Poor Luis Ortiz

[boxing_rocks]

I'd ignore him, but it doesn't do the job well enough. Besides, I love when he gets all worked up! Like on that Woman's boxing rating thread. Classic it was. If only I weren't such a moron!

Shame on you. You have no compassion to the guy's mental condition.

[Enlightened-One]

I'd ignore him, but it doesn't do the job well enough. Besides, I love when he gets all worked up! Like on that Woman's boxing rating thread. Classic it was. If only I weren't such a moron!

From the perspective of mainstream casuals, Jarrell Miller is unbeaten, an excellent charismatic trash-talker, American and speaks English.

Luis Ortiz is none of those things. The Cuban is only appreciated by hard-core boxing aficionados.

DAZN and Matchroom would have been capable of generating more revenue with Miller facing AJ than Luis Ortiz would.

You can also review the Cuban’s typical paydays and career-high purse to realise his $10m demand was unrealistic.

[oogiebe]

Shame on you. You have no compassion to the guy's mental condition.

If he wasn't such a pompous and nasty little pudendum, I'd just ignore him. I wish he'd go to Bad Left Hook ...that's where he belongs.

[Enlightened-One]

Reports are circulating the web stating that Luis Ortiz was offered $5m for the AJ bout, but he rejected the offer, because he wanted $10m instead.

The Cuban’s alleged $10m demand is twenty times the size of his biggest ever purse, the $500K he received for the Wilder bout.

According to ESPN, Jarrell Miller was only meant to earn a guaranteed career-high purse of $4.875million for the Joshua fight, plus additional money from a percentage of UK pay-per-view profits.

If this information is true... and it’s being reported by lots of sources, it seems that the veteran Cuban has made the absurd decision to “duck”, by pricing himself out of the bout.

[Lenny Cravats]

I think E.O has finally lost it... posting the same thing 4 times? I don't get it. It's already in the thread from another poster

[oogiebe]

Seriously three identical posts!? Get the fvck out of here already!!!

[oogiebe]

I think E.O has finally lost it...

He's such an attention seeker! Just when you thought it was safe to go in the water!!!

[Enlightened-One]

I think E.O has finally lost it... posting the same thing 4 times? I don't get it. It's already in the thread from another poster

Trolls try to bury information that doesn’t portray their favourite fighter in a positive light, by posting copious amounts of insulting irrelevant comments to hide it. The offending info. that they dislike is then essentially ignored others, due to their red herring tactics.

The information hasn’t be posted previously. People wrongly claimed this to bury the info.

[Enlightened-One]

Reports are circulating the web stating that Luis Ortiz was offered $5m for the AJ bout, but he rejected the offer, because he wanted $10m instead.

The Cuban’s alleged $10m demand is twenty times the size of his biggest ever purse, the $500K he received for the Wilder bout.

According to ESPN, Jarrell Miller was only meant to earn a guaranteed career-high purse of $4.875million for the Joshua fight, plus additional money from a percentage of UK pay-per-view profits.

If this information is true... and it’s being reported by lots of sources, it seems that the veteran Cuban has made the absurd decision to “duck”, by pricing himself out of the bout.

[oogiebe]

I think E.O has finally lost it... posting the same thing 4 times? I don't get it. It's already in the thread from another poster

He is a disturbed individual. But...he makes me laugh. Too bad he's ruining another thread. I wonder if he reads these?

[Lenny Cravats]

He's such an attention seeker! Just when you thought it was safe to go in the water!!!

Aye. Won't scan through four pages for the information (I found out about the (alleged) offer and rejection within a minute of opening the thread) but will gladly spend longer than that being weird.

Though us two discussing him like this, whilst he reads along, is probably serving as good wanking material for him.

[oogiebe]

Aye. Won't scan through four pages for the information (I found out about the (alleged) offer and rejection within a minute of opening the thread) but will gladly spend longer than that being weird.

Though us two discussing him like this, whilst he reads along, is probably serving as good wanking material for him.

LMFAO!!! Yuck!! Bad mental picture!!! The narcissistic fvcttard.

