The only prayer is Bryan. I'd way prefer that in every way.
Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
I'm starting to agree with that. The unknown factor at least.
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
I would suspect that WBA doesn't want both regular and super belts in one man's hands though.
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
LOL! Right.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 12:50 They make those fights, doesn't mean they don't replace the poo one or elevate Charr from regular to interim.
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
This is so tedious. How long will they draw this out? Ortiz I'd be interested; Ruiz I'd watch; the others commonly mentioned I doubt if I'd even look at the fightnews report - "Joshua KO's so and so in 3!" Ho hum who would have guessed. Hey, let him fight Miller drugs or no drugs. That's the one I wanted to see!
Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
I can't see the problem with Ruiz. I'm more unimpressed with his inactivity than his physical condition. He seems to have good endurance and stamina rather like Jarre ... ok perhaps we won't go there. I rate Parker as an elite level heavyweight (somewhere around 5 to 10 in the world). Ruiz showed he was pretty much on Parker's level, some even had him winning on Parker's turf..
Hunter is a trickier fight for AJ, like Povetkin, Hunter could make him look clumsy and awkward until he works Hunter out and settles into a rhythm, but a win over Hunter won't mean as much as beating Ruiz in the eyes of most fans who aren't hardcore.
Also a crushing win over a PBC fighter such as Ruiz, Ortiz or Kownacki gives Wilder one less potential victim and should in theory bring the unification that bit closer. Both these guys need opponents to fight if they are not fighting each other or Fury.
Hunter is a trickier fight for AJ, like Povetkin, Hunter could make him look clumsy and awkward until he works Hunter out and settles into a rhythm, but a win over Hunter won't mean as much as beating Ruiz in the eyes of most fans who aren't hardcore.
Also a crushing win over a PBC fighter such as Ruiz, Ortiz or Kownacki gives Wilder one less potential victim and should in theory bring the unification that bit closer. Both these guys need opponents to fight if they are not fighting each other or Fury.
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
No fans that aren't hardcore have ever heard of Ruiz or hunter. Most in the States wouldn't even know Joshua. Fine to prefer Ruiz, but that part doesn't make sense.
Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
I think Hunter would have made it interesting for a spell. With Ruiz, we would just be waiting for the inevitable beat down.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 13:52 No fans that aren't hardcore have ever heard of Ruiz or hunter. Most in the States wouldn't even know Joshua. Fine to prefer Ruiz, but that part doesn't make sense.
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
I'm only talking about boxing fans: At one extreme you've got the hardcore. At the other you've got the casuals, but there are plenty between these two extremes. I'd qualify as hardcore when it comes to heavyweights but i can't hold a candle to your knowledge in most weight categories, and many on here leave me standing. Ask me about the Bantams I wouldn't have a scooby.
So plenty of people who consider themselves boxing fans but don't frequent forums or take an interest in fighters outside the top ten might well think of Hunter as a cruiserweight and an Usyk victim with no business fighting the likes of AJ. Ruiz they might respect.
So plenty of people who consider themselves boxing fans but don't frequent forums or take an interest in fighters outside the top ten might well think of Hunter as a cruiserweight and an Usyk victim with no business fighting the likes of AJ. Ruiz they might respect.
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
They also might think of hunter as a former Olympian who gave usyk a solid fight and isn't a fat guy that struggled with liakhovich. I don't respect Ruiz, not sure why they would. I don't think either do anything for Josh in anyone's eyes. Just a substitute victim.
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 14:15 They also might think of hunter as a former Olympian who gave usyk a solid fight and isn't a fat guy that struggled with liakhovich. I don't respect Ruiz, not sure why they would. I don't think either do anything for Josh in anyone's eyes. Just a substitute victim.
Ruiz didn't just struggle with (a bored and disinterested) Liakhovich. Liakhovich beat him, but they gave it to Ruiz to please all the Mexican fans in attendance.
Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
Maybe you should change your name to "Charlie Z"...Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 14:25 Ruiz didn't just struggle with (a bored and disinterested) Liakhovich. Liakhovich beat him, but they gave it to Ruiz to please all the Mexican fans in attendance.
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
LOL! He's a train wreck I can't turn away from. The best was watching him get his arse kicked by a 16 year old.Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 14:33 How so? I don't go around sucker punching guys in gyms. I haven't heard about that boy lately. His record must be about 2,000 - 0 by now!
Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
I'd imagine more would remember the WBO Title Challenge against Parker than would remember the Liakhovic fight Ok neither guys are Ortiz, I guess there aren't too many of us who aren't hoping he's the man.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Apr 2019, 14:15 They also might think of hunter as a former Olympian who gave usyk a solid fight and isn't a fat guy that struggled with liakhovich. I don't respect Ruiz, not sure why they would. I don't think either do anything for Josh in anyone's eyes. Just a substitute victim.
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
That he did!!!
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
I particularly remember the Liakhovich fight because I thought that something is wrong with Liak., either mentally, or more likely the mob has their foot on his neck, because of the way he stood there expressionlessly when the robbery decision for Ruiz was announced, and also because of the way he appeared to deliberately lose his won fight against Briggs in the last round.
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Re: Who should be Joshua's next opponent?
Ilya surely you of all people wouldn't be suggesting any kind of skullduggery going on? ![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
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Silly me thinking that there might be something unethical going on in the Wonderful World of Boxing. Next I might suggest that politicians tell little fibs every now and then, even used car dealers! Ha ha silly me!
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