Canelo vs Jacobs May 4th!

[ewenhay]

Big surprise, 'A side' Canelo gets the same judges that gave him GGGs belts last time round. A 3 round start in Vegas? Make it 6, because you have zero chance of edging the close ones. His career is littered with some of the strangest scoring ever seen in boxing. Chance? Human error? Correct judging or something more sinister, you decide.

Adalaide Byrd back in contention? Surely everyone deserves a second chance? Don't they?

Is Saul a drug cheat or was it really dodgy meat? What about those needle marks, acupuncturist got a bit overzealous, what do you think? Have to be careful what with all those Middle Eastern type punishments regularly handed out for PED failures in this life and death sport.

NSAC, good guys working in a challenging geographical location? Or just another Sin City front? Perhaps it's time to take peek at just how these big money Vegas fights are 'financed', if that's the right word.

Oscar and Mauricio, just two lovable rogues trying to make a clean living? I think a little chat with uncle Bob, after a small drink maybe could help answer some of these questions.

Until that great whistleblowing day arrives we just have to hope for a knockout. Unfortunately Danny doesn't seem to have the same power since his bout with the big C.

Oh well, maybe we can hope that Saul will get robbed by the judges this time, the law of averages and all that. And then the end of tribal conflict as world peace follows as obscene disparities in wealth become a thing of the past due to multinationals suddenly increasing the sharing of their profits amongst all their beleaguered employees

Hmm, is it really time for some more Serotonin pills. Silly me.

Any truth in the rumour that the judges have filled in their scorecards already so they can join the the Cinco de Mayo celebrations on the night?

[boxing_rocks]

Any truth in the rumour that the judges have filled in their scorecards already so they can join the the Cinco de Mayo celebrations on the night?

They have their final scores figured out. Just need to decide in real time which random rounds give to Jacobs.

[ironbeard]

I doubt that this is going to the cards.

[SenorPipino]

I doubt that this is going to the cards.

Me too.

Jacobs is a good fighter, but hardly elite.

His "miracle man" backstory has helped elevate his reputation above his actual skills.

If the featherfisted Latin Snake can dump Jacobs, it's frightening to think what effect Canelo's shots will have on him.

No. It ain't going to the cards.

[ironbeard]

All anyone has to do to see how dire this year has been as well as how it looks going forward is to look at the fights so far this year, as well as the schedule going forward. For that matter, look at the thread subjects on here.

We are headed into May. How many memorable fights at elite level have we seen? It has been the year of the mismatch so far, generally.

Gingerhead deserves credit for taking a real challenge, no matter the advantages he enjoys. This is not Spence v Mikey or Bud v Bambi On Ice. This is a real, legit challenge.

Jacobs realizes that this is probably his last chance at full on top of the heap status. He knows he cannot win a decision. I think that he is coming for a shootout, along the lines of the Peter Quillin flash bang.

I doubt that this goes past 7. Jacobs goes out on his shield unless he can hurt Gingerhead early, and grind him into dust. Nothing recently suggests that Danny has that in him.

[ewenhay]

I doubt that this is going to the cards.

I dunno. Jacobs went the full 12 with Golovkin.

Alvarez likes to feast on handpicked British fighters but a lot of his elite fights have gone the distance

[jamamb]

All anyone has to do to see how dire this year has been as well as how it looks going forward is to look at the fights so far this year, as well as the schedule going forward. For that matter, look at the thread subjects on here.

We are headed into May. How many memorable fights at elite level have we seen? It has been the year of the mismatch so far, generally.

Gingerhead deserves credit for taking a real challenge, no matter the advantages he enjoys. This is not Spence v Mikey or Bud v Bambi On Ice. This is a real, legit challenge.

Jacobs realizes that this is probably his last chance at full on top of the heap status. He knows he cannot win a decision. I think that he is coming for a shootout, along the lines of the Peter Quillin flash bang.

I doubt that this goes past 7. Jacobs goes out on his shield unless he can hurt Gingerhead early, and grind him into dust. Nothing recently suggests that Danny has that in him.

was danny in a shootout with quillen from the start, or did he just start unloading once he hurt him

danny just to me seems a cautious mentality fighter, he even fought that way vs guys like caleb truax and luis arias. and of course ggg

[lazboy]

Agree this year has been dire - looking forward to this, finally something exciting. All controversy that surrounds Canelo distracts from his actual in ring ability (imo). He’s that good and has the best hooks in the game (currently). I think he can stop Jacobs.

