List fighters with a better resume than Floyd Mayweather

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Barra wrote: 22 Apr 2019, 17:16 Manny Pacquiao
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Onetimeonly wrote: 22 Apr 2019, 17:20:lol:
Pacquiao does have a better resume even though Floyd beat him head to head. It's forgotten Pacquiao had a hall of fame career before he even moved up to ww. He's the only one that beat Morales, Barrera, and Marquez and beat all of them twice.
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IKSRTFO wrote: 22 Apr 2019, 17:27 Pacquiao does have a better resume even though Floyd beat him head to head. It's forgotten Pacquiao had a hall of fame career before he even moved up to ww. He's the only one that beat Morales, Barrera, and Marquez and beat all of them twice.
No he doesn't. Floyd had a good career before he moved to ww too. I don't forget anything. I disliked both of them but Floyd sealed a close debate by dominating PAC h2h, not to mention canelo which looks better every day.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 22 Apr 2019, 17:44 No he doesn't. Floyd had a good career before he moved to ww too. I don't forget anything. I disliked both of them but Floyd sealed a close debate by dominating PAC h2h, not to mention canelo which looks better every day.
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If we talk about an undefeated fighter with a better resume than FMJ then we may don't have one. Resume-wise, maybe Usyk and Andre Ward are getting closer to FMJ, and with the mention that Usyk and Ward fought some prime-at the top of their game opponents.
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apollo creed wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 04:49 If we talk about an undefeated fighter with a better resume than FMJ then we may don't have one. Resume-wise, maybe Usyk and Andre Ward are getting closer to FMJ, and with the mention that Usyk and Ward fought some prime-at the top of their game opponents.
Ward falls well short. Usyk simply doesn't have as many fights or wins as Floyd but his biggest victories are greater achievements than any 1 of Floyd's wins I think though that's debatable.
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gilgamesh wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 22:48
apollo creed wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 04:49 If we talk about an undefeated fighter with a better resume than FMJ then we may don't have one. Resume-wise, maybe Usyk and Andre Ward are getting closer to FMJ, and with the mention that Usyk and Ward fought some prime-at the top of their game opponents.
Ward falls well short. Usyk simply doesn't have as many fights or wins as Floyd but his biggest victories are greater achievements than any 1 of Floyd's wins I think though that's debatable.
Well yeah, Ward had some quality wins but considering that he beat a drained Dawson and then he had some questionable wins vs Kovalev, it hurts his legacy.

About Usyk, lets not forget that he cleaned up a very competitive CW division.


IMO FMJ's best quality wins are:

Canelo
ODLH
Maidana
Cotto
Castillo
Baldomir
Mosley
Judah
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apollo creed wrote: 22 Dec 2024, 05:24
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 22:48
apollo creed wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 04:49 If we talk about an undefeated fighter with a better resume than FMJ then we may don't have one. Resume-wise, maybe Usyk and Andre Ward are getting closer to FMJ, and with the mention that Usyk and Ward fought some prime-at the top of their game opponents.
Ward falls well short. Usyk simply doesn't have as many fights or wins as Floyd but his biggest victories are greater achievements than any 1 of Floyd's wins I think though that's debatable.
Well yeah, Ward had some quality wins but considering that he beat a drained Dawson and then he had some questionable wins vs Kovalev, it hurts his legacy.

About Usyk, lets not forget that he cleaned up a very competitive CW division.


IMO FMJ's best quality wins are:

Canelo
ODLH
Maidana
Cotto
Castillo
Baldomir
Mosley
Judah
The Pac and Canelo wins are the ones that carry the most historical weight for Floyd.

De La Hoya is the one that pushed him into superstar status so that was a huge one for his career.

The 1st Maidana and Castillo fights are Floyd's toughest struggles, and IMO he lost those 2 fights. He won the rematches though, and it is to his massive credit that he fought immediate rematches in those cases when he really didn't have to.

I think the Juan Manuel Marquez victory looks really good for Floyd too because of the fact that Pac had a life and death struggle with Marquez every time he fought him, and Floyd pretty much just shut him out, and beat him with ease. So it's another thing that helps boost him over Pac.

The biggest drawback to Ward's legacy for me, is the fact that his 2 biggest wins are Kovalev and both of them are controversial. 1 is a decision he should've lost. 1 is a TKO he got on low blows. 2 wins officially, but he never really beat him.
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The issue with Floyd's resume isn't the names he fought but 1) when he fought those names and 2) under what conditions he fought them. Floyd was a shrewd businessman and often fought other big-name opponents at a time when their career was on the decline. The only undefeated fighters he faced in his career were Corrales, Hatton, and Canelo. And for that Canelo fight Floyd made sure to include clauses that made Canelo dehydrated af. But that was basically a move he would make for the majority of his career. Carefully planned and hand-picked opponents and picked refs that would give him certain advantages in fights. That's why his legacy is somewhat questionable by the people who actually followed his career closely back in the days (but weren't Floyd fanboys).
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