Ray Leonard vs. Hector Camacho

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 21 May 2006, 15:54

How and why the hell did this happen?

A guy who started his career in 1980 as a superfeatherweight against a guy who started his career in the 70's as a welterweight end up fighting in 1997 as middleweights?

Did these fight make alot of money?

Did it bring in alot of ppv buys?

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 21 May 2006, 15:58

I thought the personal hostility between these two guys was known to everyone. Leanord was happy to fight him just to let off steam. Money was made as well but I don't think it was much more than a bad blood situation. Probably made it worth it just to have a chance to give him a couple of busts to the chops. In their primes of course it would have been quite a different outcome.

generic screen name · Post by **generic screen name** » 24 May 2006, 01:35

Easily one of the worst comebacks in the history of boxing. I remembered Leonard being interviewed saying he was influenced by Foreman's comeback.

barry · Post by **barry** » 24 May 2006, 01:57

Yeah...there were several other 40-something fighters who were wrongly inspired by Big George to come back an take a beating. There were several former top fighter who tried the late comeback and failed miserably...Danny Lopez, Ruben Olivares, Pipino Cuevas, Ray Mancini

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 24 May 2006, 07:20

Woah hold on here....are you saying fighters past their forties are not all that they ought to be?

wouter · Post by **wouter** » 24 May 2006, 09:44

Decagon wrote:George Foreman inspired thousands of boxers in their 40s to make comebacks. Most of them ended just the way Leonard-Camacho did, but in much smaller venues, with hardly anyone watching.

Thousands??

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 24 May 2006, 12:59

Didn't Leonard blame the lose on a calf injury?

barry · Post by **barry** » 24 May 2006, 13:01

I though the comeback against Norris was bad...the comeback against Camacho was a travesty and a loss that Leonard should never have tried.

zojo · Post by **zojo** » 24 May 2006, 13:14

I don't know why Ray decided to fight a southpaw after so much time off. He struggled with the south-paw stance.

Comparing Foreman to those other guys is hard to do. Many of the comback fighters listed tried to recapture their glory days by fighting the same way they did in their prime (just slower, weaker, and less reflexes).

George on the other hand changed his style once he came back. He realized he was not the George of the'70s. Therefore, he hired Archie Moore (the best senior fighter ever) and learned how to adapt to his age (cross-armed defense) than the way he fought back in his prime.

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 24 May 2006, 15:22

Best thing Camacho ever did, KO SRL. Goofy ass southpaw. :(