Im happy to root for Canelo, when the playgrounds seemingly fair and support the Canelo era as he really proved himself in the ggg Canelo 2 fight. At least in boxing we have a proper, skilful and durable fighter as the biggest name rather than a flash in the pan Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey type character.

[candyslim]

I'd love to see Jacobs beat the crap out of Canelo but realistically I don't even see him shading it (on the card of a judge with no affiliation and twenty twenty vision). I hope I'm wrong.

[kbackup408]

I'd love to see Jacobs beat the crap out of Canelo but realistically I don't even see him shading it (on the card of a judge with no affiliation and twenty twenty vision). I hope I'm wrong.

jacobs is a very nice fella, I'm a sucka for a good comeback story - but objectively Canelo is an excellent boxer can see him loosing a couple rounds at the start and then picking up steam

[Thomastearns]

They have their final scores figured out. Just need to decide in real time which random rounds give to Jacobs.

All the while hoping Canelo can stop Jacobs so no one looks too closely at their cards.

Really difficult to see a stoppage either way.

Canelo can't do it if GGG couldn't. He knows fully well he doesn't need to with the judges (and everything else) in his pocket. Totally insulated from reality he still believes he won the first GGG fight!!

On the other hand Jacobs doesn't seem to carry the same power as he did before his illness. Prove me wrong Danny.

For sure some of us may want him to go all out (or on his shield) but do or die efforts are pretty rare in high level boxing nowadays.

Mainly because they tend to fail when two boxers are so closely matched. Besides Canelo is pretty skilful in defence and counter attack - as is Jacobs.

[ironbeard]

I do not get those of you who are rationalizing that Gingerhead cannot stop Jacobs because 3G could not do it. Alvarez is significantly quicker, both with his power shots and with his feet. He is also a better body puncher than 3G.

3G absolutely earned a W in the first Gingerhead battle, imo, but he left the second fight too close, the Mexican had improved while 3G had not, and quite possibly had slightly deteriorated.

3G could not match Jacobs’ speed / quickness when they met. He won deservedly but it was pretty much by the strength of the fourth round KD, imo.

Jacobs must know that he has very, very little chance of getting the decision. He certainly can not afford a KD along the way. His only chance for a decision is to hurt Gingerhead early and pile up rounds. But even then it is not likely that he gets the nod.

I think that Jacobs goes for early damage and attempts to grind the Mexican down to a late stoppage. The odds are low that he can accomplish that, also, but it is DJ’s only real path to a W, although it quite possibly lead to his own demise.

[Onetimeonly]

I like canelo convincingly here. Jacobs hasn't looked good since GGG and the most surprising thing about GGG/canelo for me was Alvarez was so much more fast twitch and his shots were largely more damaging. Opie tko9.

[SenorPipino]

Don't know why Canelo can't stop him.

Has Jacobs ever displayed an iron jaw?He's been down, knocked out. Even decked by featherfisted Mora.

So Canelo can't turn the trick? Rubbish.

Canelo is far more aggressive than he once was. The guy is now total confidence 24/7.

He takes it to his opponents now, whereas earlier he was only cautiously aggressive.

Ask Golovkin. Ask Fielding. Canelo is on a mission.

He will overwhelm Jacobs, punish him and knock him out.

How Canelo once fought is irrelevant to his style today. What Golovkin did or could not do with Jacobs is also irrelevant.

Canelo made it very clear over 24 rounds that he's a far more adaptable boxer than Golovkin. He's multi-talented. Not one dimensional.

What Golovkin can't do, Canelo can.

Jacobs will learn that Saturday. It should be a beat down.

[boxing_rocks]

Don't know why Canelo can't stop him.

Has Jacobs ever displayed an iron jaw?He's been down, knocked out. Even decked by featherfisted Mora.

So Canelo can't turn the trick? Rubbish.

Canelo is far more aggressive than he once was. The guy is now total confidence 24/7.

He takes it to his opponents now, whereas earlier he was only cautiously aggressive.

Ask Golovkin. Ask Fielding. Canelo is on a mission.

He will overwhelm Jacobs, punish him and knock him out.

How Canelo once fought is irrelevant to his style today. What Golovkin did or could not do with Jacobs is also irrelevant.

Canelo made it very clear over 24 rounds that he's a far more adaptable boxer than Golovkin. He's multi-talented. Not one dimensional.

What Golovkin can't do, Canelo can.

Jacobs will learn that Saturday. It should be a beat down.

