UKAD NOT RELEASING TUE's THAT ANTHONY JOSHUA MAY HAVE

[leejonesjnr]

A sanctioning body has the right, so all but the WBC.

Miller doesn't have a license with anyone, therefor it can't be taken away.
Sanctioning bodies can't ban a boxer, they can just refuse to allow them to compete for their titles.

[oogiebe]

Miller doesn't have a license with anyone, therefor it can't be taken away.
Sanctioning bodies can't ban a boxer, they can just refuse to allow them to compete for their titles.

Licenses are through the State. The orgs all (except the WBC) sanctioned this event. He could be banned from all sanctioned events for a period of time. They have that jurisdiction.

[leejonesjnr]

Licenses are through the State. The orgs all (except the WBC) sanctioned this event. He could be banned from all sanctioned events for a period of time. They have that jurisdiction.

The event didn't take place, it wasn't sanctioned by anyone.
As already said, organisations can refuse to allow him to box for their titles but they can't ban him from boxing.
It will all depend on how much Miller wants to box, how soon and how much hassle he is willing to put up with. Undoubtedly he will be able to box somewhere if he really wants to.

[oogiebe]

The event didn't take place, it wasn't sanctioned by anyone.
As already said, organisations can refuse to allow him to box for their titles but they can't ban him from boxing.
It will all depend on how much Miller wants to box, how soon and how much hassle he is willing to put up with. Undoubtedly he will be able to box somewhere if he really wants to.

The event was signed into and was sanctioned by several sanctioning bodies. They have the right to ban him from their sanctioned events, and of course drop him from the rankings. The state of new York can't do anything but refuse him a license as he never got one. But with reciprocity, most states will honor that. That is my understanding. It all doesn't matter anyway, because as soon as some time goes by, he'll fight again. I was wondering if the BBBoC was going to take any action.

[leejonesjnr]

The event was signed into and was sanctioned by several sanctioning bodies. They have the right to ban him from their sanctioned events, and of course drop him from the rankings. The state of new York can't do anything but refuse him a license as he never got one. But with reciprocity, most states will honor that. That is my understanding. It all doesn't matter anyway, because as soon as some time goes by, he'll fight again. I was wondering if the BBBoC was going to take any action.

Organisations don't sanction events, they sanction individual contests. Again, as I have already said they can refuse to allow him to compete for their titles but they have no power at all to ban him from boxing.
I believe that he would get a license to box in the USA if he really wanted to, Mississippi or somewhere similar perhaps and then there is always Native American land.
What action do you think the BBBoC could take? They have no involvement in the situation.

[oogiebe]

Organisations don't sanction events, they sanction individual contests. Again, as I have already said they can refuse to allow him to compete for their titles but they have no power at all to ban him from boxing.
I believe that he would get a license to box in the USA if he really wanted to, Mississippi or somewhere similar perhaps and then there is always Native American land.
What action do you think the BBBoC could take? They have no involvement in the situation.

Yes a sanctioned event is a title fight. Like the WBC had stipulations with Ortiz when he was first supposed to fight Wilder. Here's an article that shows the complexity in these situations and especially with Miller as he had no license. He needed to pass drug test as he had failed a test earlier. He failed again and he was removed from the fight in favor of Stiverne. So yes, an actual 'banishment' is near impossible.

[leejonesjnr]

Yes a sanctioned event is a title fight. Like the WBC had stipulations with Ortiz when he was first supposed to fight Wilder. Here's an article that shows the complexity in these situations and especially with Miller as he had no license. He needed to pass drug test as he had failed a test earlier. He failed again and he was removed from the fight in favor of Stiverne. So yes, an actual 'banishment' is near impossible.

Fq me. I can't be bothered repeating myself endlessly, I agree with whatever nonsense you say, a boxing show is 12 individual events or whatever.

[oogiebe]

Fq me. I can't be bothered repeating myself endlessly, I agree with whatever nonsense you say, a boxing show is 12 individual events or whatever.

Dude relax. When I say a sanctioning "event" I'm referring to a single title fight. Not the entire card. Sheesh!

[Onetimeonly]

Licenses are through the State. The orgs all (except the WBC) sanctioned this event. He could be banned from all sanctioned events for a period of time. They have that jurisdiction.

The wbc requires mandatory random testing. You'd think they would take him out if he was ranked.

[oogiebe]

The wbc requires mandatory random testing. You'd think they would take him out if he was ranked.

It's interesting to see no action taken. Vada ya think of that?

[Onetimeonly]

It's interesting to see no action taken. Vada ya think of that?

I don't recall hearings happening thus quickly for anyone.

[oogiebe]

I don't recall hearings happening thus quickly for anyone.

In light of the WBA's quick response of taking him out of their rankings, I'd have expected same or similar action at least from the WBO and IBF especially considering they were sanctioning the bout.

[Onetimeonly]

In light of the WBA's quick response of taking him out of their rankings, I'd have expected same or similar action at least from the WBO and IBF especially considering they were sanctioning the bout.

I don't look at rankings anymore. Have they published new ones since it happened?

[oogiebe]

I don't look at rankings anymore. Have they published new ones since it happened?

Yeah, I had a thread in CS just the other day. WBA. Haven't seen any others.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=230196&p=5148280&h ... s#p5148280

[Onetimeonly]

Yeah, I had a thread in CS just the other day. WBA. Haven't seen any others.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=230196&p=5148280&h ... s#p5148280

Weren't they the ones that ranked a dead guy?

[oogiebe]

Weren't they the ones that ranked a dead guy?

No,, that was the WBO. Darrin Morris.

[kbackup408]

These alphabet sanctioning bodies are all mercenaries purely motivated by personal gain just want their belt hoisted (and get collect the sanctioning fees)

I wonder does a fighter like Canelo pay any sanctioning fees he doesn't need a belt to prove he is a player at MW

[Onetimeonly]

These alphabet sanctioning bodies are all mercenaries purely motivated by personal gain just want their belt hoisted (and get collect the sanctioning fees)

I wonder does a fighter like Canelo pay any sanctioning fees he doesn't need a belt to prove he is a player at MW

Yes he does. All of them do,