Officially GGG is his own boss! 100 M's man!

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At this stage GGG is doing what is best in his interest. His learning from his past mistakes. It's not a doubt that GGG through his talent, hard work and perseverance made some people famous and much richer. I also think at his age the 'mexican style' is very risky for him and he has to focus more on defense. :TU:
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He was never "mexican style" IMO. He has one of best jabs in boxing today and very underrated defense.
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Cent0089 wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 16:15 He was never "mexican style" IMO. He has one of best jabs in boxing today and very underrated defense.
GGG is a boxer-puncher. Probably Sanchez changed his style more to a brawler to appeal the public/media and sell GGG as a central asian fighter with a 'mexican style'. It was a very good strategy but I think GGG felt he was used and probably now especially at his age he feels to be more of a boxer and avoid to get punish/injured, etc.
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GGG vs Eubank Jr would still be a good fight imo. BJS, Andrade and Jermall too. Now it depends on promoters and the tv platforms. :box:
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apollo creed wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 05:55 GGG vs Eubank Jr would still be a good fight imo. BJS, Andrade and Jermall too. Now it depends on promoters and the tv platforms. :box:
Even at his age, GGG beats all of them.
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Whilst waiting patiently for his mega-money third bout against Canelo, GGG will continue to engage in mismatches against opposition from specific geographic locations where DAZN are looking to build a customer base.

GGG Promotions were responsible for staging Golovkin’s disappointing bouts against Vanes Martirosyan and Steve Rolls.

He can continue facing this sort of opposition almost indefinitely, without his reputation being tarnished, due to a combination of his age, DAZN facilitating this approach, coupled his loyal fans believing that he can do no wrong.

Unfortunately I don’t expect Golovkin to face any opposition that are considered genuine threats and don’t provide him with a decent payday. His team have previously articulated their belief that certain opponents weren’t worthy of facing him, because they weren’t big enough names. He’s even vacated a world title to avoid risking losing an opportunity to face Canelo.

He will inevitably use the “risk versus reward” ratio to decide the type of bouts he competes in from now on. The very same business approach that many of his peers were aggressively criticised for using.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 07:01 Whilst waiting patiently for his mega-money third bout against Canelo, GGG will continue to engage in mismatches against opposition from specific geographic locations where DAZN are looking to build a customer base.

GGG Promotions were responsible for staging Golovkin’s disappointing bouts against Vanes Martirosyan and Steve Rolls.

He can continue facing this sort of opposition almost indefinitely, without his reputation being tarnished, due to a combination of his age, DAZN facilitating this approach, coupled his loyal fans believing that he can do no wrong.

Unfortunately I don’t expect Golovkin to face any opposition that are considered genuine threats and don’t provide him with a decent payday.

He will inevitably use the “risk versus reward” ratio to decide the type of bouts he competes in from now on. The very same business approach that many of his peers were aggressively criticised for using.
:TU: A side mentality. The only risky fight I see him taking will be Canelo 3.
And since he won't be the A side there.
That fight won't happen until September 2020
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tiny_acres wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 07:09 :TU: A side mentality. The only risky fight I see him taking will be Canelo 3.
And since he won't be the A side there.
That fight won't happen until September 2020
We know that GGG is facing Steve Rolls next and Canelo at some point, but will he continue facing terribly dire “Vanes Martirosyan” type opposition for the remaining four bouts of his six-fight deal with DAZN?

There are very few big name opponents out there for him to face, with many of those available being reserved for Canelo.

GGG may start receiving criticism and also be accused of ducking if his very next opponent is of a similar calibre to “Steve Rolls”.

I’m sure his fans will passionately defend him though, even if it means they’re resorting to applying double standards.

It’s a tricky situation for Gennady to be in, because engaging in safe business type fights makes financial sense, but it would unfortunately result in him being hypocritical.

I realise that my words wrongly portray myself as being a “hater”, but there really isn’t any justification for GGG Promotions to stage Golovkin’s disappointing bouts against Vanes Martirosyan and Steve Rolls.