Jacobs can do Lara on him. Just punch back harder.

[cfang]

Canelo to win this via stoppage. He's super confident right now and in his prime.

[ironbeard]

was danny in a shootout with quillen from the start, or did he just start unloading once he hurt him

danny just to me seems a cautious mentality fighter, he even fought that way vs guys like caleb truax and luis arias. and of course ggg

You are correct, upon reviewing the fight, DJ did not unload until he caught Quillin with the flush right hand that buckled his knees. It was obvious from the opening bell that he was cocked and ready to land that shot. He saw an opening on tape, imo.

Your description of DJ as a “cautious mentality fighter,” I call an excellent professional boxer, with a very high KO %. What he managed after being floored by 3G was tremendous, albeit in defeat.

DJ has the tools to out box Gingerhead, but that will not get him the W. He has to hurt him and grind him down. That puts him in the position of getting caught and stopped, or just dropped and losing big on the cards.

I will be rooting for DJ, but his path to victory here is extremely narrow and perilous.

[gilgamesh]

Canelo to win this via stoppage. He's super confident right now and in his prime.

I don't know if he'll stop him (wouldn't shock me), but I do expect he'll win controversy free here.

[Onekrazyrican]

I would not bet a dime on this fight. I would be very surprised to see a KO. Jacobs has that loss to Pirog and KD against feather fisted Mora but then he had that fight with G.

Then we have the politics. You would think its impossible Canelo will lose a close decision based on his history but heres the thing. Hes got the same three judges he had for the GGG rematch. That was a close fight that could have gone either way but people went nuts claiming robbery. What are the chances these judges wont be thinking of the scrutiny while judging close rounds?

Will Jacobs get a benefit from any of these judges having a chip on their shoulder?

[Thomastearns]

You are correct, upon reviewing the fight, DJ did not unload until he caught Quillin with the flush right hand that buckled his knees. It was obvious from the opening bell that he was cocked and ready to land that shot. He saw an opening on tape, imo.

Your description of DJ as a “cautious mentality fighter,” I call an excellent professional boxer, with a very high KO %. What he managed after being floored by 3G was tremendous, albeit in defeat.

DJ has the tools to out box Gingerhead, but that will not get him the W. He has to hurt him and grind him down. That puts him in the position of getting caught and stopped, or just dropped and losing big on the cards.

I will be rooting for DJ, but his path to victory here is extremely narrow and perilous.

Yes, one more miracle needed. C'mon Danny!

[siablo14]

Canelo by robbery

That's what i am thinking. Judges got Canelo's back. That's why he isnt afraid to take challenging fights.

[Impractical Poster]

Me too.

Jacobs is a good fighter, but hardly elite.

His "miracle man" backstory has helped elevate his reputation above his actual skills.

If the featherfisted Latin Snake can dump Jacobs, it's frightening to think what effect Canelo's shots will have on him.

No. It ain't going to the cards.

GGG wasn't able to stop him...

[greg]

..it seems like the Meat-eater has been on the rise whereas Jacobs was not that impressive in his last two fights...hope both will be clean and Jacobs will not be resorting to his legal tricks with weight..

[SenorPipino]

GGG wasn't able to stop him...

So what? Golovkin's vaunted power mysteriously disappears when he's forced to face a higher level of talent.

All that "monster power" turns to myth.

Canelo is a much more multi-dimensional fighter than Golovkin. He'll show Jacobs looks that he never had to worry about with Golovkin.

After a few rounds, Jacobs pretty much knew what to expect from Golovkin. Been there, done that.

He won't ever be certain what to expect from the constantly adapting Canelo.

And that's when Jacobs will be most vulnerable to a knockout.

Knockout aren't necessarily the private domain of the harder hitter. It's the fighter with the bigger tool box who finds the greatest success.

[oogiebe]

So what? Golovkin's vaunted power mysteriously disappears when he's forced to face a higher level of talent.

All that "monster power" turns to myth.

Canelo is a much more multi-dimensional fighter than Golovkin. He'll show Jacobs looks that he never had to worry about with Golovkin.

After a few rounds, Jacobs pretty much knew what to expect from Golovkin. Been there, done that.

He won't ever be certain what to expect from the constantly adapting Canelo.

And that's when Jacobs will be most vulnerable to a knockout.

Knockout aren't necessarily the private domain of the harder hitter. It's the fighter with the bigger tool box who finds the greatest success.

Even Julian Jackson had decision wins. Not a great argument IMHO.