He's all-time great IMO. Like an angry may weather with not quite the defense.
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Crawford has kept improving from fight to fight. He's also got a bit bigger and stronger. The guy who came over and went the distance with Ricky Burns in a pretty uneventful fight is not the same guy who dealt with Khan. I don't think Spence has too much of a shot, and I'm a pretty big fan of Spence. Crawford just seems a bit too versatile and hits hard enough to keep anyone at 147 honest. I also like to see a mean streak in a fighter and we see that in Crawford. He even enjoyed taunting Khan in the press conference after the fight and calling him a quitter. I don't think it's the classiest conduct but given that Khan clearly did quit and was trying to mug the public off by claiming he didn't, I can't fault Crawford there.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑21 Apr 2019, 23:30 He's all-time great IMO. Like an angry may weather with not quite the defense.
Spence vs Crawford is one of the best fights that can be made and one I would be looking forward to seeing. Taylor vs Prograis is another. I'm also curious to see Usyk against Wilder, Fury or Joshua. I have a sneaking suspicion he would school each one of them. But certainly Crawford vs Spence is a fight that should be made. Crawford can go up to 154 and dominate there too for me. The only real thing of concern is that Gamboa did have him going and visibly hurt but Gamboa was a special talent in many respects.
Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Good post. Agree with a lot you've said thereTheLeprechaun wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 00:32 Crawford has kept improving from fight to fight. He's also got a bit bigger and stronger. The guy who came over and went the distance with Ricky Burns in a pretty uneventful fight is not the same guy who dealt with Khan. I don't think Spence has too much of a shot, and I'm a pretty big fan of Spence. Crawford just seems a bit too versatile and hits hard enough to keep anyone at 147 honest. I also like to see a mean streak in a fighter and we see that in Crawford. He even enjoyed taunting Khan in the press conference after the fight and calling him a quitter. I don't think it's the classiest conduct but given that Khan clearly did quit and was trying to mug the public off by claiming he didn't, I can't fault Crawford there.
Spence vs Crawford is one of the best fights that can be made and one I would be looking forward to seeing. Taylor vs Prograis is another. I'm also curious to see Usyk against Wilder, Fury or Joshua. I have a sneaking suspicion he would school each one of them. But certainly Crawford vs Spence is a fight that should be made. Crawford can go up to 154 and dominate there too for me. The only real thing of concern is that Gamboa did have him going and visibly hurt but Gamboa was a special talent in many respects.
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Agree completely, I've had them 1-2 in the meaningless but fun to bicker about rankings for a couple years.TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 00:32 Crawford has kept improving from fight to fight. He's also got a bit bigger and stronger. The guy who came over and went the distance with Ricky Burns in a pretty uneventful fight is not the same guy who dealt with Khan. I don't think Spence has too much of a shot, and I'm a pretty big fan of Spence. Crawford just seems a bit too versatile and hits hard enough to keep anyone at 147 honest. I also like to see a mean streak in a fighter and we see that in Crawford. He even enjoyed taunting Khan in the press conference after the fight and calling him a quitter. I don't think it's the classiest conduct but given that Khan clearly did quit and was trying to mug the public off by claiming he didn't, I can't fault Crawford there.
Spence vs Crawford is one of the best fights that can be made and one I would be looking forward to seeing. Taylor vs Prograis is another. I'm also curious to see Usyk against Wilder, Fury or Joshua. I have a sneaking suspicion he would school each one of them. But certainly Crawford vs Spence is a fight that should be made. Crawford can go up to 154 and dominate there too for me. The only real thing of concern is that Gamboa did have him going and visibly hurt but Gamboa was a special talent in many respects.
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
I actually felt Crawford was holding quite a lot back against Burns, maybe because it was his first proper fight at world level. I thought at the time that he could have stepped it up significantly if he’d wanted to.
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Yeah i remember thinking his performance wasn't really that impressive, taking into account how limited Burns always was at world levelBoxerbeetle wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 03:56 I actually felt Crawford was holding quite a lot back against Burns, maybe because it was his first proper fight at world level. I thought at the time that he could have stepped it up significantly if he’d wanted to.