And we’re inevitably going to see him engaging in even more mismatches in the near future.
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Loki wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 06:50 Even at his age, GGG beats all of them.
If you look at GGG, he looks about 25- max. 30 y/o.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 07:01 Whilst waiting patiently for his mega-money third bout against Canelo, GGG will continue to engage in mismatches against opposition from specific geographic locations where DAZN are looking to build a customer base.

GGG Promotions were responsible for staging Golovkin’s disappointing bouts against Vanes Martirosyan and Steve Rolls.

He can continue facing this sort of opposition almost indefinitely, without his reputation being tarnished, due to a combination of his age, DAZN facilitating this approach, coupled his loyal fans believing that he can do no wrong.

Unfortunately I don’t expect Golovkin to face any opposition that are considered genuine threats and don’t provide him with a decent payday. His team have previously articulated their belief that certain opponents weren’t worthy of facing him, because they weren’t big enough names. He’s even vacated a world title to avoid risking losing an opportunity to face Canelo.

He will inevitably use the “risk versus reward” ratio to decide the type of bouts he competes in from now on. The very same business approach that many of his peers were aggressively criticised for using.
Tbh GGG has already fought and beat the best in his division. If he chooses to make those big money by fighting guys like 'Steve Rolls' and then cash out vs Canelo in a third fight, it's his choice. Of course that I'd like to see him vs Eubank Jr, Andrade or BJS but if not then it's ok. :TU:
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Enlightened-One wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 07:33 We know that GGG is facing Steve Rolls next and Canelo at some point, but will he continue facing terribly dire “Vanes Martirosyan” type opposition for the remaining four bouts of his six-fight deal with DAZN?

There are very few big name opponents out there for him to face, with many of those available being reserved for Canelo.

GGG may start receiving criticism and also be accused of ducking if his very next opponent is of a similar calibre to “Steve Rolls”.

I’m sure his fans will passionately defend him though, even if it means they’re resorting to applying double standards.

It’s a tricky situation for Gennady to be in, because engaging in safe business type fights makes financial sense, but it would unfortunately result in him being hypocritical.

I realise that my words wrongly portray myself as being a “hater”, but there really isn’t any justification for GGG Promotions to stage Golovkin’s disappointing bouts against Vanes Martirosyan and Steve Rolls.

And we’re inevitably going to see him engaging in even more mismatches in the near future.
Wrongly? Get out of it - you never stop.
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Golovkin better face Jacobs in a rematch of a fight many thought the American was screwed.

If Jacobs somehow hangs with Canelo and isn't embarrassed then it's only right for Golovkin to give him a return go in the late fall.

Otherwise it figures to be one Steve Rolls after another, as Golovkin safely avoids legit competition so as not to endanger a potential Canelo 3 bout.
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I think Steve Rolls is just a shake off the ring rust type of fight for GGG. We don't know for sure that GGG will fight low calibre opponents in all six fights.
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Thomastearns wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 08:52 Wrongly? Get out of it - you never stop.
:lol: EO is just trying to do his ol' ocdc trolling schit/ he cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.
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apollo creed wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 10:50 I think Steve Rolls is just a shake off the ring rust type of fight for GGG. We don't know for sure that GGG will fight low calibre opponents in all six fights.
By the time he enters the ring against Steve Rolls, only eight months would have passed since his bout against Canelo, which means he won't have any "ring rust" to "shake off".

Golovkin having "ring rust" is simply a nonsense claim that you made up!

No one claimed "that GGG will fight low calibre opponents in all six fights", this is another nonsense claim that you made up!

There's no way DAZN would have signed Golovkin if he hadn't committed himself to competing in the Canelo rematch.
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SenorPipino wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 09:55 Golovkin better face Jacobs in a rematch of a fight many thought the American was screwed.

If Jacobs somehow hangs with Canelo and isn't embarrassed then it's only right for Golovkin to give him a return go in the late fall.

