-Juan Francisco Estrada TOP-5 P4P fighter-

[squiggy]

If you don't follow a certain division, you can just say so. For instance there's clearly someone here who just doesn't follow cruiserweight.

[oogiebe]

If you don't follow a certain division, you can just say so. For instance there's clearly someone here who just doesn't follow cruiserweight.

[KiwiRider]

Top 10.
But I'd rather he fight Nietes than Kal Yafai.

Heck, either one would be great.

Estrada #10 for me too right now. So nice to watch him in action.

[Onetimeonly]

That's a surprise to me, though I really don't know Shiro's opponents well they don't seem to match Estradas resume.

I don't care as much about resume for p4p. Prograis is up there too.

[Counter-puncher]

I don't care as much about resume for p4p. Prograis is up there too.

Gotcha, I'll check some Shiro fights out. Agreed on the eye test Prograis is in the conversation.

[Onetimeonly]

Gotcha, I'll check some Shiro fights out. Agreed on the eye test Prograis is in the conversation.

Just too slippery a slope to judge when wins drop off or hold strong. You'll like ken. He's crisp as hell.

[boxing_rocks]

Nah. People just overrated Wangek.

[Susej_SOG]

Nah. People just overrated Wangek.

A fighter that K.O'd brutally González and dropped him 3 times in two fights is overrated

Lol


GGG could not K.O Jacobs.


And stop with excuses about González being too small, he has the same reach, height and weight than Sor in the ring.

At his 29 years old he could not make 112.

González always had bad defense.

This, and the power of Rungvisai is awesome, Cuadras said this too, Estrada too but Juan has an iron chin, he took the best shots of Viloria, Rungvisai and González (he went down 4 pounds to fight with him), all in prime, never was dropped.


Rungvisai still being a P4P fighter, he is extremely strong, controlls angles, thrown near of 1000 punches in each fight, power in both hands, he is a good body puncher and way better and most dangerous than any rival of the list of Crawford, Usyk, and Loma.

[Susej_SOG]

I don't care as much about resume for p4p. Prograis is up there too.

This is like say "I don't care about what team won more tournaments and cups, this is the best team of the league".

Prograis is not even in a top-15 and never faced a good fighter.

[Onetimeonly]

This is like say "I don't care about what team won more tournaments and cups, this is the best team of the league".

Prograis is not even in a top-15 and never faced a good fighter.

Obviously English isn't your first language. Stick to whatever is when you address me.

[Susej_SOG]

Obviously English isn't your first language. Stick to whatever is when you address me.

Obviously you don't have arguments.

Resume is probably the most important thing if you want to talk about the P4P list.

[Onetimeonly]

Obviously you don't have arguments.

Resume is probably the most important thing if you want to talk about the P4P list.

No me desobedezca de nuevo niño pequeño

[Boxing Prospect]

Just too slippery a slope to judge when wins drop off or hold strong. You'll like ken. He's crisp as hell.

Should be a bit of footage here:
http://www.asianboxing.info/videos/category/ken-shiro

Would suggest everyone watches the Nagamine fight, as well as the bigger name ones (Melindo, juarez, Guevara and Lopez).

[ironbeard]

Nah. People just overrated Wangek.

How could Wangek be overrated? He nearly pulled it out v Estrada. Kid is nails and dynamite.