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Yeah, thinking about it now, Khan couldn't handle being outboxed, usually he's lost when he's ahead, this time it was just a sustained solid whupping, and he was making zero headway into the bout.
The more I think about it, the more a punk I think he acted.
I'll confess I've never warmed to him, but he'd earned a reputation for being brittle but brave, but now he will be remembered as something rather different, and I'm afraid it's deserved.
It's interesting isn't it, someone mentioned Kostya Tszyu before, nobody as far as I recall has ever badmouthed him for quitting on his stool, and I think the same would perhaps have been true had Khan just been honest, and said he just didn't have what it takes any more to compete with Crawford.
We will have to listen to plenty more blathering nonsense from Khan as he makes excuse after excuse, but every time he opens his mouth, its another shovelful of dirt he's dug.
The more I think about it, the more a punk I think he acted.
I'll confess I've never warmed to him, but he'd earned a reputation for being brittle but brave, but now he will be remembered as something rather different, and I'm afraid it's deserved.
It's interesting isn't it, someone mentioned Kostya Tszyu before, nobody as far as I recall has ever badmouthed him for quitting on his stool, and I think the same would perhaps have been true had Khan just been honest, and said he just didn't have what it takes any more to compete with Crawford.
We will have to listen to plenty more blathering nonsense from Khan as he makes excuse after excuse, but every time he opens his mouth, its another shovelful of dirt he's dug.
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Yeah Tyson was like a man walking to the gallows that night, he damned well knew he had very little chance against Lewis that night, Lennox was right at his peak, and Mike was a long way down the other side of the hill by then; He'd essentially become a 3 round fighter, at least against decent opposition. Yet he trudged forward taking shot after shot from one of the hardest hitting heavyweights of all time.
Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Yeah Tyson was like a man walking to the gallows that night, he damned well knew he had very little chance against Lewis that night, Lennox was right at his peak, and Mike was a long way down the other side of the hill by then; He'd essentially become a 3 round fighter, at least against decent opposition. Yet he trudged forward taking shot after shot from one of the hardest hitting heavyweights of all time.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 07:36 [quote=oogiebe post_id=5141197 time=<a href="tel:1555851422">1555851422</a> user_id=53017]
Mike Tyson gained some respect from me when he stood in there and took his beating from LL. Khan avoided a beating rather than go out on his shield. A lifeteime's work on his rep was tarnished last night. Tarnished, not lost.
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Wlad managed the same against AJ, for all his career he was thought of as a guy who would swallow it when the going got tough ( after his Losses to Purity Brewster and Sanders-RIP) but he gained more respect from that AJ loss than from most of his wins.
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Wlad managed the same against AJ, for all his career he was thought of as a guy who would swallow it when the going got tough ( after his Losses to Purity Brewster and Sanders-RIP) but he gained more respect from that AJ loss than from most of his wins.knockout wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 07:47 Yeah Tyson was like a man walking to the gallows that night, he damned well knew he had very little chance against Lewis that night, Lennox was right at his peak, and Mike was a long way down the other side of the hill by then; He'd essentially become a 3 round fighter, at least against decent opposition. Yet he trudged forward taking shot after shot from one of the hardest hitting heavyweights of all time.
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Wlad was within a whisker of winning though, that was the difference, I think he went into that fight with a winner's mentality, and certainly fought like it. The irony was his natural caution proved his undoing, an exhausted Joshua was really there for the taking, he could barely raise his arms, but Wlad gave him enough time to recover, and was ultimately undone by his own innate circumspect nature.
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Just found this gem from the BBC site, this is from Barry McGuigan, but could easily be out of Khan's mouth it's so dumb.
Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live's Sportsweek programme, McGuigan said: "You look at Khan's career and the fights he's been in and the one thing he always had was immense courage, determination and getting up off the floor.
"You think of the Breidis Prescott fight, the Canelo (Alvarez) fight, the Danny Garcia fight - there's no quit in him.
"I just think he took the intelligent option and got out because he was down.
So he didn't quit, he just chose not to continue, ummm. OK.
Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live's Sportsweek programme, McGuigan said: "You look at Khan's career and the fights he's been in and the one thing he always had was immense courage, determination and getting up off the floor.