Otherwise it figures to be one Steve Rolls after another, as Golovkin safely avoids legit competition so as not to endanger a potential Canelo 3 bout.
Team Golovkin previously claimed that they weren't interested in facing Danny Jacobs again.
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Ggg is making a lot of money to fight a nobody. If someone was going to pay you a shit ton of money to half ass at work you'd take it.

Dazn pisses away money faster than a hooker on crack
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 11:46 Ggg is making a lot of money to fight a nobody. If someone was going to pay you a poo ton of money to half ass at work you'd take it.

Dazn pisses away money faster than a hooker on crack
:OhYes: :OhYes: :OhYes: :OhYes: :OhYes: - this is very true, not sure how much longer DAZN can sustain this, always end up badly this model ask AL!
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Cent0089 wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 16:15 He was never "mexican style" IMO. He has one of best jabs in boxing today and very underrated defense.
Yeah, he never has the mexican style because he is not able to fight like thise.

Mexican style is what Estrada did yesterday, that it's.

The defense of GGG is not bad but has a lot holes, that the reason why Canelo destroyed his face, he took a lot of clean shots of Jacobs, Brook.

But really his resume is pretty weak, he only fought with two elite rivals in Nelo and Jacobs
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Enlightened-One wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 11:35 By the time he enters the ring against Steve Rolls, only eight months would have passed since his bout against Canelo, which means he won't have any "ring rust" to "shake off".

Golovkin having "ring rust" is simply a nonsense claim that you made up!

No one claimed "that GGG will fight low calibre opponents in all six fights", this is another nonsense claim that you made up!

There's no way DAZN would have signed Golovkin if he hadn't committed himself to competing in the Canelo rematch.
LOL :oo
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 11:46 Ggg is making a lot of money to fight a nobody. If someone was going to pay you a poo ton of money to half ass at work you'd take it.

Dazn pisses away money faster than a hooker on crack
:OhYes:
G's hard work and road is paying off for him.
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It’s interesting to see GGG’s supporters celebrate the same opponent choice rules that Golovkin’s big name peers were previously criticised for using.

Apparently employing double-standards is no longer considered as being a bad thing! :o

Who knew? :-?
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As the OP said, I'd like to see GGG box a wee bit more and focus on defence etc... He might need to in the latter stages of his career! That being said, he didn't become so popular by being cautious and boxing! He has definitely lost a few steps. He was poor against Jacobs, should've won the first Canelo fight and arguably the second (I had Canelo in the second narrowly), but he needs a win and to kick on!
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Stuarty wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 20:52 As the OP said, I'd like to see GGG box a wee bit more and focus on defence etc... He might need to in the latter stages of his career! That being said, he didn't become so popular by being cautious and boxing! He has definitely lost a few steps. He was poor against Jacobs, should've won the first Canelo fight and arguably the second (I had Canelo in the second narrowly), but he needs a win and to kick on!
Agree. Being a pressure fighter/initiator is not going to do him favours at his age. Having said that, he did well tactically vs Canelo in that he didn’t trade hooks with the hooker Canelo and went on his jab but I’d say it was a draw Canelo 2.
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Stuarty wrote: 27 Apr 2019, 20:52 As the OP said, I'd like to see GGG box a wee bit more and focus on defence etc... He might need to in the latter stages of his career! That being said, he didn't become so popular by being cautious and boxing! He has definitely lost a few steps. He was poor against Jacobs, should've won the first Canelo fight and arguably the second (I had Canelo in the second narrowly), but he needs a win and to kick on!
Contrary to what some people think I believe that GGG's main ability is his boxing skills. He had to neglect that in the past because he had to appeal the public with the 'mexican style' to gain a big market share. If he goes with a trainer like Buddy McGirt or team Loma, GGG would be able to give us some good performances against good opposition. I agree that in the Jacobs fight, GGG didn't look spectacular but he edged it with that knock down. He tried too hard to T/KO Jacobs and it didn't work. :TU:
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