[Lenny Cravats]

Ortiz said a few weeks ago if Miller was to pull out then he would step in for whatever money was offered, Miller pulls out and Eddie offers him 5 mill which is 4.5 mill more than he took for Wilder, now all of a sudden he wants 10, he's another cheating fake bullshitting phoney like the majority of them


Can anyone remind me why Ortiz deserves more than 5 or even 1 mill? He's a cheating pudendum whos best win is Jennings, he doesn't even deserve a shot he should be grateful, i'd rather see Joshua pull some Apollo Creed stunt and give Dave Allen a shot than that cheating fcvker a crack

Kownacki is still a pup so I can understand him biding his time fair enough but as for the likes of Ortiz, Fury and Whyte, maybe they should all get juiced to the gills and fight each other and the winner can fight Miller to see who the biggest cheating fvckker in the division is

Anoyne who claims to be a fan of a promoter needs their head examined but i do find myself sticking up for Hearn because guys like Haymon are a cancer to the sport, the guys never done an interview in his life and has a track record of stopping great match ups from happening yet people are so quick to defend him

If Eddie is so full of sh1t then why wont anyone prove it, he's the most public promoter in boxing, will answer questions on any subject, ive never seen Finkle or Arum call his bluff, just a load of vague nonsense, people were certain Hearn/Joshua were ducking Wilder, they called his bluff and Wilder went running behind uncle Al

IF you don't like Eddies personality fair enough, totally understandable but if your a fan of boxing then how can you defend these other charlatans

As for people hating on Joshua, the guys box office excitement 99% of the time he fights and has a CV that blows the rest of the pretenders out the water, the only guys he hasn't faced are the ones proven to be ducking

[oogiebe]

LOLOLOLOL!!! That won't stop him.

[Lenny Cravats]

LOLOLOLOL!!! That won't stop him.

No, he's not spilt his seed yet.

[oogiebe]

No, he's not spilt his seed yet.

TRUE!!! You're a sick man!

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Ortiz made much more than 500k to fight wilder. Haymon fighters are paid differently; common knowledge until its convenient to forget

Is that 5mm flat or can he earn the ppv revenue like miller?

[oogiebe]

Ortiz made much more than 500k to fight wilder. Haymon fighters are paid differently; common knowledge until its convenient to forget

Is that 5mm flat or can he earn the ppv revenue like miller?

You're correct. He made close to 2 million when it was all said and done. I don't know the terms of the offer for the AJ fight.

[boxing_rocks]

You're correct. He made close to 2 million when it was all said and done. I don't know the terms of the offer for the AJ fight.

Even if he made 2 million when he was undefeated, why would he not take 5 million now? The only two possibilities: Haymon or being afraid to get caught by VADA.

[Paci]

Even if he made 2 million when he was undefeated, why would he not take 5 million now? The only two possibilities: Haymon or being afraid to get caught by VADA.

Going with that the PBC wouldn't like to lose Ortiz. And 5 million is more then enough to get him over to DAZN for the rest of his career.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Going with that the PBC wouldn't like to lose Ortiz. And 5 million is more then enough to get him over to DAZN for the rest of his career.

Yeh. Knowing Hearn and the way he negotiates, he probably added a clause that his next 2 bouts after this be on DAZN or something. Lol

[Enlightened-One]

You're correct. He made close to 2 million when it was all said and done. I don't know the terms of the offer for the AJ fight.

Ortiz didn't receive $2m for the Deontay Wilder fight. He received more than his $500K guarantee though.

[Enlightened-One]

Yeh. Knowing Hearn and the way he negotiates, he probably added a clause that his next 2 bouts after this be on DAZN or something. Lol

Rematch clause stipulations are normal for B-side fighters to agreed to in order to receive opportunities to face marquee names that are considered as being on the A-side. This wouldn't have explained the reason for Ortiz's excessive $10m purse demand.

[hoffmachine]

It seems pretty clear to me that Ortiz has been juicing and simply cannot face drug testing at the moment. The facts on the ground are that he has in the past stated that he will fight AJ anywhere for almost any amount of money, and that he has been offered $5m for this fight. When you compare that to career high earnings of $0.5m, it seems madness to turn down the fight. Its a great pity though, because it might have been a peach of a fight and it would have been really interesting to see how AJ handled Ortiz as compared to Wilder....effing boxers

[Ruthless-RKO]

Ortiz didn't receive $2m for the Deontay Wilder fight. He received more than his $500K guarantee though.

The ONLY website stating more than $500k, was TMZ, who claim Ortiz would have received between $1m - $1.5m.

They also reported that Wilder would have made up to $5m in that fight too.