"You think of the Breidis Prescott fight, the Canelo (Alvarez) fight, the Danny Garcia fight - there's no quit in him.
"I just think he took the intelligent option and got out because he was down.
So he didn't quit, he just chose not to continue, ummm. OK.
Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
I heard the programme and had to listen to it again later to make sure I'd heard it right - such was the jibberish McGuigan was spouting.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 07:53 Just found this gem from the BBC site, this is from Barry McGuigan, but could easily be out of Khan's mouth it's so dumb.
Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live's Sportsweek programme, McGuigan said: "You look at Khan's career and the fights he's been in and the one thing he always had was immense courage, determination and getting up off the floor.
"You think of the Breidis Prescott fight, the Canelo (Alvarez) fight, the Danny Garcia fight - there's no quit in him.
"I just think he took the intelligent option and got out because he was down.
So he didn't quit, he just chose not to continue, ummm. OK.![]()
Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
..I don't mind occasionally watching Khan in the ring..but listening to him talking? 
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
The Five Live podcast is a fcking gem, Khan tells Costello that he did not quit but he got hurt and they decided to not carry on. Uhm, that is quitting you twat.
He also says that his recollection of what the ref said was asking if he was ok, then saying he had five minutes to recover, then in the next breath he says he did not know he had five minutes and would have taken it if he knew. And Costello does not pick him up on that bullshit.
I normally enjoy this podcast (if I ignore Bunce wheezing and squeeking like a teenage girl and repeating "I am not being an aftertimer.....let's tell it as it is.....") but they dropped the ball here. Saying he did not quit and making a load of excuses. Tongues too firmly up his arse.
He also says that his recollection of what the ref said was asking if he was ok, then saying he had five minutes to recover, then in the next breath he says he did not know he had five minutes and would have taken it if he knew. And Costello does not pick him up on that bullshit.
I normally enjoy this podcast (if I ignore Bunce wheezing and squeeking like a teenage girl and repeating "I am not being an aftertimer.....let's tell it as it is.....") but they dropped the ball here. Saying he did not quit and making a load of excuses. Tongues too firmly up his arse.
Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Khan did quit but he's as brave as they come. He was losing and he knew that soon he'd be stopped so he took advantage and lived to fight another day. Without the low blow he'd have been koed and wouldn't have quit on his stool or gone down soft.
Crawford outclassed him. Those body shots looked painful too.
Crawford outclassed him. Those body shots looked painful too.
Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Khan's a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Richie Woodhall put it best in the Studio afterwards; If Khan took that low blow in a fight he was winning he'd certainly continue.
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
He really is a lying bellend
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
the one at 15 seconds doesnt look low to me. id have to see another angle to be sure
the one at 40 is low though not right on the crotch/balls
the one at 40 is low though not right on the crotch/balls
Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
Agreed. Wlad screwed up big style, he could and should have finished Joshua. Lacked killer instinct.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 07:52Wlad was within a whisker of winning though, that was the difference, I think he went into that fight with a winner's mentality, and certainly fought like it. The irony was his natural caution proved his undoing, an exhausted Joshua was really there for the taking, he could barely raise his arms, but Wlad gave him enough time to recover, and was ultimately undone by his own innate circumspect nature.
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Khan was getting the crap kicked out of him and found a way to stop the carnage. I've never seen him beaten up like that before. Being sparked and getting beaten up are very different. It was a new experience for him and the 'low-blow' gave him an out.
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Exactly what I was saying. It is on the Five Live podcast, hilarious.
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
He isn't the brightest is he.
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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"
it's a combination of both the referee not giving him the time and khan swallowing it.
think he knew he wasn't getting into that fight and got a way out.
at the same time the ref was right up to him and asking him if he could continue.
khan did come right onto it so i'm not doubting how painful it was.
he ain't the first or last fighter to quit.
someone should do a thread on the worst quit jobs now.
chavez in the 2nd fight with randall is my pick.
think he knew he wasn't getting into that fight and got a way out.
at the same time the ref was right up to him and asking him if he could continue.
khan did come right onto it so i'm not doubting how painful it was.
he ain't the first or last fighter to quit.
someone should do a thread on the worst quit jobs now.
chavez in the 2nd fight with randall is my pick.