an Olympic wrestler that would smash her but woman's mma is miles more respected and entertaining.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:35 She's too heavy for the UFC.
:lol:
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jamamb wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:27 her goal? how do u know shes not simply delusional and really thinks she could beat these top guys? honestly she seems to have a chip on her shoulder about being a female boxer, shes been going on about this stuff for years back in the ams. she was even jawing at kov that she could beat him

and ya, i dont know that saying she cud beat men is really gonna attract a bunch of men to watch her, her tv numbers were pretty low for what showtime hyped as a female mega fight. undisputed female title, a bunch of hype and lead up shows, the best opponent out there, and then it does low hundred ks and actually down from previous numbers
Maybe she is delusional. I guess that's possible. I sure don't know her or anyone who knows her. Whether it's the old Gorgeous George act which is make them hate you so they buy a ticket or tune in to see you get beat or that she is truly delusional I do think there'd be an uptick in people watching her.

There are 3 pages here mostly on how everyone hates her and talks about how nuts she is, and maybe she is nuts. :lol:

My point is simple: Let's say she fights a woman who actually knocks women out. Her moronic I can beat GGG talk will only increase viewership because people want to see her get beat.
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How many comments are there belittling her achievements and sport?
It shows how in general men are so threatened by the rise of women
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samdance wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 15:16 How many comments are there belittling her achievements and sport?
It shows how in general men are so threatened by the rise of women
She has certainly had a great career. I still don't like woman's boxing. I do however like woman's basketball; MMA; Tennis; and other sports. Woman's boxing just sucks.
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oogiebe wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 15:18 She has certainly had a great career. I still don't like woman's boxing. I do however like woman's basketball; MMA; Tennis; and other sports. Woman's boxing just sucks.
Agreed, except for basketball. That sucks too.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 15:21 Agreed, except for basketball. That sucks too.
I like it. Especially college.
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It's like anything else; if you don't like it, don't watch it. I was way more interested in Ruiz- Dimitrenko than Shields-Hammer and that says quite a bit. :lol:

But am I more interested in a woman's super fight than I am in a men's Jr. Featherweight contest when both men have low KO rates? Yes. Does the 8 pages on Shilelds vs Hammer on p. 2 and the 4 pages here on page 1 mean boxing fans are thinking about this, albeit mostly negatively? Yes, again..
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Tony1244 wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 16:42 It's like anything else; if you don't like it, don't watch it. I was way more interested in Ruiz- Dimitrenko than Shields-Hammer and that says quite a bit. :lol:

But am I more interested in a woman's super fight than I am in a men's Jr. Featherweight contest when both men have low KO rates? Yes. Does the 8 pages on Shilelds vs Hammer on p. 2 and the 4 pages here on page 1 mean boxing fans are thinking about this, albeit mostly negatively? Yes, again..
Not saying women's boxing hasn't had their moments. Wolfe's Ko of Vanda was an all time great KO.
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oogiebe wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 16:44 Not saying women's boxing hasn't had their moments. Wolfe's Ko of Vanda was an all time great KO.
I don't classify myself as a woman's boxing fan at all and certainly don't negatively judge anyone who won't watch it. Even though I will watch, but not pay for, a woman's "super fight."

My only point is the more I read, "she's insane....I can't stand her........she's delusional....." the more convinced I am those folks will sneak a look at her fights hoping she gets beat.
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Tony1244 wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 16:50 I don't classify myself as a woman's boxing fan at all and certainly don't negatively judge anyone who won't watch it. Even though I will watch, but not pay for, a woman's "super fight."

My only point is the more I read, "she's insane....I can't stand her........she's delusional....." the more convinced I am those folks will sneak a look at her fights hoping she gets beat.
well, you cannot take those comments of hers without a huge grain of salt. Let's be honest here.
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